Hot Vid Of David & Roman?

[doitb4ugo]

Wowee

 

Hey NYTomcat, If you can play body double for Romann.....woof..woof. Maybe you should join the business end of this and make a side-trip to Boston. Anyone can be a fluffer..but getting the job is another thing.

[+ Lucky]

What's Classy in an Escort?

 

If the issue is how the escort presents himself to potential clients, then porno works for some and may not work for others. Reviews themselves, for that matter, may not always work for everyone as some might be turned off by the behavior described in them. What's classy sex for one is not classy for another, at least some of the time. I loved fosterchow's review of Benjamin Nicholas, but others were grossed out by the behavior described. It didn't bother me!

[Guest ChgoBoy]

I loved fosterchow's review of Benjamin Nicholas, but others were grossed out by the behavior described. It didn't bother me!

 

IIRC, It wasn't that so many people were "grossed out" by this escorts behavior as much as some were outraged by the fact that this escort states safer sex only on his escort profiles, while the review by fosterchow clearly indicated otherwise.

[MsGuy]

Not really

 

It wasn't that ... as much as some were outraged by...

 

That kind of analysis makes out the whole BN meltdown to be far simpler and more rational than it was.

[jimboivyo]

IIRC, It wasn't that so many people were "grossed out" by this escorts behavior as much as some were outraged by the fact that this escort states safer sex only on his escort profiles, while the review by fosterchow clearly indicated otherwise.

 

Bullshit. Another instance of a lie being told so much that people begin to believe it as truth. Read the review carefully, the 'unsafe' activity never happens, as taking a dildo from your own ass into your own mouth is NOT considered unsafe activity. That's the bottom line, so quit the BS and stop the smear campaign. Benjamin is not only a safe sex only guy, but one of the few escorts I've known to get tested on a monthly basis. Very, very responsible.

 

The meltdown of BN was a short lived instance. He bounced back, learned his lesson and came out the other side not worse for the wear. It's the only dead horse some of you have to beat, but luckily, Ben knows better than to come back here and deal with the negativity.

[MsGuy]

Sorry, unintended ambiguity on my part

 

 

The meltdown of BN was a short lived instance. He bounced back, learned his lesson and came out the other side not worse for the wear.

 

By the phrase 'BN meltdown' I meant to encompass events here on this board, not Mr. Nicholas' personal reaction to the circumstances leading to his redaction of certain posts on his blog, 15minutesmore. I have never met him and have no knowledge of how those circumstances may have impacted his life.

 

My post was intended be a comment on our reactions, not his.

[NYTomcat]

By the phrase 'BN meltdown' I meant to encompass events here on this board, not Mr. Nicholas' personal reaction to the circumstances leading to his redaction of certain posts on his blog, 15minutesmore. I have never met him and have no knowledge of how those circumstances may have impacted his life.

 

My post was intended be a comment on our reactions, not his.

 

MS Guy One thing I must say. You are the definition of class

[+ glutes]

Bullshit. Another instance of a lie being told so much that people begin to believe it as truth. Read the review carefully, the 'unsafe' activity never happens, as taking a dildo from your own ass into your own mouth is NOT considered unsafe activity. That's the bottom line, so quit the BS and stop the smear campaign. Benjamin is not only a safe sex only guy, but one of the few escorts I've known to get tested on a monthly basis. Very, very responsible.

 

If Been-Jamin is such a practitioner of safe sex, why does he have to get tested on a monthly basis?

[+ sf westcoaster]

Time To End The Thread

 

Isn't it time to put this thread to rest? About the last thing we need is another BN discussion.

[+ Lucky]

Because it is the responsible thing to do, and it does tell clients that the person is interested in his health, which may influence them in their hiring decision. Accidents do happen, glutes.

[+ David-SF]

This thread is in the toilet !!

 

One thing I love about this MC is that there are so many passionate folks here.

informed, smart, clever,

 

One thing I hate about this MC is the bashing of escorts or posters in anyway.

 

If BN name comes up all the claws come out to smash him down.

apparently by folks that have never hired nor met him.

 

I guess there is some blog somewhere that he likes to write about people and places and things he does or like and dislikes etc...

 

apparently he has some pretty nasty things to say about folks and takes no prisoners

 

FYI

His blog is not who he is its another marketing tool a good one at that.

 

Case in point:

He wrote in it about the aids lifecycle & a rider who is an escort & has videos on his site where guys swallow cum during oral sex.

(hmm wonder who that could be)

 

he wrote about how tacky and hipocritical it was for someone that "Wh*res around at night" and how it was a PR ploy

(seems to work )

 

obviously he does not visit my site but was given this information by another ALC rider or poster on this board because the video that he was reffering to has been pulled for over a year.

 

unless he is talking about an even older video with my long term partner

but that wouldnt make any sense either.

 

(another escort calling an escort a Wh**r* is just about as rich as it gets)

 

nevertheless the following day $8000 in donations posted to my lifecyle page.

 

I am forever grateful to BN for his marketing and San Francisco Aids foundation would like to thank him too.

 

sorry for the hijack but I thought it would be interesting to note, I am sure BN will be happy he is now a major fundraiser for such a worthy cause.

 

I think he is very sexxy I have met many men who have hire him (for an hour or an overnight) they all say the same thing.

 

"He is a very sweet down to earth guy and is a joy to be with."

 

so if you have not hired him why would you rip him apart publicly.

[jimboivyo]

David, in a mighty backhanded way, is right. Let's kill this before it turns into another thread capable of shutting down the message center for a week. There are a lot of us who care and love Benjamin and there are some, who usually haven't met him, that would rather just bitch about what they've been told. There's room for all of us to (sorta) peacefully coexist.

 

David- I'm not sure if it was you he was talking about, but BN does touch on a lot of folks on 15mm, both good and bad. Glad you got positive effects from it. As you said above, there IS a big difference in the character who writes the blog and who he actually is. I think that's the case with any writer out there.

[Guest ChgoBoy]

Bullshit. Read the review carefully, the 'unsafe' activity never happens, as taking a dildo from your own ass into your own mouth is NOT considered unsafe activity.

 

I have no interest in hijacking this thread from the OP thoughts. It’s an interesting conversation and read. But just a point or two for clarification, if I may.

 

I also have no interest in schooling anyone in safer/unsafe sex practices here. Everyone engaging in any type of sex should be at least able to weigh risk versus pleasure. There will always be those with a more, and yes, conversely less, evolved and informed knowledge of what constitutes safer sex. Safer sex, for whatever the reason, seems to be a term wrapped up and packaged exclusively in the fight against HIV. It really is not. It covers a wide range of infectious disease which I’m sure you are all, or should be aware of.

 

Any physician worth his salt, will tell you that ass to mouth sex is unsafe, whether or not it is mutually exclusive to only one partner or not. The activities that can, and did occur here afterward, present a high risk of transmission of a number of serious infections.

 

The two events, the fosterchow review ( which has now been deleted); discussed at great length here and at other web forums, and the great plagiarism, which jimboivyo speaks of here were two separate events. Both unrelated and occurring in different years.

 

I applaud Benjamin Nicholas if he is getting tested every month, if that is what he does indeed do. It shows integrity and responsibility on his part, not only for himself, but for those that he sees professionally.

[RockHard]

Keeping it real.

 

Last edited by 8inchtool...Reason: Thay = they cuz Im igorant arghh !!!

 

A typo never indicates ignorance. Typing accidents happen. Your writing style, on the other hand, suggests English was not your favorite subject in grade school. Even though I wish you wouldn't treat every sentence as its own paragraph and your spelling and punctuation would improve, we all know being a good escort does not require educated writing skills. After all, this board knows a few escorts who know how to write but none of their writing skill hides their contempt for the client. David, I sense no contempt from you, which by default makes you sexy. I'll take a sexy escort with lousy writing skills who loves his clients any day over an A+ English Lit major with contempt.

 

One thing I love about this MC is that there are so many passionate folks here.

informed, smart, clever...

 

Clever is the decisive word here. Not everyone is who he claims to be. (Me excluded, of course.)

 

apparently he has some pretty nasty things to say

 

Much like your sex video with Romann, "nasty" is in the eyes of the beholder.

 

the video that he was reffering to has been pulled for over a year.

 

It doesn't matter when the video was pulled. If ever in your history as an escort you are filmed being careless with cum, the audience perception will be that you practice unsafe sex. Reviews are just words. No one can take them for fact. Capturing live action on camera gives you no place to hide. When you pulled the video doesn't negate its existence.

 

unless he is talking about an even older video with my long term partner

 

Your "long term" partner can't save you here. He comes with a sexual history that none of us will ever know and we're not purchasing time with you based on his reviews or proclamations of safety. Time to put your thinking cap on.

 

(another escort calling an escort a Wh**r* is just about as rich as it gets)

 

No different that one actor criticizing another. And that happens all the time, granted, mostly in private. Escorting doesn't play by normal rules of decorum.

 

if you have not hired him why would you rip him apart publicly

 

Some escorts come with big egos. Big egos tend to enjoy the art of flaunt. Some customers view the art of flaunt as a form of contempt or, at the very least, condescension. Men who pay for sex tend to be hyper sensitive. And when they feel belittled or played, in any way, their attack mode is like no other.

[+ David-SF]

CUM cum now Rockhard

 

It doesn't matter when the video was pulled. If ever in your history as an escort you are filmed being careless with cum, the audience perception will be that you practice unsafe sex. Reviews are just words. No one can take them for fact. Capturing live action on camera gives you no place to hide. When you pulled the video doesn't negate its existence

 

I have no qualms about my history of how I have handle cum.

 

I wonder who this audience might be that their perception would be what you believe it to be.

 

If a person believes for themselves that oral sex with ejaculation in the mouth is unsafe thats their business.

 

I highly doubt a blanket statement like that accounts for an entire viewership.

 

I was pointing out that his resource was a flawed.

He chose to make a blog in an underhanded way to try to take down another escorts character. No surprise there he makes a practice of it to draw attention to his site.

 

More importantly that its does not represent who he is as an escort or a person.

 

Often times what happens when this sort of thing takes place is the reverse of the intention.

 

my post had really nothing to do with the sexual practice that I paticipated in with another person on video.

 

For some reason you may have the idea that I may be ashamed of it somehow and want to hide it.

 

Absolutely not so.

 

On the other hand I do see where you would think that from my further defense with my long term partner. poor choice on my part for certain.

it did make it seem that way.

 

oh the scandle of it all.............. David swallowed cum. ewwwwwww

 

Finally I know my writing skills are deplorable its not news to me or anyone else here I apologize for that.

 

I just do the best I can with what I have and wing the rest.

 

At this time I officailly bow out with a hug and a kiss to this long played out thread and thank you all for your generous particpation

 

WHEW!! its getting sticky in here.

[+ Lucky]

I bow out too.

[JackTwist]

Just my two cents:

 

David-sf and Romann: keep up your good work and the service you provide, continue to take the high road, don't let the haters get you down. every successful businessman knows the higher you rise, the more often someone will be hoping to see you fail. never let them get you down, guys.

 

While posting your hot sex video on free sites has served you well, you could easily charge a nominal viewing fee (on your own websites) for any future videos and bank serious cash, rather than just giving it away. And, congratulations on achieving 6 million web hits...doesn't that put you up there in a league with Susan Boyle and William Hung? by the way, at least one million of those hits have come from my computer, from me watching it over and over and over!

 

Keep smiling, fucking and innovating gentlemen. the future of hot, professional male escorting is all YOURS.

[RockHard]

Honesty is sexy.

 

I highly doubt a blanket statement like that accounts for an entire viewership.

My bad. I could have said that better. I did not mean to suggest "entire viewership." I meant to suggest a percentage of your audience. Without doing a poll, it's impossible to know these numbers.

 

I have no qualms about my history of how I have handle cum.

 

I don't have any qualms, either. Keep in mind, I tend to view all publicity from a business point of view and like to play most gambles on their safer side.

 

For some reason you may have the idea that I may be ashamed of it somehow and want to hide it.

 

I try not to assume anything. I don't really know you well and I can only go by what you write. Some of your words sounded defensive to me.

 

oh the scandle of it all.............. David swallowed cum. ewwwwwww

 

Scandal? I think cum in the mouth is hot but in this age of AIDS, it's a risky behavior. HIV aside, chlamydia is one of the most common sexually transmitted diseases in the US and giving a blow job (which doesn't require cum) is a simple way to contract this std. I don't think there's much scandal with an escort who plays loose with health concerns. They seem pretty common. But such activity (publicly viewed) will turn off a segment of the audience. Clearly, you're OK with that and so am I.

 

No matter how ridiculous the fantasy sounds, some guys want to believe their sex with escorts is always safe, regardless of the truth, even when safe practices aren't observed. When men are hit with a visual dose of reality, the truth can scare many of them away. And maybe this isn't a bad thing.

 

I just do the best I can with what I have (writing skill) and wing the rest.

 

I'm always grateful to hear from the escorts, especially the escorts who enjoy bringing joy to other men. Thank you for your contributions.

[NYTomcat]

David, in a mighty backhanded way, is right. Let's kill this before it turns into another thread capable of shutting down the message center for a week. There are a lot of us who care and love Benjamin and there are some, who usually haven't met him, that would rather just bitch about what they've been told. There's room for all of us to (sorta) peacefully coexist.

 

David- I'm not sure if it was you he was talking about, but BN does touch on a lot of folks on 15mm, both good and bad. Glad you got positive effects from it. As you said above, there IS a big difference in the character who writes the blog and who he actually is. I think that's the case with any writer out there.

 

Really so there can be a difference between the character or the writing and that of the writer. Like the difference between the class of a film and the class of the actors in the film? Is that a fair assumption?

[NYTomcat]

david. thanks

 

Finally I know my writing skills are deplorable its not news to me or anyone else here I apologize for that.

 

I just do the best I can with what I have and wing the rest.

 

At this time I officailly bow out with a hug and a kiss to this long played out thread and thank you all for your generous particpation

 

WHEW!! its getting sticky in here.

 

David I do Not care about your writing style. Your words are witty, on point, have an edge and most of all are well thought out. To me that is the measure of your intellect. Formal English education aside. So no more self depreciation. Apologize not we applaud who you are. I think Jim made my point about class and character so I bow out as well. With a nod to all you very classy gentlemen.

[Guest ChgoBoy]

A typo never indicates ignorance. Typing accidents happen. Your writing style, on the other hand, suggests English was not your favorite subject in grade school. Even though I wish you wouldn't treat every sentence as its own paragraph and your spelling and punctuation would improve, we all know being a good escort does not require educated writing skills. After all, this board knows a few escorts who know how to write but none of their writing skill hides their contempt for the client. David, I sense no contempt from you, which by default makes you sexy. I'll take a sexy escort with lousy writing skills who loves his clients any day over an A+ English Lit major with contempt.

 

Clever is the decisive word here. Not everyone is who he claims to be. (Me excluded, of course.)

 

Much like your sex video with Romann, "nasty" is in the eyes of the beholder.

 

It doesn't matter when the video was pulled. If ever in your history as an escort you are filmed being careless with cum, the audience perception will be that you practice unsafe sex. Reviews are just words. No one can take them for fact. Capturing live action on camera gives you no place to hide. When you pulled the video doesn't negate its existence.

 

Your "long term" partner can't save you here. He comes with a sexual history that none of us will ever know and we're not purchasing time with you based on his reviews or proclamations of safety. Time to put your thinking cap on.

 

No different that one actor criticizing another. And that happens all the time, granted, mostly in private. Escorting doesn't play by normal rules of decorum.

 

Some escorts come with big egos. Big egos tend to enjoy the art of flaunt. Some customers view the art of flaunt as a form of contempt or, at the very least, condescension. Men who pay for sex tend to be hyper sensitive. And when they feel belittled or played, in any way, their attack mode is like no other.

 

Perhaps it's just me. But as much as I enjoy Rockhard's dissection of another posters post, here and other wise placed, I just cant help myself from feeling what hell it must have been for Oscar Madison to have lived with Felix Unger.

 

Seriously now, Is there anything that Rockhard is not imperious to when it comes to sharing his life with us?

 

Can you even begin to imagine what sharing space might be with him?

 

<HONK> lol

 

As much as Rockhard attempts (or perhaps is) to be the Felix Unger of today, If I were subjected to his honkiness on a live in basis, I'd be at the end of a rope.

 

Thank God he's "always grateful to hear from the escorts, especially the escorts who enjoy bringing joy to other men."

 

And thank God there are people like David, who are able to do what they do, in spite of the people like him......

[Guy Fawkes]

Daddy Sez: "This has drifted far enough... Thread locked..."