It's All Too Beautiful

[Guest Kalifornia]

YO, I laugh so hard at times reading the posts on this site. I'm amazed that clients have such low self esteem. You think an escort is above you, some great gift from the almighty.

 

Nearly all (not every) escort posting I read is full of loathing for the client. They are telling you to fuck off while you're concerned that they receive too much email in a day. It's almost like this is a bad episode of the Outter Limits.

 

Some of the escort posts are written so poorly you wonder if the entire post was written by just one person. There appears to be plenty of split personailities around here AH & MJ are two example.

 

I also want to give a big paton the back to a few escorts that make sense, are entertaining and create posts that actualy can be read.

Two come to mind quicky Matt & Rick.

 

Well, carry on with your teenage baiting tatics. Cry about your woe is me problems. Wonder why HB post about respect wasn't respected and then move on with your bad ass self.

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[+ Lucky]

Yes sir.

[Flower]

>YO, I laugh so hard at times reading the posts on this site.

>I'm amazed that clients have such low self esteem. You think

>an escort is above you, some great gift from the almighty.

 

 

Sure haven't seen any of that here, but have seen a lot of guys stick up for escorts when a few High & Mighty "escort-deprecating" assholes are trying to put them down for no reason 'cept to evidently make themselves feel better.

 

 

>Nearly all (not every) escort posting I read is full of

>loathing for the client. They are telling you to fuck off *****

>Mark -Kalifornia

 

Sure haven't seen much of that eirther, but I can think of one or two such a posts -- certainly too few to make such a generalization from. Most of the escort postings have been much more even-handed than the clients' posts IMHO.

 

Of course that's what happens when you aren't hiding behind a screen name and can be as big a asshole as you wanna be--sorta like wearing a badge in real life :+

 

But in all candor, you seem like a very unhappy, bitter old man and that is really too bad. Your sour dispositon has caused many of the posters to take what you say with a grain of salt--sorta like, "well quess who wrote that -- LOL." And that is too bad, 'casue you obvioulsy are an intelligent person.

 

Such bitterness must come from a severly belittling experience early in life, akin to having your dick stomped on, which you just haven't gotten past and you seem to be taking it out on everyone here, 'cause you probably don't have the guts to speak that way to your fellow offiecers or friends if you have any.

 

Flower :*

[Guest jwraustin]

"Well, carry on with your teenage baiting tatics."

 

Seems like the biggest teenager I see in here is Kalifornia. Respect and listening to other people starts at home. A healthy dose of self-respect, instead of the apparent self loathing you have for yourself, beings at home. The more you post, the more clear your intentions on this board are becomming.

 

How about starting to make a positive contribution to this site?

 

Jon Dean

http://www.manfuck.net

[Guest Mikki]

The best marketing is when you make the customer think that they are the luckiest person in the world to get whatever it is you are selling. And when you are an escort, you are selling yourself, and if you don't think your clients aren't the luckiest people in the world to get to spend time with you, you ain't gonna have clients.

 

Life is all illusion. That is why when people get "dis-illusioned" they seek out spiritual disciplines to go on a different plane of existence. But for those who are of the flesh, sex is lots of fun and takes your mind off what a miserable life you really live during the sexing.But when it's over, you still have your life, your problems and yourself to deal with. So you feverishly look for another escort to help you through or call the same one.......like a pain killer. Therefore, it is no wonder that people emulate escorts.

It is like people who love Xanax, vicodin, or for that matter, heroin.

The high is fabulous, and if it works for you, go for it.

 

This country has always had a problem with sexuality and especially homosexuality. Religion has just ruined sex because they have sexualized morality. People have lost their retirement savings due to the immorality a few corpororate theives, but yet the country has little outrage. Bill Clinton got a blow job and you would think we were invaded by aliens at the threat to our society. I have yet to hear Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson or any of the sex cops go on the TV or radio and speak of the unthinkable morality of corporate robbing. They can't, because they are a part of it.

 

To end it, I think that is why people emulate escorts.........Here is someone they can buy for a fee to make them feel good doing something that is a crime in a country that hasn't grown up sexually. And escorts should charge lots of money for their services because they are like some exotic flower in a garden of really dreary vegetation.

Prostitutes have always held intrigue for the common man.

[SmallTownJohn]

My clients rock! And I'm not above or below anyone...period<g>

 

John

http://www.SmallTownJohn1.com

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Enough Rope

 

>YO, I laugh so hard at times reading the posts on this site.

>low self esteem

>

>full of loathing

>fuck off

>bad episode

>

>written so poorly

>split personailities

>

>big paton

>quicky

>

>teenage baiting tatics

>

>Mark -Kalifornia

 

Yawn ... scratch ... stretch ... look around . . . throw up ... yawn.

[Gigiloz4me]

... how does that old saying go? "Those who live in glass houses..." yadayadayada.

 

Your sloppy grammar indicates you're in no position to be judging anyone.

[Guest Kalifornia]

>

>

>My clients rock! And I'm not above or below

>anyone...period<g>

>

>John

>http://www.SmallTownJohn1.com

 

Hey I haven't ever heard of you but you seem down to earth. I like your remarks and wish more escorts would follow in your footsteps. You are a born leader, now please get your sheep to follow.

 

Best to you John. Mark

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Traveller]

>Hey I haven't ever heard of you but you seem down to earth.

>I like your remarks and wish more escorts would follow in

>your footsteps. You are a born leader, now please get your

>sheep to follow.

 

He also has a big fat dick and moans with a southern accent when porking ya. The only disconcert was that it kept conjuring up images of Rosalyn Carter.

 

Later.

[SmallTownJohn]

Hey now T,

 

That was my Jim Varney. The Rosalyn Carter is reserved for overnighters & heads of state:0)

 

John

http://www.SmallTownJohn1.com

[Guest jeffOH]

I respect my clients and I'm a client also. I don't recall seeing that many posts that are negative regarding clients.

 

I have noticed some resentment in posts here by clients who appear to think they're above not only escorts who post here, but also above everyone else. Doesn't bother me, just makes me sad for that person.

 

Seems to me that if a person is brimming with self-esteem, how another person regards escorts would be irrelevant. Really, what bearing could it have upon one's life?

 

I've found that life is easier when you respect others as you'd respect yourself until a person does something to cause you to not respect them. Doing the opposite seems to me to be a pretty negative way to live.

 

JEFF

[email protected]

[guyinsf]

Mikki:

 

To each his own in terms of philosophy and world view. I respect your right to view the "earthly" world as generally full of misery and the "spiritual plane" as the ideal. I don't view the world that way (and I'm glad I don't), but if your pursuit of spiritual ideal helps you with your misery, go for it.

 

I'm well aware of the idea of "samsara" but ultimately enjoyed Taoism most (when I was into studying religions). I appreciated its complexity -- even if you think you are on the right path, you have no way of knowing for you can know nothing yet you know everything. (Oversimplification, I know.) Here's something to ponder, if you'd like: If life is illusion, and one's spiritual/religious practice is part of life, then how can one be sure of the supremity of the spiritual path and not of the "fleshly" one? Are not both illusions -- just different ones?

 

Personally I'm pretty much into the here and now. I don't know what will happen when I die, but I'm not concerned with that. I'm just trying to be best person I can be while I'm alive, whether I'm getting fucked by a hot escort or taking care of a child.

 

Back to the original post by Kalifornia:

 

I, like others, have a different perception of what gets posted here. Then again I only read a small percentage of the threads here -- only those with subject headings that interest me. With VERY few exceptions I think the escorts who post here treat their clients with respect. Of course, only a few of the escorts listed here participate in the message center, so I'm not going to generalize about all escorts, but out of the 30 or so I've met personally I've only gotten a sense of disdain from a couple of them.

 

As someone else suggested, you seem unhappy. You also don't seem to hold the escort/client relationship/dynamic with much regard. Perhaps you don't even participate in that. (If you don't I really have to wonder why you'd want to visit this site other than to try to fight with people.) If you do hire escorts, then I'm afraid your internal emotional life is tainting what could be a more positive experience for you -- at great monetary expense. As you can see from the responses, we are all bright enough not to take on the negativity that you are trying to get rid of -- not because we're mean but because it wouldn't be helpful to you or us. I really suggest you do something -- counseling, writing poetry, talking with friends, meditation (whatever works for you) -- to try to address your wound. (Even if your wound is just one getting enjoyment out of finding people you disagree with and then attempting to provoke them. It seems to me that anyone could find something more enjoyable than that to do with one's time.)

 

Okay. Off my soapbox now.

[Flower]

Jeff--you and Guyinsf have both said what I was trying to, but much better and with much more self-restraint--good for you.

 

GuyinSF wasn't sure if Kalifornia used escorts--he has acknowledged doing so at least twice on these threads. Possilby because he is a police officer and is violating an oath of office, accounts for some of his anger--who knows. anyway, nice statement. :+

 

Flower :*

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

Who is AH and MJ

[Guest newawlens]

My take on escorts is that they make commodities out of themselves and then resent it when clients treat them like commodities. I think that's what you are referring to. It's never been a problem for me, as I don't spend enough time with them to have to deal with all that. I just fuck them and leave.

[guyinsf]

My take on escorts is that those with self-respect (and there are plenty of escorts and clients with self-respect) want to be treated with respect by their clients. Just because he has "commodified" himself doesn't mean that an escort wants to be treated like a blow-up doll. He is still a PERSON. I know that some escorts get off on being totally objectified and aren't interested in developing anything beyond a sexual relationship with their clients. That still doesn't mean that they want clients to insult them or to demand that they do things beyond their limits.

 

I recall one thread about someone wanting to find an escort he could sedate so he could "have his way with him." In the context of a relationship where trust has already been built, I can see someone asking for that (but he should still be prepared to hear "no"; that someone would think a stranger would want to come over to his place and be knocked out, only to wake up later (hopefully) and not know what happened to him borders on the sociopathic as far as I am concerned.

[Guest dstud4hire]

Well, I have generally found that those who find fault the loudest in someone else, oftentimes are a mirror image of what and who they complain about. Think about...if we were all honest with ourselves, the traits we have found deplorable in others are many times traits in our ownselves that we wish we could change.....

 

Kalifornia's posting...case in point.....

[Guest newawlens]

>My take on escorts is that those with self-respect (and

>there are plenty of escorts and clients with self-respect)

>want to be treated with respect by their clients.

 

If I ever find an escort who has enough respect for me that he actually shows up on time for an appointment, I'll think about it. So far I haven't found one.

 

 

>Just

>because he has "commodified" himself doesn't mean that an

>escort wants to be treated like a blow-up doll. He is still

>a PERSON. I know that some escorts get off on being totally

>objectified and aren't interested in developing anything

>beyond a sexual relationship with their clients. That still

>doesn't mean that they want clients to insult them or to

>demand that they do things beyond their limits.

 

What would it mean to treat an escort like a person? I have seen plenty of posts from escorts here complaining about clients who develop feelings for them or want to know something about their personal lives, even just want to know their names. You are not going to tell me that I should treat someone like a person but I am forbidden to ask his name. You can't possibly believe that makes any sense.

 

I saw a post here months ago from that Talvin guy complaining about clients who want escorts to stay over the usual time without paying more. He made escorts sound like a machine that you put a coin in, they move around for a while, then they stop until you put in another coin. And the same people complain about not being treated like a person? Bullshit.

[Guest jwraustin]

Sounds like you have been choosing the wrong escorts. Or perhaps, you are asking a bit more than the escorts can deliver. Think about it.

 

Jon Dean

http://www.manfuck.net

[guyinsf]

I know a few escorts' real names. I know one's full name and many details about his life (as he knows mine). Many escorts I've hired have been prompt. Unfortunately the one I like the best does have a habbit of "running late."

[Guest Bitchboy]

Sometimes you read the posts of someone and you really know how much he's hurting. To be as miserable as some of these guys convey in their posts is a very sad thing. I have pity for the really sick ones who cannot express themselves except in sentences of hate; they're really expressing despair.

[Guest Kalifornia]

>

>I saw a post here months ago from that Talvin guy

>complaining about clients who want escorts to stay over the

>usual time without paying more. He made escorts sound like

>a machine that you put a coin in, they move around for a

>while, then they stop until you put in another coin. And

>the same people complain about not being treated like a

>person? Bullshit.

 

LOL - Finally someone who gets my post!

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Guest Kalifornia]

>Sometimes you read the posts of someone and you really know

>how much he's hurting. To be as miserable as some of these

>guys convey in their posts is a very sad thing. I have pity

>for the really sick ones who cannot express themselves

>except in sentences of hate; they're really expressing

>despair.

 

This from a man who calls himself BITCHBOY, LOL @ U ROBOT.

 

I am happy and fairly balanced. You can pick apart my remarks line or even word by word yet it doesn't change your wrong impression.

 

I have no problems with escorts, clients, and pornography. I have problems with people who do not understand or pretend not to understand what I originally posted.

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Guest Kalifornia]

>My take on escorts is that they make commodities out of

>themselves and then resent it when clients treat them like

>commodities. I think that's what you are referring to.

>It's never been a problem for me, as I don't spend enough

>time with them to have to deal with all that. I just fuck

>them and leave.

 

Perfect

 

Mark -Kalifornia