3 days in row, 3 negative reviews from GaTwoSome

[Steven_Draker]

Hey, guys. I just spent 30 minutes typing a LONG response to this, especially since I have been in contact with them over the past few weeks...and when I posted it, the site let me know that I had been logged out. And I lost the post.

 

Mar, it looks like after 15 min of inactivity the MB software automatically logs you off in the background and when you click 'post' you lose whatever you were trying to submit. I'd suggest you either highlight and copy the text before clicking 'post' and paste it after you have logged in again or take the time to compose your message with the help of a word processor and paste it in the MB.

[Fishman]

I'd suggest you either highlight and copy the text before clicking 'post' and paste it after you have logged in again or take the time to compose your message with the help of a word processor and paste it in the MB.

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Yup...after that little exercise in compositional failure....I plan to start doing the latter...especially on the longer responses.

*chuckle*

[leigh.bess.toad]

I've been operating under the ipmression that there needs to be some sort of time limit on most reviews. However, these reviews are from encounters over 6 months ago. I figured I had a month, maybe 6 weeks max. Any comments?

[seeker630]

I've been operating under the ipmression that there needs to be some sort of time limit on most reviews. However, these reviews are from encounters over 6 months ago. I figured I had a month, maybe 6 weeks max. Any comments?

 

According to the FAQs:

We prefer reviews to be about sessions within the past 60 days. Any longer will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

 

And then there's processing time, which can delay the publication.

[+ deej]

I've been operating under the ipmression that there needs to be some sort of time limit on most reviews. However, these reviews are from encounters over 6 months ago. I figured I had a month, maybe 6 weeks max. Any comments?

 

It's in the FAQ. (see http://www.daddysreviews.com/faq/reviewer )

[Guest Spanker01]

Fishman,

 

I await your long response.

[AdamATL77]

Everyone seems to like to jump to the most negative conclusions when they have doubts. Maybe you should consider that someone introduced the twosome to daddy's reviews and pointed out how out of date most of the Atlanta listings were. Since I am one of the positively reviewed escorts, I will leave the rest to your very very wild imagination. :-P

[Fishman]

Ok, guys.

 

Here's what I know.

 

 

Thanks to my latest review and all the buzz it prompted, GATwosome has been hot on my tail in hopes of getting me over to spend some time with them in the Atlanta area.

So far so good with the communication. They have been extremely up front about expectations; they have been most patient in terms of my hectic schedule and waiting for a time when I can get over to Atlanta without being too pushed.

 

Although I hear the point earlier made about their possibly needing to better screen their escorts, honestly, they have been reporting less-than-stellar performances from some of the bigger names in the Atlanta scene...which at times has shocked me, but at other points, not as much. I personally DO screen my potential clients in the Atlanta area very carefully--mainly due to the fact that my last visit to that area (almost a year ago) was atrocious and a very poor showing on behalf of the patrons. I haven't been eager to return, but thanks to GATwosome, Jawja, and a couple others, I now find myself eagerly anticipating my opportunity to revisit.

 

Since they have been posting so many reviews in such a short span, I already had a ton of flags going up; and when the negative reviews started gushing out, the performance anxiety aspect of our potential meeting escalated. However, being rather forward and honest whenever interacting with clients, I began explaining these circumstances and inquiring about their reviews (frequency, tone, facts, etc). Their explanation was actually very down to earth and plausible. They claim they only started hiring as a couple about a year ago...and all these reviews they are making are for experiences they have had, 2 or 3 per month, over the past 11 or so months. They did start with the positive reviews--both to to give credit where credit was due AND the build their credibility. And now they're getting into some of the less-than-satisfactory performance reviews.

 

I did ask them, "Why now?" They said they simply hadn't put too much thought into it until they started seeing rather embellished, gushing accounts of some escorts they had seen. They merely wanted to throw in their input as reference, both the flattering and the devastatingly honest. They wanted to confirm and substatiate/refute where their experience allowed.

 

So.....unless Daddy brings some new info to light on the matter that might cause me to raise a more suspicious and wary eye to the entity, I do intend to get together with them....but I have conversely explained my boundaries--and we'll see how it all jives.

 

 

I do find it amusing, as someone above has already pointed out, that any time there is a less-than-ecstatic review the forums begin gnashing teeth and growling. *chuckle* As human beings, we the escorts do have "off days." And I am sure I don't have to remind you that there are some very unethical, arrogant, unprofessional guys in the trade as well...some who do as little as possible to get their money and get out....and some who even feel as though they are doing you a favor by being there and taking your money. And yes, I am aware some of the patrons are like that too. Everything that happens on one side of the coin consumately happens on the flip side as well.

 

Just remember that the reviews are highly subjective and, as one of my regulars and I were discussing the other night, are meant to be A factor in determining who you hire, not the sole factor. Everyone has different chemistry and expectations...and some people are just impossible to please!!! Just because GATwosome didn't enjoy their time with someone doesn't mean that you won't. I know Cam, in particular has some GLITTERING reviews....as does Rusty.... *shrug* Maybe you should try them for yourself and see what you think? Maybe what they say is true--even negative publicity can be good publicity.

 

 

Ok, I've managed to ramble in a circular fashion for long enough.

Cheers, guys.

 

Mar

(please pardon any typos....though thought went into it, fingers were flyin'!)

[jawjateck]

Interesting POV, Mar.....But my point is that even if all of their reviews are accurate (positive and negative), they are struggling to make good hiring decisions, and thus, I wouldn't give much heed to the content of their reviews, since they need more practice and homework to gain status as a reputable client. Good clients have bad experiences too, and should report the facts of those encounters, but a string of failures speaks to the lapses in their decision-making & screening process. In 11 years, I have never had a bad, awful, terrible, rotten, !@#$%^&*, experience; several so-so ones, but never a disaster. I'm very fortunate for sure. It seems that they have been trying to find pearls in a mudhole (i.e. ATL) which is sorely lacking in such gems. With a few, very few exceptions, this city has been dreadful in terms of escort providers for the 11 years I have been participating in this hobby. I have had to hit the road or import to experience my greatest hiring successes.

 

P.S. Mar, welcome back to Jawja!

[Michael Wayne]

I want to comment on the last two posts. I am one of the positively reviewed escorts of the twosome and while I never discuss clients in public all I can say is that they are two of the NICEST clients I have ever met- anywhere. We just had an encore session and it was BETTER than the first. These guys are real and legit but all I can vouch for is my experience with them not anyone elses. I find Atlanta to be a GREAT city but a VERY underserved city for escorts. That is why it is now my #1 travel city and I visit twice a month. I cannot keep up with demand and when I leave the Atl. my cock is totally spent and I need a couple days to recover. The clients I have met there are very talented sexually and they appreciate that someone is trying to meet the need and the demand. I do always have Georgia on my mind! http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1

[instudiocity]

Everyone seems to like to jump to the most negative conclusions when they have doubts. Maybe you should consider that someone introduced the twosome to daddy's reviews and pointed out how out of date most of the Atlanta listings were. Since I am one of the positively reviewed escorts, I will leave the rest to your very very wild imagination. :-P

HA! I've got something long for you! But, do you not realize that the message board will assume that you are a CO-CONSPIRATOR with the GA2SOME in this malicious attack? Why can't they tell the truth instead of repeating themselves? And seriously, you're off my list if you use the terms:"anal receptive activity", or "achieve an erection" and "for oral or anal insertive activity" to describe gay sex!

 

WHO says shit like that? Give me a break, I'm from Alabama - Anal Receptive Activity is called CORNHOLING!

 

And, why aren't these Reviewers being introduced to the Message Forum so that I can tease the shit out of them for their terminology?

[instudiocity]

...Since they have been posting so many reviews in such a short span, I already had a ton of flags going up; and when the negative reviews started gushing out, the performance anxiety aspect of our potential meeting escalated. However, being rather forward and honest whenever interacting with clients, I began explaining these circumstances and inquiring about their reviews (frequency, tone, facts, etc). Their explanation was actually very down to earth and plausible. They claim they only started hiring as a couple about a year ago...and all these reviews they are making are for experiences they have had, 2 or 3 per month, over the past 11 or so months. They did start with the positive reviews--both to to give credit where credit was due AND the build their credibility. And now they're getting into some of the less-than-satisfactory performance reviews.

 

I did ask them, "Why now?" They said they simply hadn't put too much thought into it until they started seeing rather embellished, gushing accounts of some escorts they had seen. They merely wanted to throw in their input as reference, both the flattering and the devastatingly honest. They wanted to confirm and substantiate/refute where their experience allowed.

So minimally, they violated the FAQ/TOS about only posting about encounters in the last 60 days? But seriously, Mar, do you get into 'anal receptive activity', 'erection achievement or 'oral/anal insertive activity'? I dunno, sounds DANGEROUS to me!!!! LOL!

 

These guys are real and legit but all I can vouch for is my experience with them not anyone elses.

But what I want you to vouch for about these two is, 'THEY CERTAINLY DON'T TALK LIKE THEY WRITE!!"

[Michael Wayne]

I have had two GOOD sessions with them and that is what I can vouch for. I just actually took the time to read all their reviews. they are tough, no doubt. I guess I am real glad they liked me and that I performed up to the high standards they expect. But here is the deal: We escorts are suppossed to be the best of the best- pros! We expect excellent compensation and the client expects excellent performance. This is how it should be and if more clients would speak out if the experience is bad then more escorts would deliver excellent performance. This is a fact. I am so glad that I have never recieved a negative review, ever, at any time, anywhere. But I have busted my ass to achieve this. Escorting is hard work and some clients are difficult and demanding. But what seperates the pros from the amatuers and wannabes is if you can perform for the tough clients. That is how I evaluate young escorts. I send them to the toughest clients I have and if they can pull it off then they will be able to make a million with their cock or ass before they are done. Anyone can be with a hot guy, that is easy, but can you get hard and stay hard for a dude who you don't see as hot. can you cum for him? that is the test...........

[Epigonos]

I’m with jawjatech on this one. I began hiring escorts in the fall of 2002. For the first few years I was like a kid in a candy shop. I was flying all over hiring escorts by the droves. I used Rentboy for eye candy and for a place to locate possible hires. Once I found a guy who interested me I checked this site to see if he had any review posted and if so what they said. If he had no reviews or negative one(s) I simply eliminated him from my list of possible hires. Thus I, like jawjatech, have NEVER had a really bad experience with an escort. I have certainly had a few less than stellar experiences but I have always attributed that to a lack of chemistry or an off day for the escort. In my opinion neither of these two reasons warrants a negative review.

 

If I’m going to spend a considerable amount of money hiring an escort it behooves me to do some serious research to make as certain as possible that my money is well spent. The key to a successful hiring career is really very simple – research, Research, and more RESEARCH. Frankly these guys don’t appear to have a clue.

[seeker630]

I’m with jawjatech on this one. I began hiring escorts in the fall of 2002. For the first few years I was like a kid in a candy shop. I was flying all over hiring escorts by the droves. I used Rentboy for eye candy and for a place to locate possible hires. Once I found a guy who interested me I checked this site to see if he had any review posted and if so what they said. If he had no reviews or negative one(s) I simply eliminated him from my list of possible hires. Thus I, like jawjatech, have NEVER had a really bad experience with an escort. I have certainly had a few less than stellar experiences but I have always attributed that to a lack of chemistry or an off day for the escort. In my opinion neither of these two reasons warrants a negative review.

 

If I’m going to spend a considerable amount of money hiring an escort it behooves me to do some serious research to make as certain as possible that my money is well spent. The key to a successful hiring career is really very simple – research, Research, and more RESEARCH. Frankly these guys don’t appear to have a clue.

 

Looking at the dates of the encounters vs the publication dates, it would seem that the negative experiences generally preceded the positive ones, so perhaps there has been a learning process.

 

However, research alone does not guarantee a successful encounter; it only mitigates the risk. I am not the only one here who has had less-than-satisfying encounters with some well-reviewed escorts. Sometimes, as you say, it's chemistry, and sometimes perhaps the escort was not at his best. The majority of my hires HAVE been what I would term satisfying. I have never written a negative review but I do think that SOME are justified. And being unwilling to write one dilutes the value of the review site, in my opinion.

 

As for only hiring well-reviewed escorts - for many of us that's simply not feasible, especially outside major mtropoolitan areas. And if everyone were to do that, then obviously the pool would never grow because no one would ever try anyone new.

 

I once hired 2 guys who totally ripped me off - they literally took the money and ran, 5 minutes into the session. I reject the idea that all the blame is mine because I chose to hire unknowns. I took a risk, but their behavior was totally their own responsibility and I am not accountable for it.

 

Faulting the GATwosome for ther hiring decisions seems to absolve the escorts of ALL blame. That doesn't seem justified to me.

 

There are certain things about the tone & style of several of their reviews that I find distasteful, but it doesn't mean that all of their criticisms are invalid.

[Phil_musc]

I was actually kind of disappointed that no new review has appeared for a few . . days. It was beginning to have a kind of fatal fascination to read what these guys had to say over my morning coffee. Kind of like watching a disaster happen before your very eyes - you just can't look away and you keep watching (or reading in this case)

 

But seriously, there has been quite a lot of good commentary here in my opinion. While I agree that maybe these guys need to develop better research skills, a part of me (and a significant part at that) agrees with Mikey about what it means to be a professional. And Mar, I found a lot of heart and soul in your long post above. I hope your encounter goes well. You take this quite seriously. As far as the review's stilted language mentioned above, well yes I agree no one in real life talks like that, at least not where I live. But there is a cool and dispassionate style that is almost clinical-sounding that is an interesting contrast to some of the more gushy reviews I have read here. Maybe the reviewers are just average guys (in the true, real sense of the phrase) that were disappointed with their experiences and were "telling it like it was" or at least how it seemed to them, without embellishments or an axe to grind. My thoughts are evolving here.

[Juan Vancouver]

where do the ga2some work? Nasa?

 

i am beginning to suspect that they may work in a profession far older than that.

 

lol!

[instudiocity]

lol!

Leave it up to Juan to get the joke(s)! Hey, Juan are you up for some Oral/Anal Insertive Activities? Of course, it would need to occur after we both achieve erections...LOL!

 

"Vancouver, you are Go for Insertion!"

[Juan Vancouver]

"Vancouver, you are Go for Insertion!"

 

Command center, BrownBuck here.

 

All controls are Go, machines fully loaded and operative, target identified and confirmed.

 

I'm going in! I repeat, I am going in!

 

Over.

[+ peterhung85]

I'm very suspicious. Three days in row, GaTwoSome has reviewed someone from Atlanta, and each time, they weren't happy. And they weren't happy for the same reason each time:

 

The escorts couldn't get it up to fuck them, and when they wanted to fuck the escort, the escort "whined" about being a bottom.

 

Seriously, WTH? This is plain bizarre that three times in a row, they had remarkably similar but bad experiences with escorts. And it's virtually the same encounter, with the same descriptions of what went down (or didn't) and the same wording to describe the disappointment. I smell something rotten in the state of Denmark.

 

I am not trying to accuse anybody, but it seems very likely that the person who is behind all this is an escort based in Atlanta and trying to bring down others while creating more potential clientele for himself. That's way too suspicious to me...

[seeker630]

I am not trying to accuse anybody, but it seems very likely that the person who is behind all this is an escort based in Atlanta and trying to bring down others while creating more potential clientele for himself. That's way too suspicious to me...

 

Well, considering that there are 2 postiive reviews as well as negative ones, and that 2 of the positive ones are of Atlanta-based guys, it would have to be a pretty elaborate fraud, unless someone has stolen another reviewer's identity. And one of the poorly-reviewed guys acknowledged meeting the twosome. I know that people can be devious, but until someone comes up with some evidence, I think I'll apply Occam's razor & assume the reviews are legitimate.

[AdamATL77]

I am not trying to accuse anybody, but it seems very likely that the person who is behind all this is an escort based in Atlanta and trying to bring down others while creating more potential clientele for himself. That's way too suspicious to me...

 

Well, considering that there are 2 postiive reviews as as negative ones, and that 2 of the positive ones are of Atlanta-based guys, it would have to be a pretty elaborate fraud, unless someone has stolen another reviewer's identity. And one of the poorly-reviewed guys acknowledged meeting the twosome. I know that people can be devious, but until someone comes up with some evidence, I think I'll apply Occam's razor & assume the reviews are legitimate.

 

Thank you seeker630 for pointing out the obvious. How can another escort be behind the reviewer name if one of the negative reviews has an escort's response. That response does NOT say he never had the appointment. I am not the only user on the message boards that has confirmed that GATwosome is authentic.

 

Peter, please read the whole thread... My point is being proved still...

[leigh.bess.toad]

I am not trying to accuse anybody, but it seems very likely that the person who is behind all this is an escort based in Atlanta and trying to bring down others while creating more potential clientele for himself. That's way too suspicious to me...

 

I don't know if that's the case, but to me it almost casts a pall over the reviews from escorts in/around the Atlanta area. I know when looking at reviews now that have a location of Atlanta, the first thing I look at is who wrote it, not what was said. That was the case with today's coverboy. And I certainly don't think that's good for any of the escorts in an area. Again, I realize it is on a case-by-case basis, but the time lag between the events and the reviews seems curious. And that all the reviews portend problems with escorts being able to get it up and/or prepare for anal insertive activities. So unless the water in Atlanta is laced with anti-Cialis, why do so many escorts in Atlanta have a problem getting it up? Or getting fucked? Unless the inter-personal dynamics between the GaTwosome are the problem. And absent any rebuttals, we are simply left to wonder. But these gentlemen seem to have written more negative reviews than the rest of the reviews for a month. At least that's how it seems to me.

[+ peterhung85]

Thank you seeker630 for pointing out the obvious. How can another escort be behind the reviewer name if one of the negative reviews has an escort's response. That response does NOT say he never had the appointment. I am not the only user on the message boards that has confirmed that GATwosome is authentic.

 

Peter, please read the whole thread... My point is being proved still...

 

Gotcha! Sorry, I did not read all the postings, it was just my impression... But now that you made your point it is more clear now. Thank you!

 

Best Regards,

Peter Hung

[Michael Wayne]

All I can say is that on my 3 recent trips to Atlanta I heard ALOT of positive things about ADAM, alot of great things about SMALL TIME JOHN and some excellent things about Marcus. When I am in the ATL. I am so busy with clients that I have no time for socializing. I would love to meet all three. The flip side to this post is that I have ONLY heard negative feedback about every other ATL based escort. Sometimes I just have to ask the client to stop because I don't like to hear about negative stuff. I kind of think that is why I do so well there though- because other than the 3 I listed there is not much choice. If I am wrong then yall speak up. In a city of almost 6 million people you would think that it would be full of studs who would retire the 4 of us and put us out to stud!!! Again, just to clarify: GA2some are real and the reviews they have submitted sound alot like the terrible things I have heard about dozens of so-called ATL escorts. This scenario may be true in many cities. In New Orleans we have 36 guys on men4rentnow with nola as home city but only 5 or 6 will even return a phone call, text or email from a good new client. This must be so frustrating for a client . Many of my ATL clients told me they have QUIT hiring locally at all but only hire traveling guys. In these cases I try to reccomend the 3 local guys I mentioned above.......I ran into the same thing in HOuston. Beyond Alan Ladd, medium rare and Mr. Butch who is there, really? And houston is America's 3rd or 4th largest city?