"Rimming" = Safe Sex? Really?

[bcohen7719]

The details below from the Wikipedia scar the sh*t out of me.

Also, whatever happened to "dental dams?"

 

BC

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There are many health problems that can result from practicing anilingus, because of the presence of bacteria, viruses or parasites on or in the anus or rectum. These include hepatitis A, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, intestinal parasites, chlamydia infection, poliomyelitis, human papillomavirus (HPV), gonorrhea, Herpes simplex virus, conjunctivitis, and other sexually transmitted diseases.[4] Applying the mouth to the genitals immediately after applying it to the anus can inadvertently introduce the bacterium Escherichia coli ("E. coli") into the urethra, leading to a urinary tract infection. HIV/AIDS is not believed to be easily transmitted through anilingus, although experts assert that the risk exists.[5]

 

Frequent anilingus with casual partners increases the health risks associated with the practice. Generally, people carrying infections that may be passed on during analingus will appear healthy. Parasites may be in the feces if poorly cooked meat was consumed. Hepatitis A traces in feces apply only if the infected person has eaten contaminated food.

 

If the receiving partner has wounds or open sores on their genitals, or if the giving partner has wounds or open sores on or in their mouth, or bleeding gums, this poses an increased risk of STD transmission. Brushing the teeth, flossing, undergoing dental work, or eating crunchy foods such as potato chips relatively soon before or after performing anilingus also increases the risk of transmission, because all of these activities can cause small scratches on the inside of the lips, cheeks and palate. These wounds, even when they are microscopic, increase the chances of contracting STDs that can be transmitted orally under these conditions.

 

Another recent study suggests a correlation between oral sex and throat cancer. It is believed that this is due to the transmission of HPV because this virus has been implicated in the majority of cervical cancers. The study concludes that people who had one to five oral sex partners in their lifetime had approximately a doubled risk of throat cancer compared with those who never engaged in this activity. Those with more than five oral-sex partners had a 250% increased risk.[6]

[uwsman2]

Nope, rimming is not safe sex.

 

I've only done it a few times. The first time, an escort's gorgeous immaculate looking ass was just too much of a temptation and I decided to experiment. Within a day or two I was sick to within an inch of my life, weak, took to my bed, ultimately diagnosed with some rare tropical parasite and had to take a course of heavy antibiotics to get over it. Felt like I was dying. Swore I would never do it again.

 

The second time, it was a case of an escort taking liberties. I had hired a BDSM top for some play. We had discuss various things I was looking for. The topic of rimming never came up. I was tied down flat on my back on his bed, blindfolded, enjoying the way he was manipulating my body - suddenly I realized he had lowered his ass to my face, rubbing his crack against my lips, and in the excitement of the moment out came my tongue. It was exquisite. Although I did not subsequently get sick, a week or so later the escort called to tell me he had just tested positive for an STD and I should quickly contact my doctor and get tested. Luckily I tested negative. But once again, I swore off rimming, and this time it stuck.... Now if I'm ever putting myself in a position of somebody else's control, I specify in advance no rimming.

[jjkrkwood]

Nope, rimming is not safe sex.

 

I've only done it a few times. The first time, an escort's gorgeous immaculate looking ass was just too much of a temptation and I decided to experiment. Within a day or two I was sick to within an inch of my life, weak, took to my bed, ultimately diagnosed with some rare tropical parasite and had to take a course of heavy antibiotics to get over it. Felt like I was dying. Swore I would never do it again.

 

The second time, it was a case of an escort taking liberties. I had hired a BDSM top for some play. We had discuss various things I was looking for. The topic of rimming never came up. I was tied down flat on my back on his bed, blindfolded, enjoying the way he was manipulating my body - suddenly I realized he had lowered his ass to my face, rubbing his crack against my lips, and in the excitement of the moment out came my tongue. It was exquisite. Although I did not subsequently get sick, a week or so later the escort called to tell me he had just tested positive for an STD and I should quickly contact my doctor and get tested. Luckily I tested negative. But once again, I swore off rimming, and this time it stuck.... Now if I'm ever putting myself in a position of somebody else's control, I specify in advance no rimming.

 

there is NO safe sex, only safer sex, and YES there are aberrations to everything, especially when dealing with escorts who undoubtedly have MORE sexual partners than the average person. However if precaution are taken, all forms of sex can be SAFER and enjoyable. I am a PRO-rimmer,

and have been doing it for many years with NO issues or repercussions SO FAR. You can become ill without engaging in sex at all, so you should not let FEAR rule your life. Just stay aware and in control.

[jawjateck]

First time I ever did this was on one of Hooville's finest butts about 5 or 6 years ago, and you guessed it, I was sick sick sick about 2 days later. While I have enjoyed having it done to me, even quite recently, I have generally sworn off being the rimmer......well......that is......except.......for that one little episode in a steamy hot shower.....with our most recent escort of the year.

[jjkrkwood]

First time I ever did this was on one of Hooville's finest butts about 5 or 6 years ago, and you guessed it, I was sick sick sick about 2 days later. While I have enjoyed having it done to me, even quite recently, I have generally sworn off being the rimmer......well......that is......except.......for that one little episode in a steamy hot shower.....with our most recent escort of the year.

 

GEEZ, I must have a REALLY strong stomach ? Never had ANY issue with that at all...... Or maybe I was just "Born to Rim" ???

[josephga]

Ive let people do it too me and never had a problem However I wont be the rimmer unless its with a steady bf in a monogamous relationship.

[rvwnsd]

GEEZ, I must have a REALLY strong stomach ? Never had ANY issue with that at all...... Or maybe I was just "Born to Rim" ???

 

I have a very sensitive stomach and a fondness for rimming and have never become ill after rimming someone. As you (jjkrkwood) pointed out in an earlier reply, there is no such thing as "safe" sex. Some sex practices are less risky than others, but there is a risk associated with every one of them. Each of us has to determine our own risk tolerance and go from there.

[bcohen7719]

But what about "dental dams"?

 

I had difficulty finding an educational video on this subject. I found the

link below from a UK medical website, but cannot assess how accurate it is.

 

The laundry-list of communicable STD's caused me even further alarm.

 

Those who are apparently resistant to STD's: God bless you. But I think an earlier thread devoted to STD's carried a wise statement those those who choose to be very sexually active voluntarily, then, engage in a lifestyle of "exchanging diseases." That seems to ring true.

 

BC

 

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/facts/infectionoralsex.htm

[Poolboy21409]

At first the thought of sticking my tongue in someone's anus repulsed me...but then when it happened, and a very clean one at that, I was hooked. But this thread has me scared. However, I have never encountered a fishy butt on a guy as opposed to oral sex on a female. The old joke about what the blind man said when he walked by a fish market... "Hello ladies!!"

[+ newatthis]

...oral sex on a female...

Which raises the question of the safety of cunnilingus. Anyone know? bc?

[Steven_Draker]

cunnilingus

 

Which raises the question of the safety of cunnilingus. Anyone know? bc?

 

Good question. Probably we have to ask those who have been there ...

[Phil_musc]

jj, you sound like my kinda guy! I'll be right over, cleaned out and ready to go ;-)

 

I don't want to make light of legitimate concerns here and good health isn't necessarily something to be taken for granted. But I've been a party in this activity any number of times (both receiving and giving) and I have never had a problem. Now maybe it's bad karma and the gods of the universe will hit me with some sort of gastro-intestinal payback for even mentioning anything here, but I too say you can't allow fear to rule your life. Good sense yes, but we all have natural immunities that are the result of thousands of years of evolution. This is apparently a fairly common practice in the animal kingdom - what do dogs do when they first meet? Same thing for cats. I don't have any dogs for pets (sorry to say) but so far my cats have never had to go to the vets for chlamydia or some such thing, and goodness knows they're always checking each other out. My vet has never suggested a dental dam for any of my cats. I figure if they can get along without these things, probably so can I. Trust your immune system a little bit more (and don't use those stupid antiseptic hand creams that are cropping up all over the place. I'm only sorry I didn't buy stock in them before they became so popular. I'd be as rich as bcohen if I had!)

[jjkrkwood]

But what about "dental dams"?

 

I had difficulty finding an educational video on this subject. I found the

link below from a UK medical website, but cannot assess how accurate it is.

 

The laundry-list of communicable STD's caused me even further alarm.

 

Those who are apparently resistant to STD's: God bless you. But I think an earlier thread devoted to STD's carried a wise statement those those who choose to be very sexually active voluntarily, then, engage in a lifestyle of "exchanging diseases." That seems to ring true.

 

BC

 

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/facts/infectionoralsex.htm

 

I can only speak for myself when I say that I wont rim or suck cock when its encased in latex. I would "BARF", and whats the point ??

I dont endorse doing it without, but it works for ME. AS RV said earlier, each person must decide for themself how much risk they are comfortable with, but if you decide to do it, just relax and enjoy it, and dont beat yourself wondering "what if". What if's cant drive you crazy...

[Phil_musc]

Let's not lose our focus here, guys. The bacteria and nasties that we might be concerned with in cunnlingus are probably different from those that would concern us about annlingus. Let those who practice cunnilingus start their own thread. I'd suggest maybe in one of the fetish boards for those who go in for that recherche kinda stuff.

[jjkrkwood]

Good question. Probably we have to ask those who have been there ... [/color]

 

I've been there unfortunately, and NEVER want to return.....Eewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[jjkrkwood]

jj, you sound like my kinda guy! I'll be right over, cleaned out and ready to go ;-)

 

Phil, any guy with muscle in his name has an OPEN (pun intended) invite with me. Cum on over and have a seat on my face. And I serve snacks and drinks too!

 

The only precaution I take is putting my Lobster bib on so I dont get drool all over myself...... ;-P

[josephga]

Never been there and the thought of cunnlingus makes my tummy churn

[Phil_musc]

I think a Lobster bib will be just fine, jj. What kind of snacks and drinks? I'm kinda lately into gins and tonics (although scotch is nice in the colder months) and I wouldn't turn my nose up at a decent Malbec, chardonnay, sauvignon blanc, or zinfandel. Snacks I'm a little more selective about. Still, who knows? Like Humphrey Bogart said in Casablanca: "this could be the start of a beautiful friendship."

[jjkrkwood]

I think a Lobster bib will be just fine, jj. What kind of snacks and drinks? I'm kinda lately into gins and tonics (although scotch is nice in the colder months) and I wouldn't turn my nose up at a decent Malbec, chardonnay, sauvignon blanc, or zinfandel. Snacks I'm a little more selective about. Still, who knows? Like Humphrey Bogart said in Casablanca: "this could be the start of a beautiful friendship."

 

Your wish is my Command. Whatever creates the mood and turns you on shall be present.... I'm kinda Easy. LOLOLOL

[Dave]

Never been there and the thought of cunnlingus makes my tummy churn

 

I've been there unfortunately, and NEVER want to return.....Eewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

 

However, I have never encountered a fishy butt on a guy as opposed to oral sex on a female. The old joke about what the blind man said when he walked by a fish market... "Hello ladies!!"

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jeez, it’s a good thing these comments aren’t about gay men and eating asses - otherwise they would be met with outrage!

 

i thought the LGBTQ movement was about encouraging people to accept, tolerate, and respect sexual activities, even when those activities were different than their own.

 

as a bi male who knows the risks of cunnilingus, i could comment here (or in a separate thread, as suggested above) but really, what's the point?

[+ newatthis]

...as a bi male who knows the risks of cunnilingus, i could comment here (or in a separate thread, as suggested above) but really, what's the point?

There's a point as far as I'm concerned, since I asked the original question and really would like to know what the risks are, especially as compared with rimming. Here on in a separate thread; either works for me.

[Steven_Draker]

http://quarterlifelady.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/can_of_worms_ahead.jpg

[JT Brooklyn]

I have succumbed to the "Evils of Rimming".. But in very rare instances (Never on the First Date) as opposed to some who are looking for anyone who bends over!

 

I'm wondering IF in their case it is a Fetish? There was a Bar "The International Stud" Years ago in NYC with a backroom and the same guys would Service BUTTS!

[Guest Bauer]

Name, rank, and serial number only please. ;-)

[Okliehomo]

One word....

 

Shower..

 

As a card carrying control freak, there are a lot of things that I need to happen and a couple that I insist on...

 

Nobody gets off the plane, knowing what I expect and says to me, "I'm good".... Nope... that's not even remotely "good" enough.... Because, it's hot outside and men sweat.... just walking around or sitting on a plane and can get what Chris Daniels very cleverly calls "swamp ass".... a condition that he attributed to having to walk everywhere in NYC... a condition that he never brought to OKC... (nope....he was more like "clean as a whistle ass").... a condition quickly countered acted by ... one word... shower!

 

So, anyway, upon arrival, I want to hear water running and please, please, feel free to take your time. And for God's sake...... use the soap!!! And then stroll out, still damp, towel around your waist, show it to me and have a seat.....

 

As a result, I have had zero problems..... thus far...

 

Okie