Is $900 for an overnight too much? What about $1,000? $1,200?

[Mocha]

I'm not really wanting a yes or no answer, because it's all dependent. But it's just something that crosses my mind occasionally.

 

I've done 3 overnights where I've been paid $1,200+. However, it seems the majority of the population thinks it's too much. For example, I had a regular client say to me in person the other day during our evening (which was going to be an overnight), "I just cant justify paying X amount extra to have you just sleep next to me".

 

Although he was still paying me a good amount for an evening, I was still taken aback by his saying that. It's like, it made me feel that I should be expected to charge by the time that I'm awake and in action. And although him saying that annoyed me just slightly, I wasn't upset because I realize there are lots of guys who feel the same way. Probably majority of the clients.

 

But it has me thinking, what's the meaning of an overnight? I mean...they exist, yes; but what point is their existence if client's aren't willing to pay for them? I wish I had a $1,200 overnight every time someone asked. But more often that not, it's "oh, well I was just thinking we could sleep together, no sex".

 

So, I'm almost tempted to drop my overnights to a ridiculous rate just so I can get more of them. But wouldn't that make me look bad in the scheme of things? $600 for an overnight? What about the clients who have paid $1,200? That wouldn't be fair. So no, that wouldn't work.

 

How do I figure this out?

[Rod Hagen]

Go with $900 or even $850, that way you're undercutting most by $100-$300 and you'll likely, on average, make it up in tips and even if you don't you'll make much much more by "appearing" to be less expensive. Remember that 10 years ago overnight rates averaged MORE than they are now.

[Guest Merlin]

Look at it this way, perhaps. If 3 guys hired you for an hour during the same day, you would, I assume feel obliged to shower and dress etc each time, then drive to and fro, and incur travel expense. But if one guy hires you for an overnight, you shower dress and travel too and from one time, and you many not be expected to provide sex 3 times. Most businesses would offer a discount for "volume", since your effort and expense is less. But frankly, most escorts seen to charge more than for 3 separate encounters, the opposite of a volume discount.

If you charge 900 for an overnight, you make as much as one hour each day, but have a lot more time to yourself.

Of course, if overnights are something you often do not enjoy, you may be justified in charging for that "effort".

 

In general, if your product is desirable but still not selling, your price is too high for the marketplace.

[Mocha]

Of course, if overnights are something you often do not enjoy, you may be justified in charging for that "effort".

 

Overnights need alot of effort. In fact, the scenario of 3 separate occasions sounds easier than an overnight. How is that possible? Well one is not giving all their time to 1 person. And....thats only 3 hours. An overnight is 8-12.

 

And as trite as it sounds...even if I haven't slept in 3 days, it is extremely hard to fall asleep to the soothing sounds of snoring, which I'd say most guys over a certain age do. It literally drives me up the wall.

 

I've done overnights for less than 1,000 in the past and there was only 1 time I walked away and felt right about it. I made it clear to 1 guy that for $500, we'd not be playing in the morning. It turned out to be a very vanilla booking, dinner and movie included and so therefore I did not feel it was much work involved.

 

In other cases, I'd either flown around the country and met for an overnight for less than what I felt was necessary and wanted to bury my head in the sand for a week, much less never see the client again.

 

I think $850 is fair for the most part. But just as 'psychologically' guys don't want to spend X amount to sleep next to me, 'psychologically' I don't feel right doing overnights for less than 1,000.

 

The market chose me, I didn't choose the market. So to choose to get less than the market wanted me to get, is in-congruent to the natural balance of life.

[jasoncarter_dfw]

I have had very reasonable overnight rates throughout my career (700 local, 900 travel + flight overnight)...I actually think that has helped my long-term success in this field!

 

If you are clear in your rates and what that involves, then there should be no issues. Like I've said earlier...an overnight for me, for example, is roughly dinner to breakfast and we will play 2-3 times, and all I ask is 6-7 hours of uninterrupted sleep and a brief 5 minutes to call home before bed. Pretty simple and easy to communicate, right?

 

This negotiating stuff is for the birds...the client states what they want, you state your rate, and he either agrees or you both move on...it's too easy...

 

As far as issues with sleeping with someone you don't know, I suggest you pack a sleep aid with a first time client just in case the snoring becomes unbearable...I always have an "emergency vial" in my overnight condom/lube bag that has few ibuprofen,allergy pill, cialis and an ambien in it for just that reason.

[Guest Merlin]

Don't forget earplugs for the snoring.

[JT Brooklyn]

Overnights need alot of effort. In fact, the scenario of 3 separate occasions sounds easier than an overnight. How is that possible? Well one is not giving all their time to 1 person. And....thats only 3 hours. An overnight is 8-12.

 

And as trite as it sounds...even if I haven't slept in 3 days, it is extremely hard to fall asleep to the soothing sounds of snoring, which I'd say most guys over a certain age do. It literally drives me up the wall.

 

I've done overnights for less than 1,000 in the past and there was only 1 time I walked away and felt right about it. I made it clear to 1 guy that for $500, we'd not be playing in the morning. It turned out to be a very vanilla booking, dinner and movie included and so therefore I did not feel it was much work involved.

 

In other cases, I'd either flown around the country and met for an overnight for less than what I felt was necessary and wanted to bury my head in the sand for a week, much less never see the client again.

 

I think $850 is fair for the most part. But just as 'psychologically' guys don't want to spend X amount to sleep next to me, 'psychologically' I don't feel right doing overnights for less than 1,000.

 

The market chose me, I didn't choose the market. So to choose to get less than the market wanted me to get, is in-congruent to the natural balance of life.

 

Mocha..Sounds like you really can't get into Overniters! So do what most "Upfront Working Guys" do and just say you don't do them!

 

As far as Snoring AFTER a "certain age" goes..I've slept with many guys BEFORE a certain age who snore their asses off!

[instudiocity]

Mocha..Sounds like you really can't get into Overniters! So do what most "Upfront Working Guys" do and just say you don't do them!

 

As far as Snoring AFTER a "certain age" goes..I've slept with many guys BEFORE a certain age who snore their asses off!

THANK YOU BG! And yeah, I've slept with snorers from 12 on up. I personally wear a CPAP Mask so I don't snore... just as a courtesy now, I no longer need the therapeutic assistance.

[josephga]

I agree with the snoring has nothing to do with age. I didn't snore at 12 not at 18 not in my 20s 30's nor do i snore at 43

[Guy Fawkes]

Go with $900 or even $850, that way you're undercutting most by $100-$300 and you'll likely, on average, make it up in tips and even if you don't you'll make much much more by "appearing" to be less expensive. Remember that 10 years ago overnight rates averaged MORE than they are now.

 

I was about to say much the same thing. The range that you talking about is the same as what was common in 1999. This economy sucks for all of us!

[KMEM]

I think one of the main problems for escorts, and maybe clients also, is intimacy. Sex likely is easy, even 2,3 or more times. There you two are ALONE for 12 hours; after sex, what do you do? The list of things to do is endless but the possibility for not being compatible is also. Most likely talk is #1 with movies or the like second. Of course, food as in a meal or meals is always on the list of things to do.

 

If all a client wants is sex multiple times there are easier ways to achieve this goal than over nights. If a client wants intimacy and I think a lot do then having the "right" escort is paramount. Paramount does not mean having two escorts, unless that is what you really want and pay for.

 

I think you can deduce that what I think an over night is all about is intimacy and it is something I want and embrace, figuratively and literally.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[down_to_business]

I can only answer for myself, but personally I would never spend over $1,000 for an overnight. The major reason to me is that I would much rather have 5 one hour appointments with my favorite escort or try 5 different guys, then have 1 overnight. Another reason is most overnights I have had have not been enjoyable and still another reason is that I can't enjoy myself if I spend that much. Over the years I have had 5-6 overnights that have ranged from $500 to $750 with different escorts (some reviewed on this website, others have retired and reviewed on hooboy or were never reviewed at all). Only 1 was a complete ripoff and one was the absolute best experience I ever had hiring. The others ranged between. The best and the worst were both not reviewed anywhere and charged $500.

 

In general, I would be more apt to try an escort with a lower overnight rate then a higher one and I wouldn't think any more or less of an escort that charged 500 than one that charged 1200-- the difference would simply be I would more than likely hire the 500. So my answer to would dropping your rate make you look bad- I say absolutely not (but then I never equate a higher asking price to a better experience at anything). That being said, I do just as strongly believe that dropping your rate would make YOU feel bad. For that reason, I would recommend that you keep your rate high or at least where you can still feel good about yourself. You absolutely may get fewer overnight appointments, but at least you will be able to feel good about them and yourself when they do happen.

 

Good luck in figuring it out.

 

P.S. Jason I liked your overnight rate and I do need to travel to DFW later this year.. hmmmm

[Epigonos]

I have stated before on this site that I am NOT a huge fan of overnights. I have hired many escorts and can think of only three (Aaron Mark, Dane Scott, and Steven Kesslar) with whom I had, what I would call, successful overnights. As a general rule I would rather hire a guy for dinner and a couple of hours on two consecutive nights which cost about the same as a single overnight. I am used to sleeping alone and am most comfortable that way. I, however, think that between $750 and $1,000 is about right for an overnight. I have NEVER paid more.

[JackTwist]

I've only hired for overnight dates when I'm in Las Vegas three or four times a year and want someone cute to enjoy sin-city with. I think $1,000 plus airfare is about what I've always paid for most overnights when the escort travels from out of state and meets me there. That rate has always seemed fair and reasonable to me.

[JTtorretto]

It also depends which market you are in and whether or not you will actually be expected to sleep or stay awake.

 

When I first started as an escort almost 3years ago, I was flown to Indiana for the evening to see a new client who I knew was wanting to "drink from the my tap" so-to-speak, with regards to water sports (which needless to say, is one of my favorite activities to perform). However, whats usually "standard" on most appointments (regardless of appt length) is the release of a single warm golden stream to be enjoyed by the client. This gentleman, however, was anticipating, me supplying him with a fresh stream of piss, roughly every 30-45 minutes, throughout the entire (freezing cold btw) January evening. When I was finally all tapped out, after the first 2 hours, he demanded I drink more water until I could supply him with another stream of piss into his mouth. He was relentless and needless to say, it wasn't much fun, hour after hour being yelled at to drink endless amounts of water (when I could barely stay awake and my feet were freezing on his ice cold bathroom tiled floor).

 

so that was a LOT more work for an "overnight" than to simply snuggle up to someone.

[gcursor]

I think this goes with the other posting about how many times can somebody cum during a session too. As for me, I like overnights and accept the "terms and conditions" of each one that I go through (i.e. reasonable amount of sleep, etc.). To me, it is all about the quality of time spent..never the quantity.

 

To put it in other terms, I have cable tv. Do I sit there and watch it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week so I can say that I've gotten good use of how much I pay each month? No i don't. Well I tried doing it for a day once but I digress....I pay for the cable tv and it's there when I want to watch it. No I'm NOT comparing escorts with cable tv..i'm comparing the TIME spent with them.

 

However some clients just don't like longer time slots and it doesn't work out as well for them. For me, it allows me the ability to get to know somebody better without having to rush through and worry constantly about the time. I can relax and take...........my..............time...

[JackTwist]

I think this goes with the other posting about how many times can somebody cum during a session too. As for me, I like overnights and accept the "terms and conditions" of each one that I go through (i.e. reasonable amount of sleep, etc.). To me, it is all about the quality of time spent..never the quantity.

 

Well said. I've NEVER had expectations for myself or the escort regarding how many times we needed to cum or fuck during an appointment, whether it's a one-hour session or an overnighter. I totally agree with the "quality over quantity" concept.

[instudiocity]

To put it in other terms, I have cable tv. Do I sit there and watch it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week so I can say that I've gotten good use of how much I pay each month? No i don't. Well I tried doing it for a day once but I digress....I pay for the cable tv and it's there when I want to watch it. No I'm NOT comparing escorts with cable tv..i'm comparing the TIME spent with them.

I don't know gcursor... seems to me the cable tv analogy works pretty well. You've got this cable in bed next to you for hours on end. You don't use it the whole time it's there, but when you turn it on, it brings you satisfaction. (pun intended)

 

Seems pretty similar in function and effect. Too much time, too little time, neither should be considered. What the cable's is doing when you've got it turned on is the most important thing! LOL! ("Cable=Escort" for those of you who missed the joke.)

 

Which comes to the real point, Escorts, for whatever reason, are fee by hour(s), but, hopefully, clients are paying based upon their experience with that escort. It's a conundrum. Some escorts are worth thousands of dollars per experience even if it's a few minutes. Others aren't worth cab fare after an overnight.

[jj69action]

Hey Jason, SOUND advice! I also pack an "emergency vial" in my "trick bag" for just issues you discribed, after all an escort or client is human; snoring, tossing & turning or just can't get use to the bed, can come into play.....ear plugs have saved my sleep more than once! Thanks for the GREAT weekend!

I have had very reasonable overnight rates throughout my career (700 local, 900 travel + flight overnight)...I actually think that has helped my long-term success in this field!

 

If you are clear in your rates and what that involves, then there should be no issues. Like I've said earlier...an overnight for me, for example, is roughly dinner to breakfast and we will play 2-3 times, and all I ask is 6-7 hours of uninterrupted sleep and a brief 5 minutes to call home before bed. Pretty simple and easy to communicate, right?

 

This negotiating stuff is for the birds...the client states what they want, you state your rate, and he either agrees or you both move on...it's too easy...

 

As far as issues with sleeping with someone you don't know, I suggest you pack a sleep aid with a first time client just in case the snoring becomes unbearable...I always have an "emergency vial" in my overnight condom/lube bag that has few ibuprofen,allergy pill, cialis and an ambien in it for just that reason.

[leigh.bess.toad]

Hey Jason, SOUND advice! I also pack an "emergency vial" in my "trick bag" for just issues you discribed, after all an escort or client is human; snoring, tossing & turning or just can't get use to the bed, can come into play.....ear plugs have saved my sleep more than once! Thanks for the GREAT weekend!

 

Or you could just take out your handy, dandy flogger and beat the snoring out of them

 

Figure 8 pattern and all.

[adriano46]

So many interesting views here.

 

For quite some time (maybe over a decade now) I have had a preference for overnights as opposed to one or two hour meetings. Of course, these were in Europe where an overnight fee is much lower than $1000, and the escorts see it as an evening that includes dinner, maybe the theatre or a concert, or going out clubbing, and also includes time for real sleep. I ALWAYS keep ear plugs available (both for me - but also, God forbid, for them).

 

I began the overnights back in Amsterdam with a few guys who I met when I first started more seriously meeting clients. Meeting guys in the boy bars was fine, but left one a bit wanting for more. Using the upstairs rooms in the clubs was pretty sleazy to be honest - often the only thing to clean up with was a paper towel. One time I picked up two Hungarian guys (one very muscular and the other a real twink -- we ended up having a brief 3-way in a cheap hotel, but then dropped off twinky and the muscular guy came back to my hotel and WOW!!! He was really horny in every sense of the word.

 

Back and forth to cities like Moscow, Budapest, Bucharest, Frankfurt, Munich, Hamburg, Cologne, Vienna etc... and I learned that many guys would very easily do an overnight from 300-400 Euros plus a meal and some entertainment.

 

Now, as I get older, I find that as much as I like cuddling, I do not sleep as well with someone else in the bed, and so the overnights are less frequent. Added to that is the high end price most escorts want for an overngiht of $1000 and upwards (and when you throw in again dinner, theatre, clubbing, shopping or whatever, it gets to be closer to $1500 or higher, which is a bit too much in this economy. As one guy here said, better hiring 5 guys for an hour.