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[Guest ncm2169]

Hey guyz! After reading the "attitudes about escorts" and "worst nightmare ever" posts, I thought it'd be nice if we turned to some beneficial aspects of escort/client relationships, to wit: do either escorts or clients ever find themselves in a "friendship situation" where the (often) older client takes on a "mentor" role with the escort? (Of course, I'm talking here about people who are relatively sane and mature on both sides):-) It occurs to me that any seriously curious escort who is, say, 18-30, can potentially learn a HELLUVA lot from the life experiences of an equally serious and sharing older client. Of equal interest, I'm curious whether older (I'm talking probably at least 20 years age difference) clients also find that escorts "keep them young"?? Isn't this like the "frosting on the cake" for both parties, i.e., something beyond the $$ for sex bargain?

[Bilbo]

Franco's point on the other thread was more along the lines of how a younger or less experienced client could be helped by an older or more experienced escort. I haven't quite expressed what he was saying either. (It is very close either way to what the Body Electric people mean by Sacred Intimates.) I'm not objecting to us discussing this particular subject again. It just seemed like you might have been misinterpreting Franco.

[Bilbo]

Oops, sorry

 

Now why did I think that you had quoted Franco? It's getting late and I'm giddy from having just written the largest check I ever wrote to cover my dang taxes.

[Guest Collie]

I was so happy to read this posting about client/escort relationship.

I had been celibate for many years, due to fear of diseases and a determination to work hard and make some money. Suddenly I realized that I had more time behind me than I did in front of me. So I decided to find someone to have some fun with. I found an escort in a local gay paper and it has changed my life. There is a twenty year difference in our ages, I being the elder. But this person is a real joy. I have seen him twice a month for six months. I felt he was asking far too little, so I pay him almost twice his asking. He is probably one of the finest people I have met in my life. He is honest, good and generous. I cannot imagine what my life would be like without him now. He calls me to catch up and enjoys my wisdom. I have given him advice on many things which he truly appreciates. He loves the disparity in our ages and flatters me because of what good shape I am in for my age. I am a runner and cyclist, and love to swim.

 

I hope to continue with this person and have already discussed with my lawyer to include him in my will upon my passing. I would not tell him this, but I want to take care of him in any way I can, as he cannot be an escort much longer due to his age, and it would break my heart to think he would have any struggle . He gives of himself fully and has a childlike quality that is absolutely irresistible.

He is the first and only escort I have hired, but I am sure that most of the escorts have the same qualities. I used to know many women who were so called "working girls", and they were the same kind of lovely sensitive people. But I really think that if you are older and use an escort and enjoy them, take good care of them and leave them some money.

[BuckyXTC]

Collie:

 

You're a man after my own heart......my experience is very similar. the main difference being that my escort, while superb at it, didn't really like doing it. I urged him to do something he felt good about, as Joseph Campbell said, "to follow his bliss". He's now pursuing a career that is what he always dreamed of doing. Our escort/client relationship came to an end, but it was the beginnng of one of the best friendships I have ever had. We talk by phone daily, I serve as a mentor of sorts to him, and we bring a great deal of joy to each other's life. We both feel a sense of providence in our paths crossing the way they did, and we're grateful. There's no sexual aspect to our relationship now, but that's fine by me......you can always find a sex partner one way or another, but the kind of friendship we enjoy is a rare gift. He's never asked me for a dime, but I'd gladly give him anything I have. So for all the horror stories out there, and sadly, there are many, I'm glad you shared your happy experience, prompting me to share mine.

[Rick Munroe]

>I really think that if you are older and use an escort

>and enjoy them, take good care of them and leave them some money.

 

Excellent idea! It doesn't have to be just money, though. I'll take stocks or real estate...or Rolling Stones tickets ($2,000 on ebay...can you believe?)

[BuckyXTC]

Ok Rick, I'm putting you in my will.........to see your inheritance, check out the following link:

 

http://www.zetacreations.com/equine.html

 

Hugs & kisses:*

[Rick Munroe]

>to see your inheritance, check out the following link:

 

I don't want to inherit a horse dick dildo!! :o I rarely even get fucked by real dicks...let alone large toys (not by choice...I'm just too good at sucking cock). If I'm being a bottom, my ass gets eaten, and I suck...or, what happens is I usually deep throat while sitting on someone's face. What would I do with that thing?

[BuckyXTC]

>>to see your inheritance, check out the following link:

>

>I don't want to inherit a horse dick dildo!! : What

>would I do with that thing?

 

It might make a nice hat rack, or surely it would be a nice coffee table conversation starter. I'm sure the possibilities are endless.

[BobbyB]

>>>But this person is a real joy. I have seen him twice a month for six >>>months. I felt he was asking far too little, so I pay him almost twice his >>>asking. He is probably one of the finest people I have met in my life.

 

Damn! If he's that fine, I want a couple of those remaining 28 days each month. I need a name, son!!! :7

 

- BobbyB

[Will]

Sure. For me, it can be one of the great joys of the escort/client relationship. There's genuine parity in such a relationship, which offsets the other (interesting) imbalances that give the whole thing its dynamism. I've been a kind of mentor to several escorts, and the quiet mutual satisfaction of it often reminds me of how profoundly *natural* it is for men to develop that unique kind of affection for each other. In Western culture, the Greeks recognized and nourished it; what's often overlooked or even not known is that in Medieval Europe there are documented instances of that particular love between two men. I say "particular" love because in my experience it is utterly unique in psychological and ethical character. The pity is that so many men go through life without ever having had a mentor or having been a mentor. And by "mentor" I don't mean just an advisor. Of course, the huge majority of mentor situations are entirely non-sexual; but the sexual component adds a kind of intimacy and preciousness to the relationship that I've never experienced elsewhere.

 

What's important to remember, though, is this: It is always the case that the younger man approaches the older man for mentoring. If the older man is willing to give it *without any conditions on the younger man's freedom,* and if the younger man is willing to accept the mentoring as a gift and not a reward, then it can be something made in heaven. If ever there should be the sense that either party is exploiting the other, or that their ethical parity is destabilized, then the relationship needs to be repaired or it will be broken forever.

 

I'm speaking here out of thirty years of experience as a mentor. Mostly, I hasten to add, in completely non-sexual situations. But it'ts precisely that that gives the rare instances with escorts their special value.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

What

 

everyone

wants sex but no one

wants to pay for it.

 

http://www.gaydar.co.uk/

francodisantis

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

What's All This About Dong Taxes?

 

I have written about this elsewhere, so I will be mercifully brief. I was kept by an older man and I do believe there is great value in such relationships. While my parents, being European, taught me a great deal about food and, particularly wine, much of what I now know about selecting wines I learned from this man some 15 years ago (he was a importer of fine spirits and his family owned a chain of Cost Plus-type places which predominated with alcoholic beverages).

 

However, the friendships I have presently, except one, I have formed with clients who are my peers and I believe rather than mentoring me, as in any good friendships, we share our experiences and knowledge with one another as our needs and the situation before us may require. I have essentially been providing companion services to one client who is 27, who can barely afford to hire me for an hour, and we have spent several hours together, once just eating dinner at his house (my next project is to work on teaching him how to prepare more interesting food) and watching Sex In The City. I am not old enough to mentor him and, in any event, he provides the assistance I may need on my computer that I used to get from the Tech Geek Twink Ho, who no longers lives in the Los Angeles area. He also has a medical background and we tend to discuss those issues as well, so while not quite a relationship of full equilibrium, I do not feel like his mentor nor do I believe he sees me that way.

 

My oldest client was 74, a great gentlemen with wonderful stories in who lives Palm Springs - I like to think he viewed me as his equal and I know he thinks of me as a friend. We stopped the client/escort relationship some months ago.

 

I believe it is possible for escort to become friends with current or former clients, but as has been pointed out by my of the clients here elsewhere and a few of the escorts, it is important that these friendships be based on genuine regard, concern and affection for one another, as opposed to any misplaced romantic interest. Also, as gay men have proven over countless decades, the fact that the relationship began sexually is NOT a hinderance to a genuine friendship.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

sorry

 

Darn Eros. It sticks to everything. . . .