Informing all escorts of a scam in florida!

[Michael Wayne]

A guy who calls himself, "Josh," and says he is 27 is setting up hotel appointments and then not opening the door. He sends pics of a hot guy (may or may not be him-who knows?) and sets up the date using the cell # xxx-xxx-xxxx. Call seems legit and the info checks out. The hotel room is occupied but door not opened when i knocked 3 times over 20 minutes. Drove 40 minutes to see him last night. He then did not answer phone (mailbox full) nor does he return texts. Fortunately for me I got a 2 hour session at the Ritz close to him so it did not impact my night other than to piss me off a little at first. I used to get this game all the time when I lived on florida's east coast but have not encountered it in a while. Just wanted to alert everyone in florida or anywhere in the nation about this little asshole.

 

For the record: DISCRETION DOES NOT APPLY TO PRE-MEDITATED SCAM ARTISTS. If you are reading this your name and number will be published so no one else will fall victim to your juvenile games..

 

My best guess is that this is a new little competitor trying to fuck with my schedule but i HAVE no way of confirming that. The funny thing is that I will help my competition if they will just ASK. http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1 "I am Not about the clock, I am about the COCK!"

[jankeedaddy]

Dear Mikey,

 

I got interested in googling his number; he seems to have a history of "fun" scams.

 

He may be >>> xxxxx

 

Others have had your problem http://mrnumber.com/1-802-535?page=5

 

xxxx

[Guest JackF]

Wow, I have yet to experience anything from this clown but thanks for making us all aware, Mikey!

[bigvalboy]

Wow, I have yet to experience anything from this clown but thanks for making us all aware, Mikey!

 

As an escort, is there any concrete way of protecting yourself from these sort of scams..ie: did you google his name and phone # in advance of the trip?

[jjkrkwood]

Dear Mikey,

Daddy Sez: Please don't quote private information.

 

The more burning question is if "he is Horse Hung" ???

[Guest JackF]

You can google some phone numbers but sometimes you won't get any direct results from the search. It is possible, but as jankeedaddy mentioned above, he has had issues with this same guy in the past. Too bad it isn't as easy to figure out as those email scams about overseas trips complete with bank account numbers and fraud type stuff. Those are ridiculous and quite prevalent.

[Michael Wayne]

so, Daddy, with all due respect, are we just supposed to fall victim to these scam artists with no recourse at all.? This guy Josh is psychotic. Isn't one of the valuable purposes of the forum to protect the members? I am just asking the question. I respect your rules since it is your forum and I will abide by them, of course. I am just wondering how to inform others of this type of thing to protect them because he is obviously doing this to dozens of other guys. If he cannot be exposed for the fraud he is in public then this type of psychotic behavior will continue. I have been in business a long time and I, more than almost anyone in America, understand the true meaning of the word, "Discretion," and it does not apply in this case. Assholes like this need to be outed for the whole world to see. What is Joshes next progression? to physically hurt, capture or kill a rentboy. This is called psychotic progression and I studied it at grad school. Obviously I cannot use this forum to inform the public of this dangerous person so I will use my own ways and means. If any escorts need to talk about this asshole or others like him just pm me and we will talk. Mikey

[josephga]

I feel for you. I have a guy that's contacted me over 30 times in the last 11 months. Emails me through the contact form requesting massage. he always does it past working hours. requesting services I don't offer. Last night asking for a 2hr massage emailing me 2 hrs after my final session for the day. I've told him over and over that email is to check for availability & that all appointment's are finalized on the phone & then and only then will I provide my address. And moments later phone rings I look it says unknown So I don't answer. He has even emailed me fake numbers that belong to other people. He says he is uncomfortable giving out his number. I don't care no provider in their right mind takes clients that wont provide a contact number. I have even told him to move on & that I don't want his business. I can't block his email since he emails me through the contact form at massage m4m unless I block the contact form all together. Some individuals do not understand the difference between Discretion and anonymous. I do not take nor want anonymous clients

[Guest JackF]

I feel for you. I have a guy that's contacted me over 30 times in the last 11 months. Emails me through the contact form requesting massage. he always does it past working hours. requesting services I don't offer. Last night asking for a 2hr massage emailing me 2 hrs after my final session for the day. I've told him over and over that email is to check for availability & that all appointment's are finalized on the phone & then and only then will I provide my address. And moments later phone rings I look it says unknown So I don't answer. He has even emailed me fake numbers that belong to other people. He says he is uncomfortable giving out his number. I don't care no provider in their right mind takes clients that wont provide a contact number. I have even told him to move on & that I don't want his business. I can't block his email since he emails me through the contact form at massage m4m unless I block the contact form all together. Some individuals do not understand the difference between Discretion and anonymous. I do not take nor want anonymous clients

 

 

I agree with you on this one, both in the escort & massage side of things. It's ridiculous, but they need to see both sides of the spectrum - our's and their's. I refuse to take those people or meet them, ever. It's sketchy and not appropriate. I get those type of folks all the time.

[josephga]

Number 1 reason they say they can't risk me having their number is because they are married. In my circumstances it's a little different. I've asked over 20 female friends and associates since 1998 what would their reaction be if they found out their husband bought a massage? In all cases I got the same answer. They said if a women was the massage therapist they would be upset or suspicious. But if the massage therapist was male the thought of something going on would never enter their minds.. imo It's just uncalled for Paranoia.

[Guest JackF]

Very true, josephga, although there probably are a few women that would find it odd that a guy would get a massage from another guy in his home. Or maybe if they knew "how" they had found you, there may be a few issues that arise, haha. But I completely agree with your opinion - if it was a female, it would certainly raise more questions!

[Guest joeburger]

mike,

 

sorry this happened to you. if this is a new competitor then he is playing dirty. wish i could help but am up here frozen in the NE.

 

joeburger

[Michael Wayne]

I believe I can legally post this: Josh (very cute) from area code 802 sets up hotel appointments and makes you drive 40 minutes and then does not open the door. Do not fall victim to this predator!!! Many fellow escorts have contacted me about this. We have to stand up for ourselves because no one else will

[josephga]

I believe I can legally post this: Josh (very cute) from area code 802 sets up hotel appointments and makes you drive 40 minutes and then does not open the door. Do not fall victim to this predator!!! Many fellow escorts have contacted me about this. We have to stand up for ourselves because no one else will

 

I don't get why you can't post his contact info. if you pulled this type of shit as a provider your contact info would be posted everywhere and everyone would want to burn you at the stake

[seeker630]

I don't get why you can't post his contact info. if you pulled this type of shit as a provider your contact info would be posted everywhere and everyone would want to burn you at the stake

 

Maybe because of the potential for abuse. What's to stop stop a pissed-off escort from 'outing' a client with whom he has had a disagreement? (And please note - I am NOT doubting Mikey but I think it has to an 'everyone or no one' rule. There's generally no way to verify most of what is said here.)

 

I believe it's also not allowed to post an escort's real name and private information.

[+ deej]

Mama Rose in "Gypsy" said "either you got it or you ain't".

 

She was talking about talent. Here it applies to discretion.

 

It isn't something you can conditionally decide. It isn't something that applies only on Mondays or only when it's convenient, or something that can be waived if you're really pissed off. It appies or it doesn't. Here, it applies.

[Michael Wayne]

so deej . If this guy criminally assaulted one of us or held us hostage or killed us then the policy of this forum would still be to not post the assholes' private info.? Is that the policy? Guys who do this shit ESCALATE and the only way to stop it is to EXPOSE them! Seems like you are protecting guys who harrass escorts. That, my friend, is not discretion. Nothing personal here just a difference of opinion and it is not just me. 12 escorts have contacted me about this guy. So are we just going to let it happen? Certain policies might ought to be rethought and it seems to be the overwhelming opinion of the members that we should rethink this one. However, Mikey is well aware that this is a benevolent DICTATORSHIP and I will submit to the rules, of course. Fact is that JOSH did not hurt me in any way and I am not pissed off. I got a 2 hr. appointment witha better client that night after he pulled the shit. I am not mad. My point is that if JOSH would doo this then what is to stop him from going to the next level and really trying to hurt one of us. You don't see it in the gay world as much but in the straight world female escorts are killed all the time. My point tis that this JOsh boy is psychotivc and in a criminal way. I have a Doctorate degree and while my major was theology (lol, right?) my minor is in psychology with a specialty in crininal psych. My educated opinion is that this boy (man, 27 yo) is DANGEROUS which is why I reported him. There is no criminal charge to go to the authorities with (obviously) but since many of my leading colleauges are traveling and touring down here this month I thought it was my obligation to report him.

[tom1980]

so deej . If this guy criminally assaulted one of us or held us hostage or killed us then the policy of this forum would still be to not post the assholes' private info.? Is that the policy? Guys who do this shit ESCALATE and the only way to stop it is to EXPOSE them! Seems like you are protecting guys who harrass escorts. That, my friend, is not discretion. Nothing personal here just a difference of opinion and it is not just me. 12 escorts have contacted me about this guy. So are we just going to let it happen? Certain policies might ought to be rethought and it seems to be the overwhelming opinion of the members that we should rethink this one. However, Mikey is well aware that this is a benevolent DICTATORSHIP and I will submit to the rules, of course. Fact is that JOSH did not hurt me in any way and I am not pissed off. I got a 2 hr. appointment witha better client that night after he pulled the shit. I am not mad. My point is that if JOSH would doo this then what is to stop him from going to the next level and really trying to hurt one of us. You don't see it in the gay world as much but in the straight world female escorts are killed all the time. My point tis that this JOsh boy is psychotivc and in a criminal way. I have a Doctorate degree and while my major was theology (lol, right?) my minor is in psychology with a specialty in crininal psych. My educated opinion is that this boy (man, 27 yo) is DANGEROUS which is why I reported him. There is no criminal charge to go to the authorities with (obviously) but since many of my leading colleauges are traveling and touring down here this month I thought it was my obligation to report him.

 

No doubt this guy is an asshole but aren't you reaching a little bit Mikey? From your posts it appears that a guy called you up to schedule an appointment and then stood you up. Even if we assume he was in the room while you knocked on the door and was ignoring you, there's no evidence that the guy is violent. Maybe he's an asshole competitor trying to keep you busy in the hopes that your clients will call him, maybe he got cold feet and decided he couldn't go through with the meeting, or maybe he's just an asshole who takes pleasure in inconveniencing escorts. But assuming he's a psycho killer in training seems like a huge leap. Sure all psycho killers are aasholes, but not all assholes are psycho killers. As for the discretion policy, I was glad to see the admin responses. I've had to cancel appointments a couple of times because I have a very unpredictable job/boss. And much as I try to work things out amicably with the escort or masseur affected that's not always possible. I'd hate to think that my name, email address, and phone number would be published for all to see just because someone got pisses off at me. Now I'm not defending the guy or what he did to you, but I'd rather have a policy that says nothing gets published than one that makes exceptions based on public opinion surrounding a given incident. As for your question about publishing the info if someone gets killed, I'm sure there would be news articles that could be linked to in a post that would provide adequate info on any suspect and that we'd be free to write about such public information here.

[jankeedaddy]

Dear Mikey et alia,

 

It seems pretty clear that Daddy's policy is to keep phone numbers and other personal information off the forum.

 

However, there is (not surprisingly) a web site designed exactly to publish escort grievances:

 

http://blacklistednow.blogspot.com/ and their title says it all: DON'T FUCK WITH US

 

See if this can fix your problem. Good luck.

[Michael Wayne]

Hey Tom. I appreciate your attitude and response. Point is HE DID NOT CANCEL. Cancellations are a huge problem in the biz now and we are seeing a doubling nationally of the cancellation rate. This has been addressed in other recent threads. To be clear: canceling is never a reason to expose a client (God forbid!!!) DISCRETION is the prime directive in this biz. This asshole did not BOTHER to cancel and STILL will not speak to me. He had no intention of doing the call and pulled a total SCAM. Your saying that me guessing he might go violent is a stretch----that is true. But, on the other hand, he might???? He fits the profile.....Remember how hot Ted Bundy was? This kid is smokin hot. He is a pathological LIAR and a psycho. Now, for the fourth time in this thread let me clarify: I am not mad or pissed off. Can I be more clear? Nor am I challenging the rules here. I submit and I AM ONE OF THE MOST DISCREET GUYS IN AMERICA! ASK ANY OF MY CLIENTS. I am just worried that this kid might hurt one of us and it is my opinion that the forum should defend and protect its members-not scam artists like JOSH from area code 802

[Michael Wayne]

the blacklisted site

 

I checked it out. It seems like a very negative and vindictive site which is not my purpose here. Also I don't think anyone really knows about it so how useful can it be? I tried to publish the info on DADDYS cause everyone knows about this site. DADDYS site is reputable, honest and trustworthy! Reading the blacklisted site for 10 minutes gave me a very negative view of the biz and reminded me of all the idiots and assholes I have dealt with over the years. Fact is for every one asshole there are 25 or 30 GOOD clients! So I have decided to back off and again see discretion from Daddys' viewpoint. I am old school on discretion like I don't even like to call a client even if they are single . To me that seems more like hustling than escorting???? But the young guys do it ALL THE TIME to rustle up biz and some clients LOVE to be called. When I see a client in public I go the other way. I never speak! So a client calls me the other day and asked why I was rude and avoiding him. I told him it was just the opposite and that I was being DISCREET and protecting him! He thanked me! Perhaps we need a new thread called "THE DEFINITION OF DISCRETION"

[jankeedaddy]

Since Daddy's policy is to keep phone numbers and other personal information off the forum, "blacklisted" is the gay escorts' alternative. I didn't necessarily think it was for you, and I agree with your stated policy of discretion. I would certainly hate to see my phone # on blacklisted. But it is there for the truly irritated escort. I guess that the web has "something for everybody" and it wouldn't be there if every client was the picture of probity.

 

http://blacklistednow.blogspot.com/ and their title says it all: DON'T FUCK WITH US

[Kevin Slater]

Cancellations are a huge problem in the biz now and we are seeing a doubling nationally of the cancellation rate.

 

Huh? This stat is compiled somewhere? Does it get released the same day as the beige book?

 

Kevin Slater

[Michael Wayne]

Kevin. It is the case in my biz and with several guys I have spoken too in the last week. Certainly it is not compiled or scientific and I am sure in the case of a successful long term guy in a major market with alot of regulars it would be less of a problem. I am building a new business in a new market so cancellations are more of a problem. They almost never happened to me in New Orleans. I mean one or two a month but now I am dealing with 3 or 4 a week at the LAST minute with no notice if they bother to call at all.