Give me a fucking break!

[Guest jwraustin]

OK....guys, I need to vent. Let me start this by saying that I go out of my way to NOT be a fucking prima donna, but....

 

I get this call from a client who wants to book an evening appointment with me. Its about 3 p.m., and I have some time later in the evening for an "in" call. I block out that time, and quit taking apointments for the evening.

 

I give him directions to my place. About 20 mins before his appointment time, he calls me and says that he cant drive in the rain, and wants me to come to him. So, what the heck, I am a nice guy, and I agree. He gives me directions to his place, and its about 40 mins drive on the freeway from my home. I make the drive, in the rain. His directions are really bad, and I wind up getting lost, with an hour drive just to get to his place.

 

When I finally get there, his apartment complex is very confusing, and I eventually get talked in by the cell phone to his building. When I get to meet my new client, the first thing that strikes me is the overwheming smell of dirty laundry in his appartment. Then I notice that he has about a 3 day beard on his face, a dirty t-shirt on, and his apartment is really a mess - I mean dirty. And this is my new prospective client for the evening.

 

We sit and talk for a while, and I notice the sheets on his bed are obviously not clean (always a bad sign).

 

I gently tell him the best I can, that this is not going to work for me, that I dont feel confortable here, and that I need to leave. I tell him there is no charge for the evening, since its not my scene. He was very nice about it, but I left feeling really lousy about the whole event. I know this probably has a devasting effect on him, but damn!....this sux for both of us!

 

Total time spent getting ready and making this call: 3 hours (not including the drive back home) Money exchanged: $0.00.

 

Guys....If you are going to spend the money asking an escort to come to your place, please invest the time in making yourself (and your home) presentable. If your apartment or home is a virtual mess, and you show up looking "ragged out", then I will assume you arent ready for sex with me. For christ sake, we are going to engage in sex...please have the courtesy to have a clean body at least.

 

99% of all of my clients show respect for me when we are together. I realize that not everyone lives in a million dollar home, stays in the 4 Seasons deluxe suite, and has a wad of money to blow on an escort. I understand that, and its cool with me. But.....

 

When you come to my place, my home is clean, smells nice, and I always have fresh bedding, and above all, I am clean, presentable, and ready for your time with me.

 

Christ sake, please show a little respect. Give me a fucking break!

[alanalt]

There are so many posts about unsatisfactory escort experiences that its good to be reminded that sometimes the reverse applies as well. Problem is that I suspect most prospective clients like the one you describe either won't use a site like this, or would ignore such advice if they do come here.

 

Such (unfortunately) is life...:-)

 

I'm sorry for your spoiled evening and sorrier that I didn't know about you when I was in Austin last December. I think we could have had fun! :9

 

Alan

[Guest Kalifornia]

Yo it is the cost of doing business. We really don't need a lecture on what to do to get ready for a escort. Welcome to the real world.

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Guest bottomboykk]

>We really don't need a

>lecture on what to do to get ready for a escort.

 

Yo, obviously some people do need a lecture, and maybe they'll get the message some day!

[alanalt]

>Yo, obviously some people do need a lecture, and maybe

>they'll get the message some day!

 

I agree but I wouldn't hold your breath while waiting!!

 

Alan

[Guest Kenny021]

>We really don't need a

>lecture on what to do to get ready for a escort.

Yo, obviously some people do need a lecture, and maybe they'll get the message some day!

 

DITTO

 

This emphasizes the minimal responsibilities that clients should have when they hire escorts. I wouldn't dream of seeing an escort without showering IMMEDIATELY before he is set to arrive. If in my home or a hotel room, I make sure things are neat and in their proper place. I also expect that the escort will be freshly showered and impecably clean.

As much as we read about these "rules", they are not always practiced. In this particular case, you did the correct thing. You spent 3 hours of your time and got no money in return. However, sad to say, it's some of the downside of the job.

[CT Dick]

>>We really don't need a

>>lecture on what to do to get ready for a escort.

 

I didn't see a lecture. I saw someone who got burned airing his frustration. Mark-Kalifornia, I think your reaction was unnecessarily harsh.

 

>Yo, obviously some people do need a lecture, and maybe

>they'll get the message some day!

 

Unfortunately, I doubt it. This guy obviously didn't care about an escort's feelings and probably never will. If you are correct that it only happens one time in a hundred, count yourself lucky.

 

Dick

[Flower]

>>>We really don't need a

>>>lecture on what to do to get ready for a escort.

 

~ /s/ Kalifornia (hmmm--aka "mr Clean or maybe not?"

 

>I didn't see a lecture. I saw someone who got burned airing

>his frustration. Mark-Kalifornia, I think your reaction was

>unnecessarily harsh.

>

>>Yo, obviously some people do need a lecture, and maybe

>>they'll get the message some day!

 

>Dick

 

Well said, CT -- but while you may only call Kalifornia's response "unnecessarily harsh", I think it was insensitive and oblivious to the real issue indicative of someone who is more defensive about the hygiene and cleanliness expected comment in this situation than one who practices it! :+

 

JWRAustin -- you had every right to walk away--when I first started reading your thread, I thought, "this poor guy was pressured to stay with that dirty sob and he should have high-tailed it ASAP"--glad you did, BUT YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE FELT BAD OR GUILTY!!

 

Hygiene and cleanliness is something anyone is capable of and I'd not give a second thought to telling him so up front and leaving--maybe he'll get the message for the next guy. Nor is sharing the situation here "unnecessary"--the fact that it happened to you and has happened to others here, from this and other threads, is sufficient to justify the reminder--course it works both ways, but you know that--AND you NEVER came across as "lecturing", btw

 

Flower :*

[Guest Kalifornia]

Kenny do you bake cookies too? Fuck what are we coming down to. OK I agree it is nice to be freshly washed for the appointment. Yet, come back to earth guys, these are not royalty, these guys are hos about to stick their cock in us or we are about to do the same to them.

 

All this fuss and muss just to havee sex at a very expensive price? There is no fun in sex if it is this planned and calculated. Justify it anyway you want, but the fun is gone!

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Guest Kalifornia]

Just to clarify Flowers comments directed toward me, I did not and never suggested that the escort does not have a right towalk out on a client under such conditions. It is the fact the escort brings his wooo is me whinney message to this forum. FUCK that is life, FUCK that is called business. You don't like it find a new job!

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Losgatan]

Mark,

 

I think you're way out-of-line here. The purpose of the board is to encourage give-and-take between escorts and clients. And, if just one client learns something from this thread, that purpose will be served.

x(

[Flower]

>Yet, come back to earth guys, these are not

>royalty, these guys are hos about to stick their cock in us

>or we are about to do the same to them.

>Mark -Kalifornia

 

So what's your point? They are guys no better nor worse than you (well certainly no worse), and that's giving you the benefit of the doubt to be sure. I hope that you are portraying this arrogant and assholish attitude to stir things up as opposed to really being such an egocentric ass, but in case it just comes naturally, then consider this still another lecture :+

 

Flower :*

[Guest Kalifornia]

>

>So what's your point? They are guys no better nor worse than

>you (well certainly no worse), and that's giving you the

>benefit of the doubt to be sure. I hope that you are

>portraying this arrogant and assholish attitude to stir

>things up as opposed to really being such an egocentric ass,

>but in case it just comes naturally, then consider this

>still another lecture :+

>

>Flower :*

 

What a joke. YOU who acts as a shill for Ethan telling me what is up, hahahahahahaha Really? What happened to your green font?

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Guest jwraustin]

The purpose of this board is both to inform and to educate. I recall a thread some time ago on escort top ten "turn off's", and I think it was hands down that personal hygiene was near the top of the list.

 

I also noticed a particular theme that also underlies the responses to my thread. In particular is the idea that we are "hoes", and we should just take on anyone who calls, and if its not to our liking, then too bad - its just the way of doing business. Its one of those mis-conceptions about escorts, and shows a lack of respect for escorts who are really trying to deliver a good service. (I for one do not take every call I get, and have walked away from many calls for one reason or another)

 

I would never for the life of me even think about hosting an appointment with a client without my being clean, fresh, and totally ready to work. The same should be true for a client. By following this rule, I have managed to obtain and keep some very impressive clients over the years. I have a lot of respect of my clients and myself to allow that to change now.

 

If someone is just looking for a "steet" fuck, then he really shouldnt be spending the time and money to hire a professional escort. He should save his money, and just go down to the drag and pick up someone who really doesnt give a shit about personal appearance and just wants to take his money.

 

I will admit that I was really pissed last night. I usually am quite a mellow fellow. The purpose of my post was both to inform and educate. I hope I have achieved that goal in the end.

 

Jon Dean

http://www.manfuck.net

[+ deej]

>I will admit that I was really pissed last night. I usually

>am quite a mellow fellow. The purpose of my post was both to

>inform and educate. I hope I have achieved that goal in the

>end.

 

I'd like to think your posts will educate, but I'm doubtful. Those who agree with you (and I'm one of them) that respect should come first in interpersonal relations are already on your side. The rest aren't and never will be.

 

As for "it's business" -- consider this: PacBell ROYALLY fucked up my order for new phone service this week. I am an appropriately irate almost-customer at the moment. They're just going to have to put up with my whining. I fulfilled every requirement they laid out to be a good customer and they stepped on their crank in a big way and continue to do so.

 

Had I given a wrong address, bad directions, not given them access to the property when they needed it, or in any other way not lived up to my end of the bargain, they wouldn't be trying to make the service right. They would decline to provide service until I met their requirements for acquiring service.

 

Vendors have requirements just as customers do. THAT, my friends, is business.

[OneFinger]

>Vendors have requirements just as customers do. THAT, my friends, is business.

 

Well said!! Good analogy, Deej.

 

I'd have no problems telling an escort to take a hike if he wasn't clean and ready for action. The same should apply also for the escort when the client is obviously not prepared.

[Flower]

>What a joke. YOU who acts as a shill for Ethan telling me

>what is up, hahahahahahaha Really? What happened to your

>green font?

>Mark -Kalifornia

 

Again, what is the point to this new post? What does one have to do with the other? You have a habit of spitting out nonsensical stuff thinking that you have made a momentous comment.

I challenge you to explain how this comment of yours makes any sense what so ever. You seem to be a bitter OLD man and it's too bad, cause you probably are much smarter than you appear on here. But I don't think I have ever read a nice or positive statement by you--but regardless, what am I missing here? I challenge you Mr California to explain how your above statement makes sense or is even a reply--in is nonsensical and merely tries to evade the issures. Oh yeah--this green is for you, babe :+

 

Flower :*

[Guest Kalifornia]

>

>As for "it's business" -- consider this: PacBell ROYALLY

>fucked up my order for new phone service this week. I am an

>appropriately irate almost-customer at the moment. They're

>just going to have to put up with my whining. I fulfilled

>every requirement they laid out to be a good customer and

>they stepped on their crank in a big way and continue to do

>so.

>

 

OK I willuse your example. You are 100% right deej. Pacbell fucked up your order and as you say, "They're

>just going to have to put up with my whining."

 

The problem I have with this escort's post is (using your example) we are NOT fucking Pacbell! If he wants to go whine let him do so with the client NOT this enitre forum. Look at his subject line, why should WE give him a break. He thinks he is not a hoe, and yet he is one. HJe thinks because he prefixes his name with escort it is like using sir (as in knighted). It doesn't change a thing. He cannot admit that he and the man on the street have quite a bit in common. They both sell their bodies for sex.

 

I agree that this is a place to share, Logaston, but I hardly think because I am sharing the minority opinion that makes mine any less valid.

 

The woe is me posts from escorts AND clients get really old really fast. Everyone knows to take a shower, everyone knows to turn their cell phone off, yet we have to put up with this guys cry on a shoulder post. WHY? Because he is an escort and basically can post what he likes?

 

I go back to what I said, if he had a bad appointment then that is the price of doing BUSINESS. He gambled and lost that night, if Pizza Hut closes the local location due to poor business that is their fault ... if they close due to a neighbor scaring them off then it is the neighbors fault. Either way it is the risk they take in business.

 

AND there are choices for both escorts and clients. Just turn someone down if they don't meet your standards, don't rant about it like a fucking queen.

 

AND deej there are choices for you. You have several local carriers to chose from.

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[alanalt]

Mark,

 

You also have a choice and that choice is not to read/respond to the posts that don't interest you. If you don't like a little 'whine' with your message board, then the first sentence of the first post "OK....guys, I need to vent." should have warned you to get out.

 

If it's just too hard for you to say 'gee, that's too bad' when a colleague reports a 'rough day on the job', you don't have to make a nasty comment either! You can just say nothing at all (and we won't miss you, I promise }> )

 

Alan

[+ Lucky]

RE: Seeing green

 

How do you get green color on your posts?

[Flower]

RE: Seeing green

 

>How do you get green color on your posts?

 

Now we get to the really important stuff :-)

 

Lucky, you can have any color on your posts you want.

--just click on the "HTML reference" to the left of the white box you type into for posting--

 

this Message comes up: "The M4M ER Message Center

HTML Reference Lookup Table "

Then scroll down to this; "Font Text -- just substitute the color you want for the word "color" in quotes and add a ] bracket after the quotes :+ viola!

Have fun lol

 

Flower :*

[+ deej]

This is such an illogical ramble I can't really find anything to respond to. There really isn't a point to anything you just said ...

 

EXCEPT THIS:

 

>> why should WE give him a break.

 

We should give him a break because he's human and he deserves to be treated with the same respect and dignity you would show to any other human.

 

He had an off night, felt like a rant, and came to one of the few places where it's not only acceptable but encouraged. Taken in that light, the original post on this thread falls exactly into the spirit behind this site.

 

When was your last post that falls into that category?