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[DavidGartner]

I dunno boys, I mean I fluctuate it seems on price.. like 120 for JUST a massage 160 for massage with anything but penetration, 200 I will top and 260 will bottom (altho im thinkin of changin that to 300) what do u think is a reasonable price etc? I know im on the higher end of prices but I would like to know if i should have a flat rate etc? or maybe charge more and stay longer so its more money?

[Cooper]

>I dunno boys... what do u think is a

>reasonable price etc? I know im on the higher end of prices

>but I would like to know if i should have a flat rate etc?

 

Hey "Stud Mistre David Gartner"

 

First off, you are a great looking guy and probably have a long list of steady clients. Keep these guys happy and you'll continue to see their generosity grow.

 

As for what I pay in NYC: For a massage, the rage is 100 and up. Yes, it all depends on the type of massage and what additional services they provide...For a "full service" appointment I pay $200. Top or bottom, the same price. What changes is the amount of my tip. It can range from 10-50%. It all depends on my mood and how good the service was.

 

Hope this helps... :-)

[Guest TomSans]

http://www.tomsans.net

 

Most guys in Dallas say they get irritated if it's going to be extra for more interaction. I think most escorts here charge a flat rate. Guys in NY tell me they have a flat rate to just show up and then more money for each additional thing that they might do. I guess it all depends on who your are (if your a porn star) and what you agree on. But is it more typical to charge addition fees in other cities? And, what cities are they? I might want to go there.

[+ deej]

Obviously, your pricing is up to you and you should charge what the market will bear.

 

Having said that, a "sliding scale" often puts people off. (It certainly does with me.) Nobody wants to need a calculator at the end of an encounter to tally up the charges like you're shopping at Ralph's.

 

Set a rate and be done with it.

 

Also, you might want to take a look at the guys in your market (LA, right?). $300 is on the high end. Actually, $300 is on the high end in *any* market. If you can get it, that's great for you! But remember that in LA you're competing with a bevvy of pornstars who also typically charge $300.

[Guest Hole_4_Hire]

I'm with Deej on this one. It's been my experience that clients really don't like anything other than a flat rate. Plus, in my opinion, it only adds to the image that escorts are out to rip-off or gouge the client.

 

However, many escorts can justify higher rates with added time (such as $300 for 90 minutes). Others also require a 2 hour minimum. I think this would be preferable to a sliding fee based on a specific menu of options.

 

In my particular case, would it be fair for me to charge clients a sliding scale based on their size? For example, $150/hr for 6" or less, $200/hr for 6-1/4" to 8", and $250/hr for anything over 8". :+

[guyinsf]

Perhaps prices are lower in San Francisco but I think that $120 for "just a massage" is high. I am assuming that by this you mean a massage with nothing sexual going on, including release (since you have a rate of $160 for massage without penetration). I think that even well trained CMT's do not charge $120 here, and your website doesn't indicate that you have massage training.

 

Perhaps I'm just "lucky," but I have found guys (and very good looking guys, I might add) willing to do massage with release (and sometimes oral) for $80-$120. I was even fortunate enough to discover someone recently whose massage rate is $90 but who only charged me $30 extra to fuck me (negotiated when he was playing with my butt and I was stroking his cock). No, I didn't submit a review, but the next time I see him I will ask him if he'd like to be reviewed here. This latter guy is very handsome and buffed and has made some porn films for one of the major studios (though I think only a couple, so he certainly isn't a "star").

 

Hey, this reminds me of a thread from not that long ago in which I opined that higher rates do not necessarily equate with a better experience. I recently hired someone at $250 per hour (when I made the commitment I thought his rate was $200, which is generally the most I will pay for an hour). The guy has many good reviews and has done a fair amount of porn. Unfortunately the chemistry just wasn't there for me when he showed up.

[Guest Bitchboy]

>I dunno boys, I mean I fluctuate it seems on price.. like

>120 for JUST a massage 160 for massage with anything but

>penetration, 200 I will top and 260 will bottom (altho im

>thinkin of changin that to 300) what do u think is a

>reasonable price etc? I know im on the higher end of prices

>but I would like to know if i should have a flat rate etc?

>or maybe charge more and stay longer so its more money?

 

You're gorgeous and I assume you know it. But stuff like fluctuating rates is exactly why going the boyfriend route is the most desirable way for me. When it starts feeling like the SAT's to figure out the cost, I think the bloom is definitely off the rose. Shouldn't there be a tiny bit of romanticism in the whole affair?

[Rick Munroe]

>Shouldn't there be a tiny bit of

>romanticism in the whole affair?

 

I agree. Talking about certain rates for certain activities makes it all kind of crass & ugly. Some guys over-romanticise & fall for their escorts, it's true, but there can be a happy medium.

[Guest Kenny021]

I don't care what you look like or where you live. A "straight" massage by a skilled masseur is in the vicinity of $65. With release, can go as high as $125. NO MORE. For escort work, one fee for WHATEVER. If you decide to go a la carte, then you'll loose business and probably will end up with a bad review from someone who screwed it up and didn't get what he thought he was going to get.

[Guest jwraustin]

Your prices can and will lead you to a lot of confusion. I agree with the other posts...you need to set a flat rate and stick to it. People pay you for your time and if that just includes a massage or a full blown fuck, you should stick to it. If there is something that you dont really want to do, then just dont do it. It gets confusing to have your rates all over the place, and shows a lack of experience on your part. Now, if you are a real massage therapist, then there should be no problem with the tiered pricing.

 

What you charge is your business, but I do agree $300 is a bit on the high side for any escort.

 

Like a dear friend, who was an escort when I started out, once told me "Honey, you aren't a la carte."

 

Jon Dean

http://www.manfuck.net

[Guest jeffOH]

I think it's kind of tacky to have all those different rates. Why not just one rate for incall and one for outcall? It has worked quite well for me for 11 years. I've hired several escorts myself over the years and I've found those escorts who charge a la carte are often hustlers. I wouldn't hire someone who charges the way you do.

 

JEFF

[email protected]

[bluenix]

>I dunno boys, I mean I fluctuate it seems on price.. like

>120 for JUST a massage 160 for massage with anything but

>penetration, 200 I will top and 260 will bottom (altho im

>thinkin of changin that to 300) what do u think is a

>reasonable price etc?

 

 

Only monopolies successfully engage in this kind of pricing artifice. Do you have a monopoly, sir?

[DavidGartner]

well the many porn stars in LA, are NOT all that hot, and they are usually full of themselves for god knows why.. "yay mommy look at me im a porn star.. i do boys up the ass" PLEASEEE they need to get a grip, and hell any young twink whether deformed or not can be in porn. lol so fer sure i think its based more on personality/reviews and physical appearance thanks for listenin

[DavidGartner]

yea but I cater to lets say i charge 260 flat rate for everything.. well thats what i coudl charge.. OR i could cater to people who cant afford the highest rate and just do less with them

[DavidGartner]

Sure I do have a flat rate WHEN people actually call me from m4m casue it already advertises the price.. and well they cant negotiate really as they had been prepared to what it would be.. but when im on a chat room its alot harder. for one of my clients he gives me 250 and we have oral fun ofr an hour, than he treats me out to the best restaurants and we talk and talk and hes soo fun. and it usually ends up beinf 3 hrs.. but hey i cant pass up goood food yum yum and lord knows i need to eat as people keep tellin me lol. so basically i have the flucutating prices for people in chat rooms to negotiate with them

[DavidGartner]

Trying to gain a monopoly in this business.. ive never really thought about it that way.. but hey dont u think it would do me best.. say some dude who really doesnt ahve enough money only has 160 and can get alot of other escorts but cant afford my rate of 250.. we can still have hella fun for 160 AND i have just re-directed his business to me

[bluenix]

>Trying to gain a monopoly in this business.. ive never

>really thought about it that way.. but hey dont u think it

>would do me best.. say some dude who really doesnt ahve

>enough money only has 160 and can get alot of other escorts

>but cant afford my rate of 250.. we can still have hella fun

>for 160 AND i have just re-directed his business to me

 

Hahahah, good point. There is a big part of me that admires your marketing mind-set. On the other hand, while I do think you're cute, and sexy, too, on the strength of this thread I now wouldn't touch you with a ten-foot pole. Which is to say, I don't want to have sex with AT&T.

 

I still wish you all the best, though, truly.

[Guest elwood]

A flat rate is the best way to go..in fact the ONLY way as far as I am concerned.I am not sure what your motives were in this thread ,Mr Gartner...but you come across as an arrogant character and may have lost some business.But...it is YOUR body and you should charge what people are willing to pay and, depending on the location, that may be quite a bit.

There is NOBODY for whom I would pay $300 an hour any longer ( and I have paid it a couple of times in the past and one of those two times was a great disappointment,the other so-so)

[+ deej]

>well the many porn stars in LA, are NOT all that hot, and

>they are usually full of themselves for god knows why..

 

You know, I've known and been good friends with dozens of guys from the adult industry over the years and none of them has ever given off even a fraction of the attitude you've displayed on this thread.

 

You're not as hot as you think.

 

I wish you good luck, kiddo. I really do. I think you'll need it. You're certainly not gonna build a career on charm alone. :+

[Guest fukamarine]

?This latter guy is very handsome and buffed

>and has made some porn films for one of the major studios

 

As in 20th Century Fox and MGM? :-)

 

fukamarine

[Guest Hole_4_Hire]

In my humble opinion, that makes you a hustler and not an escort.

 

I still have to agree with Deej that you're going to have problems making it in this business with your high rates and inflated ego. I've learned through experience that it's the clients needs that are most important. But, I have based my business on repeat customers. Perhaps you can survive with one-time shots because I doubt you'll build enough of a client base to make a living.

 

Hope you have a stable day job that can stomach your attitude. x(

[Flower]

>*****I am not sure what your motives were

>in this thread ,Mr Gartner...but you come across as an

>arrogant character and may have lost some business.

 

I have to agree. This thread reminds me of the old saw that goes something like "it's better to let people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and take away all doubt." While I certainly do not think you (Mr. Gartner) a fool, I hope you get the idea.

 

Whatever you charge, you should be consistent. You cannot cater to ALL markets at the same time, so select the market you most want to do business with and set your price accordingly. But lose the 'tude, dude. I've been to LA many times and there are some very cool and very nice bois there with great bods and faces and attitudes and hair styles that flatter their good looks.

 

I am Flower :*

[Huey]

Your view of the price tier appears to be a nice gesture on your part. Several times you mentioned that some clients might not be able to afford 250. Though you can still have a lot of fun at 160. It's unclear to me why some people consider this a negative. Remember some people are only interested in cuddling and oral while others are interested in more. I think you're right on the mark and as you suggested would drive business back toward you that migth head to another escort.

 

At 300. I would not hire you or any escort for an hour. I do not believe that the higher the fee the better the escort. In fact, lately I have not hired a few guys at 250. Most guys in our area (So. California) are at 175. - 200. based on the reviews here and the AOLers.

 

The problem I see with the tier pricing is what you might assume is one thing your client might feel was something else ... and that can result in a lot of problems and lost business.

 

I would go with a two tier price fee. The 160. for everything except penetration and maybe 250. for you to top or bottom. Also you can use these two fees as your starting point for longer appointments. Maybe 2 hours @ 300. without penetration and 450. with penetration.

 

I also like your attitude about eating "off the clock" with your client. I wouldn't pay an escort for his time to go have a nice dinner with him. Naturally i would pay for the meal.

 

Unless you are great at the art of massage I would drop that rate completely. There are many guys who give exceptional massages for 65. - 75. in the area.

 

While some of your remarks migth be a bit harsh I give you top marks for asking for feedback on this topic. I haven't seen an escort do so before this.

 

I wish you the best!

 

 

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[DavidGartner]

umm sure people online may perceive me as cunty sure, but its because i get soo many IM's a day full of insults, badgering comments etc. AND yes its takes a toll on my attitude, and it has NOTHING to do with what i look like. I am very bold and upfront and some people may perceive that as cocky because i dont beat around the bush etc. I dont need luck for anything I do everything myself. Ive been single for what 21 years. no boys wanna date me etc etc etc etc. I think i can manage just find so thanks for bringing my self esteem down that much more. you think escorting brings ur esteem up?? please bro.. I dont mind it but it doesnt help me eitehr .. except for my financially sound mind

[DavidGartner]

ummm I have ltos of repeat clients, most cant believe how comfortable i make them feel. I always have to make ANYONE im with comfortable as if they arent comfortable neither am i which than makes it kinda awkward and i hate feeling awkward. I have nothing but compliments from anyone who has hired me.. NO complaints and I have tons of repeat customers. thanks