Your Favorite G.W. Bush Blunder

[Guest Chazzz69]

Since we are including blunders from Mr. Bush here are a few from Mr. Gore.

 

Mammogram...sonogram...honey graham...

At an event in Las Vegas on Monday, 09/18/00, Gore declared potential breast cancer victims faced "a long waiting line before they could get a biopsy or, uh, or a uh, another kind of, what am I looking for, a sonogram or...." People in the crowd shouted "mammogram."

(Source: Fox News 09/18/00; MSNBC 09/21/00 - The News with Brian Williams)

"Had that happened to Bush the news media would have used it to further the theme that the Texas Governor has a troubled relationship with the English language." - Brian Williams 09/21/00

 

One thousand billion million trillion...

Oct. 25 2000 JACKSON, Tenn. (Reuters) - Criticizing Bush's Social Security privatization plan at a rally in Tennessee, Gore said, "He is proposing to privatize a big part of Social Security and he's proposing to take $1 trillion, a million billion dollars out of the Social Security trust fund and give it as a tax incentive to young workers."

A trillion is one thousand billion, not a million billion.

(Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/wires/1025/p_rt_1025_41.sml)

 

And my personal favorite:

 

Hey! It's Super Tuesday... oh wait...

Several Tennesseans tried to cast votes in the presidential primary, thinking that their state was part of Super Tuesday. They weren't alone. Vice President Al Gore seemed to think so, too. Knox County registrar Pat Crippens said, "I just got off the phone with a gentleman. I had to explain we're not Super Tuesday, we're just next Tuesday." His office got about 30 calls from confused voters. In 1988, Tennessee and 12 other Southern states decided to hold their presidential primaries on the second Tuesday of March, dubbing it "Super Tuesday" in hopes of gaining national political clout. Several Northern states also held their primaries that day. More than a dozen states have since moved their primaries to the first Tuesday of the month, creating a new "Super Tuesday." Tennessee - the vice president's home state - is among six that have stuck with March 14. As reporters and photographers watched from the lobby of his Nashville headquarters on Tuesday, Gore called a "Miss Ferris" and told her, "Today is the presidential primary in Tennessee ." His expression changed as he listened to her. "Well, you know, that is right. You are absolutely right," he said before hanging up and quickly dialing the next number on his voter call list.

(Source: Houston Chronicle 3/8/2000 by Houston Chronicle News Services)

 

 

Chazzz69

Politics is a game, please don't take it seriously. :+

[BewareofNick]

"You've heard Al Gore say he invented the internet.

Well, if he was so smart, why do all the addresses begin with "W"?"

--10-28-00

 

"If you don't stand for anything, you don't standfor anything!"

Gov. George W. Bush said to a packed rally at Bellevue Community College

 

 

"They said this issue wouldn't resignate with the People. They've been proved wrong, it does resignate."

 

"A surplus means there'll be money left over. Otherwise, it wouldn't be called a surplus."

-- Kalamazoo, MI 10/27/2000

 

"If we are going to save a generation of young people, our children must know they will face bad consequences for criminal behavior. Sadly, too many youths are not getting that message. Our juvenile justice system must say to our children: We love you, but we are going to hold you accountable for your actions. --Bush campaign literature."

(Mr. Dubya: should you be held accountable for your youthful indiscretions when you were a 30 year old "child"?!)

 

 

"I'm not going to talk about what I did as a child. What I am going to talk about -- and I am going to say this consistently -- [is that] it is irrelevant what I did 20 to 30 years ago. What's relevant is that I have learned from any mistakes I made. I do not want to send signals to anybody that what Gov. Bush did 30 years ago is cool to try."

--Gov. Bush in an interview with WMUR-TV in New Hampshire, when asked if he had used "drugs, marijuana, cocaine"

 

 

 

"I don't want nations feeling like that they can bully

ourselves and our allies. I want to have a ballistic defense

system so that we can make the world more peaceful, and at

the same time I want to reduce our own nuclear capacities to

the level commiserate with keeping the peace."

—Des Moines, Iowa, Oct. 23, 2000

 

"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take

dream."

—LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000

 

"If I'm the president, we're going to have emergency-room care,

we're going to have gag orders."

 

 

"Drug therapies are replacing a lot of medicines as we used to

know it."

 

 

"It's one thing about insurance, that's a Washington term."

 

 

"I think we ought to raise the age at which juveniles can have a

gun."

 

 

"Mr. Vice President, in all due respect, it is—I'm not sure 80

percent of the people get the death tax. I know this: 100 percent

will get it if I'm the president."

 

 

"Quotas are bad for America. It's not the way America is all

about."

 

"If affirmative action means what I just described, what I'm for,

then I'm for it."

—St. Louis, Mo., October 18, 2000

 

"Our priorities is our faith."

—Greensboro, N.C., Oct. 10, 2000

 

"I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial

profiling, which is illiterate children."

—Second presidential debate, Oct. 11, 2000

 

"It's going to require numerous IRA agents."

—On Gore's tax plan, Greensboro, N.C., Oct. 10, 2000

 

"I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to

answer questions. I can't answer your question."

—In response to a question about whether he wished he could take back any of his answers in the

first debate. Reynoldsburg, Ohio, Oct. 4, 2000

 

"I would have my secretary of treasury be in touch with the

financial centers, not only here but at home."

—Boston, Oct. 3, 2000 (Thanks to M. Bateman.)

 

 

While speaking about KIPP Academy in Houston, Texas during the debate

last night, would-be president Bush said:

"It's a school full of so-called at-risk children. It's how we,

unfortunately, label certain children. It means basically they

can't learn. ... It's one of the best schools in Houston."

So he thinks that "at-risk" means "can't learn?" And that one of the

best schools in Houston is filled with students that can't learn?

 

"... I've been talking to Vicente Fox, the new president of Mexico... I know him... to have gas and oil sent to U.S.... so we'll not depend on foreign oil..."

-- on the first Presidential debate, 10/03/2000

 

"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."

—Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000

 

"I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy."

—Redwood, Calif., Sept. 27, 2000

 

 

"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations

rise above that which is expected." --Los Angeles, Sept. 27, 2000

 

 

"...more and more of our imports are coming from overseas."

-- On NPR's Morning Edition (9/26) - (Thanks Paul ...)

 

 

 

Larry King: "What do people misunderstand about you most"

George Walker Bush: "That I'm running on my dad's name... (!?!)

I'm proud of my dad... I reconciled my love for my dad a long time ago"

-- What the heck is he talking about?

 

 

"Well, that's going to be up to the pundits and the people to make

up their mind. I'll tell you what is a president for him, for example, talking about my record in the state of Texas. I mean, he's willing to say anything in order to convince people that I haven't had a good record in Texas."

--MSNBC, Sept. 20, 2000 (Thanks to Gregory H. Monberg.)

 

 

"I am aperson who recognizes the fallacy of humans...,"

apparently meaning fallibility."

--from "Bush courts women in cozy 'Oprah' visit" by William Goldshclag

printed in the New York City edition of the Daily News, September 20, 2000, page 5 (Thanks Michael...)

 

 

"A tax cut is really one of the anecdotes to coming out of an

economic illness."-- The Edge With Paula Zahn, Sept. 18, 2000

 

"The woman who knew that I had dyslexia--I never interviewed her."

--Orange, Calif., Sept. 15, 2000

 

 

"The best way to relieve families from time is to let them keep some

of their own money." —Westminster, Calif., Sept.13, 2000

 

 

"They have miscalculated me as a leader." —Ibid.

 

 

"...I don't need to be subliminabable.." Orlando, FL, Sept. 12 -- when caught using subliminal technique in his dirty ads against Gore... (read more)

 

 

"This is what I'm good at. I like meeting people, my fellow citizens, I like interfacing with them."—Outside Pittsburgh, Sept. 8, 2000

 

 

"That's Washington. That's the place where you find people getting ready to jump out of the foxholes before the first shot is fired."

—Westland, Mich., Sept. 8, 2000

 

 

"Listen, Al Gore is a very tough opponent. He is the incumbent. He represents the incumbency. And a challenger is somebody who generally comes from the pack and wins, if you're going to win. And that's where I'm coming from."

—Detroit, Sept. 7, 2000

 

 

"We'll let our friends be the peacekeepers and the great country called America will be the pacemakers."—Houston,Texas, Sept. 6, 2000

 

 

"We don't believe in planners and deciders making the decisions on behalf of Americans."—Scranton, Pa., Sept. 6, 2000

 

 

"I regret that a private comment I made to the vice presidential candidate made it through the public airways." —Allentown, Pa., Sept. 5, 2000.

Is he regreting what he said? Oh, no... he's regreting that we heard...who is an asshole?

 

"The point is, this is a way to help inoculate me about what has come and is coming."

--on his anti-Gore ad, in an interview with the New York Times, Sept. 2, 2000

 

 

"As governor of Texas, I have set high standards for our public

schools, and I have met those standards."

--CNN online chat, Aug.30, 2000 (what are ya' laughin at?)

 

 

 

"Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and don't do

it, that's trustworthiness."--Ibid.

 

 

- "exemplarary"...

-- On 60 Minutes, 09/10/2000, after a rather interesting "expose" of the Texas schools and

the terrified kids waiting to take the TAAS (?) test... I wonder what his SAT's were?

 

"I don't know whether I'm going to win or not. I think I am. I do know I'm ready for the job. And, if not, that's just the way it goes." (Talk about precognition!)

—Des Moines, Iowa, Aug. 21, 2000

 

 

"We cannot let terriers* and rogue nations hold this nation hostile

(hostage) or hold our allies hostile.''

[Flower]

>Ok Flower, you are completely wrong about your assertion

>that military leaders supported going on to Baghdad during

>the Gulf War. Schwarzkopf and Powell are both on record as

>opposing continuing military action. They both reported to

>Bush that all military objectives had been achieved. Any

>continuance of the war would have been for political

>objectives only.

 

You are correct as to what was finally said publicly and on the record. I'm surprised you don't recall the media reports of underlings anonymously speaking of a rift between Schwarzkopf and Bush on that issue and there being analogies to Truman and Gen.Douglas MacArthur and Truman saying don't cross the 38th Parallel and MacArthur doing so anyway. There was one report of the telephone call where Schwarzkopf was arguing to go to Baghdad and there being yelling and cursing. It was speculated he was talking to Powell who was relaying the President's decision. Schwarzkopf has also said in his many interviews that he didn't work under Powell, but as Unified Commander, under the Sec. of Defense and thus the President, but that he usually went through Powell to the President, and that he and Powell were in agreement on all "key issues."

 

To his credit, he has never gone back and did an "I told you so" for the history books and all public comments always support the President's decision.

 

You may be right as to Powell, but when Schwarzkopf has said so many times that he and Powell were in agreement on key issues, I took the liberty of inferring something I maybe shouldn't have :+

 

As for Congress, it was obvious from all the public statements members made at the time that the majority wanted to take out Saddam, and said so while the war was still gong on--once the decision was made by Bush, then no one wanted to second guess the President at that point in time.

 

 

Flower :*

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>FFF;

>

>I can't believe that you are commenting on intelligence,

>when in previous posts you have demonstrated that you don't

>know the differnece between "threw" and "through"

 

I do know the "differnece" between the two. However, sometimes my fingers get tricked with homonyms. Some of the more common homonym typos are "you're" for "your" and "their" for "they're". It doesn't mean they we don't know the "differnece" between those, it just means we're having a brain fart.

 

Typographically you'res,

 

FFF

[Guest ncm2169]

Methinks some people should improve their repartee skills before they get in over their heads. ;-) Nothing that was said above even approaches being worthy of a response. :*

 

P.S. Some people might also brush up on their reading skills. For the third time, are those who prostrate themselves before the flatulence goddess Coulter also in bed with (you'll pardon the expression ) David Geffen on the public beach access in Malibu deal? x(

[Guest ncm2169]

Helpful hint: you'll find Malibu beach access in your Weekly Reader under "Current Events."

[Guest ncm2169]

Idiot savants are known for their excellent spelling skills. :o

[Guest ncm2169]

Hang on a sec. Gotta clean these glasses. There. Now. Oh jeez, I still see the same things. (Memo to self: make appt. with optometrist before re-reading Bucky's post). }>

[Guest Chazzz69]

Equal...if not more so?

"When my sister and I were growing up," Mr. Gore told a small audience made up mostly of women, "there was never any doubt in our minds that men and women were equal, if not more so."

(Source: NY Times, 08/12/00)

Equal - if not more so? More so what? More "equal"? Who is more so? If two things are equal, what is the "more so" for?

 

 

One thousand billion million trillion...

Oct. 25 2000 JACKSON, Tenn. (Reuters) - Criticizing Bush's Social Security privatization plan at a rally in Tennessee, Gore said, "He is proposing to privatize a big part of Social Security and he's proposing to take $1 trillion, a million billion dollars out of the Social Security trust fund and give it as a tax incentive to young workers."

A trillion is one thousand billion, not a million billion.

(Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/wires/1025/p_rt_1025_41.sml)

[BewareofNick]

I don't need to tell that to the people in this room, but there is some in our country believe in the -- what I call the soft bigotry of low expectations. They don't believe in the bigotry, but because there's low expectations, there is a soft bigotry.

-- White House, Sep. 4, 2002

 

It's the systems that don't test are those that quit on the kids.

-- White House, Sep. 4, 2002

 

[Arkansas and Alabama] don't need fancy theories, or what may sound good. Science is not an art -- I mean, reading is not an art. It's a science. We know what works.

-- White House, Sep. 4, 2002

 

But today I want to talk about what we're creating in Arkansas, called the Center for State Scholars... and the catalyst will be what they call the Business Roundtable. ... They start interviewing children in 8th grade about their ambitions, and explaining reality. If you don't have any ambitions, the minimum wage job isn't going to get you to where you want to get.

-- Little Rock, Arkansas, Aug. 29, 2002

 

He's got his priorities straight. He has faith foremost in his life, and his family are his two priorities. ...And his first priority -- his first priority is to make sure every child in this state gets educated.

-- Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Aug. 29, 2002

 

If you believe every child can learn, therefore we ought to know whether that's the case.

-- Pickering for Congress Luncheon, Jackson, Mississippi, Aug. 7, 2002

 

In the way they're kind of writing it right now out of the Senate Finance Committee, some people could spend their entire five years on welfare - there's a five-year work requirement - going to college. Now, that's not my view of helping people become independent, and it's certainly not my view of understanding the importance of work and helping people achieve the dignity necessary so they can live a free life, free from government control.

-- West Ashley High School, Charleston, South Carolina, July 29, 2002

 

Steve [Riggs, volunteer with the South Carolina Military Department,] believes it's important to teach history -- live history, or history that through people wearing uniforms, so they can see history come to life.

-- West Ashley High School, Charleston, South Carolina, July 29, 2002

 

When we were walking in, Bob was telling me how proud he is of Hope and the job she does, particularly to promote literacy. And I told him, I'm real proud of my wife, too.

-- Columbus, Ohio, May 10, 2002

 

We have just passed historic reform in Washington, D.C., education reform. It may be hard for you to believe, but there are, at moments, when Republicans and Democrats come together for the good of the nation.

-- Remarks at Taft for Governor Luncheon, Hyatt Regency Hotel, Columbus, Ohio, May 10, 2002

 

I appreciate Thomas Downs, who's your superintendent. Interestingly enough, he showed me a picture of he and my dad when he was -- I think a teacher, he said -- in Iowa.

-- Giving a speech on education at Logan High School, LaCrosse, Wisconsin, May 8, 2002

 

You're the first high school class to have graduated with America under attack.

-- Rufus King High School, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, May 8, 2002

 

I want to thank your Governor for traveling with me today. It's an honor to be in a presence who has made public education his top priority.

-- Rufus King High School, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, May 8, 2002

 

It's important for you all to understand that when our country speaks, that we mean it, and we do what we say. I said either you're with us or you're against us. I meant that.

-- Rufus King High School, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, May 8, 2002

 

We've got to trust the local people. We've got to trust the Andys, the teachers here. We've got to trust the Keiths, the principals all across -- the parents.

-- Rufus King High School, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, May 8, 2002

 

With all due respect to the cameras, I hope you read more than you watch TV.

-- Puzzling. Clarke Street Elementary School, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, May 8, 2002

 

And, finally, in order to go to college, to meet the goal you've set, make sure you make right choices. Tell them, no, when somebody tries to say drugs are cool, or alcohol is good. Make the right choices. You'll be in college, and that's what we want.

-- Clarke Street Elementary School, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, May 8, 2002

 

[Local school districts] have a responsibility to reject curriculum that do not work.

-- Vandenberg Elementary School, Southfield, Michigan, May 6, 2002

 

The people who care more about the Iowa children when it comes to education, are Iowans, not people in Washington, D.C.

-- Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Apr. 15, 2002

 

Sometimes when I sleep at night I think of "Hop on Pop."

-- Pennsylvania State University, Apr. 2, 2002

 

You can help by helping build one of these school chests. It doesn't matter how you do it, how you raise the money. Just get it done.

-- Samuel W. Tucker Elementary School, Alexandria, Virginia, Mar. 20, 2002

 

We need to know whether or not people are learning. And if they are, there will be hallelujahs all over the place.

-- University of New Hampshire, Jan. 8, 2002

 

I understand taking tests aren't fun.

-- Hamilton High School, Hamilton, Ohio, Jan. 8, 2002

 

Jordan, I wasn't sure what to think at first. You know, I grew up in a period of time where the idea of America being under attack never entered my mind -- just like your Daddy's and Mother's mind probably. And I started thinking hard in that very brief period of time about what it meant to be under attack. I knew that when I got all of the facts that we were under attack, there would be hell to pay for attacking America.

-- Age-appropriate response (?) made to a 3rd grader's question, town hall meeting, Orlando, Florida, Dec. 4, 2001

 

We've got to make sure that the education system throughout the world provides people the needs to be able to provide work.

-- Barbara Walters interview, Dec. 4, 2001

[BuckyXTC]

>>Shrub is dumber than dogshit. An incontrovertible fact

>

>Since it's a fact, could you please share with the class

>four FACTUAL examples that prove your factual assertion?

>

>Breathlessly yours,

>

>FFF

 

Looks like Beware of Nick beat me to the punch, with many more than four examples from Shrub's own lips.

[Chuck50]

I'd love to Fuck a Marine MMMM hot time

[taylorky]

it seems all the old right wing impotent bastards want war.but those assholes won't be the ones dying,it will be us kids.peoplek like me .it's always that way,the fat pigs sit in there straining chairs demanding that a commie.arab.chink,or who ever they don't like at the moment be killed.but just like good ol george w,dick cheney,and the other punk cowards did in viet-nam they find a way not to go.would i die for this country???you bet i would!!would i die for georgies unfinished business???FUCK NO...one more observation i just can't understand how any gay person (esp. one that buys or sells sex) can be a right winger.jesus thats like the chicken admiring the fox because of his stealth.hell there were probably some jews that liked hitler also.it is just amazing how people hate themselves so much they would join the group that would (if not for bleeding heart knee jerk liberals like my folks and all the other good americans)put them not only in the closet but nail there feet to it's floor yea some words may be misspelled,so fucking what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>it seems all the old right wing impotent bastards want

>war.but those assholes won't be the ones dying,it will be us

>kids.peoplek like me .it's always that way,the fat pigs sit

>in there straining chairs demanding that a

>commie.arab.chink,or who ever they don't like at the moment

>be killed.but just like good ol george w,dick cheney,and the

>other punk cowards did in viet-nam they find a way not to

>go.would i die for this country???you bet i would!!would i

>die for georgies unfinished business???FUCK NO...one more

>observation i just can't understand how any gay person (esp.

>one that buys or sells sex) can be a right winger.jesus

>thats like the chicken admiring the fox because of his

>stealth.hell there were probably some jews that liked hitler

>also.it is just amazing how people hate themselves so much

>they would join the group that would (if not for bleeding

>heart knee jerk liberals like my folks and all the other

>good americans)put them not only in the closet but nail

>there feet to it's floor yea some words may be

>misspelled,so fucking what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

I have one word for you:

 

Thorazine

 

 

Pharmaceutically yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

I'm just curious, has anyone compiled a similar list for Bill Clinton's eight years in the White House?

 

If not, I wonder why?

 

Curiously yours,

 

FFF

[BewareofNick]

FFF,

 

 

I don't believe you'll find a similar site simply because, while you may not have the same opinion I do of Bill Clinton, he did not come close to mangling the English language the way that Dubya does. Certainly we can debate the ethics and morals of the past few Presidents

 

*Dubya seems to struggle with that pesky Constitution in his effort to make up for his daddy not toppling Saddam. His brother helped him to steal the election from Al Gore in Florida (but as a side note: those voters in Palm Beach County must be as dumb as dirt because they screwed up this past election too)

 

*Clinton of course received a blowjob in the White House and then lied to Congress about it. Of course, this was the ONLY thing the Republicans (led by Bob "I'm out of office for being an extreme right winger" Barr) could get him on. They certainly conducted quite a witch hunt and wasted millions of taxpayer dollars doing so.

 

*Bush Sr. and Reagan lied before Congress as well about the Iran Contra affair. A lie is a lie of course, but the Democrats never pursued these two with the single minded determination that Clinton was pursued.

 

*Carter and Ford were pretty innocuous, but let's not forget Watergate and Richard Nixon.

 

Clinton was a Rhodes scholar and a very intelligent man who unfortuantely, was not a very moral man in his personal life. W is a child of privilege who was handed everything in life, including his degree from Harvard and the Presidencey (Thanks, Supreme Court). He is, as someone stated so eloquently above, as dumb as dog shit and I can provide more examples straight from his own mouth.

 

"I'm sorry the room is so small. I suspect we could have accommodated a lot more people if we had a bigger room."

-- Washington, D.C., July 12, 2002

[Traveller]

>...one more

>observation i just can't understand how any gay person (esp.

>one that buys or sells sex) can be a right winger.

 

Republicans lower my taxes. This gives me more money to spend on hookers.

 

Later.

[Guest Kenny021]

IS ANYONE STILL READING ALL THIS SHIT???

 

Yea, I know, I am but this is it.....no more.

[Flower]

> *Clinton of course received a blowjob in the White

>House and then lied to Congress about it.

******

> *Bush Sr. and Reagan lied before Congress as well about

>the Iran Contra affair. A lie is a lie of course, ******

 

Is a lie really a lie? Clinton's was about a personal indiscretion that really was no body else's business, while the cover up by Reagan and Bush before Congress had everything to do with the BUSINESS OF THE USA--it was about a sitting president violating the law and policy which was the law of the land and policy established by Congress.

 

So while they all three lied, the American People and Congress were entitled to the truth regarding the "conducting of business" of our country and seemingly not entitled to information about personal sexual encounters of it's leaders.

 

I have always maintained that the President's attorney "malpracticed" when allowing him to answer the fateful question in his deposition--he should have refused to answer and challenge the court's ruling--certainly there would not have been the fall out as there ended up being--like what wold the court have done--held in contempt? Maybe, but that would have been the end of it and Clinton never would have had impeachment proceedings brought--but that's another story

 

Flower :*

[taylorky]

>

>I have one word for you:

>

>Thorazine

>

>

>Pharmaceutically yours,

>

>FFF

hmmmmmmmmmmm i would bet your need of viagra is far greater than my need of thorazine!!!!!!

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>*Carter....were pretty innocuous

 

Oh yeah, that little thing called the "Iran Hostage Crisis" and the botched helicopter rescue mission (how many American servicemen were killed?) were as innocuous at international incidents come.

 

I'm sure in hindsight, everyone views the bone crushing Carter recession and 21% interest rates as also being trifles.

 

Right, Carter was (is) a towering international figure.

 

Appallingly yours,

 

FFF

[btmstudnyc]

Can I ask a really stupid question?

 

Why was this question posted on "Ask an Escort?"

 

 

As far as my favorite blunder for dubya.....His Hair colorist!!!

 

JIM

 

:+

[btmstudnyc]

Damn...sorry guys...I forgot I was still in the LOUNGE....Forgive me oh mighty ones.

 

I'll just step out...I'll be in the other room..I promise not to disturb you...

 

YIKES>>>SOMEBODY HELP.

 

JIM:o

[BuckyXTC]

>>*Carter....were pretty innocuous

>

>Oh yeah, that little thing called the "Iran Hostage Crisis"

>and the botched helicopter rescue mission (how many American

>servicemen were killed?) were as innocuous at international

>incidents come.

>

 

If you're implying that Carter was responsible for the "Iran Hostage Crisis", then I'm inclined to think you're even dumber than Dubya.

 

Perhaps one of the biggest reasons for the Iran Hostage Crisis was due to the kind of unilateralism and interference in the affairs of other sovereign nations the U.S. government practiced for many years, precisely the kind of imperialism that Dubya wants us to practice now. The U.S., through the CIA, was involved in toppling the leader of Iran (Mohammed Mossadeq) in favor of installing the Shah, who was hardly a prime example of democratic leadership. The repressive policies of the Shah against his own people led to his overthrow, with the installation of another nutcase, the Ayatollah Khomeini, and plenty of residual ill will against the U.S. for it's role in putting the Shah in power. Those are the facts. Of course, it's so much easier to blame Carter than to examine the policies that led up to this whole episode. Whether you like it or not, it was precisely this brand of unilateralism and imperialism that gave rise to the most radical forms of Islamic fundamentalism, and the burgeoning hatred toward the U.S.

 

As the great philosopher George Santayana once said: "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it."

 

Dubya hasn't learned, and I suspect he's unteachable.

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>Perhaps one of the biggest reasons for the Iran Hostage

>Crisis was due to the kind of unilateralism and interference

>in the affairs of other sovereign nations the U.S.

>government practiced for many years,

 

Right. It was OUR FAULT that a bunch of crazy Iranians invaded the American Embassy (American soil) and held Americans captive - until they realized Reagan was going to become President and he wasn't going to put up with the shit that weenie Carter had.

 

Like others, I am now bored with the idiocy and demagoguery found in this thread so I will be reading it no more.

 

Begone, before someone drops a house on you!

 

Wickedly yours,

 

FFF