Cancellation Fees

[Rick Munroe]

>Rick: I don't know why you even attempt to dignify the

>topic by replying.

 

Well, I had a free evening with nothing good on TV, Derek was working, friends were out partying, and the computer lured me into its tangled web. Plus, I got a great new dictionary program & I was dying for a reason to use my word-of-the-day ("volitionally"). I'd also just shot a pretty sizeable load with a yummy Latin boy I brought home from the gym so my mind was free to wander away from thoughts of cocks & asses.

 

>your glorious butt :-) which I still intend to

>give a tongue bath.

 

I'm always ready for that! :9

[Guest]

> After he then cancelled that job (and after I'd spent

>considerable time reserving a hotel room for us & planning a

>weekend of activities, at his request)

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>>but always with a substantial amount of notice rather than at the

>>last moment.

>

>Wrong again. The third cancellation was done at the last

>minute, before a weekend that was set aside for him by both

>Derek and me.

 

 

I'll stand corrected on the $1200 versus $1500 (it has been many months since the exchange). Nevertheless, how long can it take the reserve a hotel room and plan a "week-end of activities"? I can't imagine it would take an hour. To call that a "considerable" amount of time is a little bit more off base than Regulation's referring to three cancellations as "a couple."

In all of the hundreds of postings on this topic, in a number of strings, this is the first time you've denied NiceGuy/John's claim that he gave you "weeks' notice" (NG's words). Of course, "last minute" can mean anything in geologic terms. The amount of notice NG gave you was repeatedly mentioned in arguments against you (supported by more than just me and Regulation--it was running about 50/50), and yet you've never denied the "weeks' notice" until now.

Be that as it may, you're still not denying that you've kept $1200 for little more than reserving a hotel room and "planning" some activities. The people responding to this string's original poster and some of those responding to NG's may be different, but I'm still struck that anyone would condone your keeping $1200 for your cancellation and not for someone given 4 hours' notice.

[Guest regulation]

>but I found the whole thing pretty funny

 

Indeed? Is that why you emailed Boston Guy (according to him) that he should "mind his own business" after he posted that he agreed with some of your critics?

 

 

>while the posts calling

>me a crook & a hustler were mostly written by 2 people:

>regulation and unicorn.

 

That is a lie. I defy you to find a single post by me in that or any other thread calling you any such thing.

 

>No. It was more than a couple of times. First of all . . .

 

The account you posted following the above phrase differs in only very minor ways from what I (and also Nice Guy) said about these events.

 

 

>Wrong again. The third cancellation was done at the last

>minute, before a weekend that was set aside for him by both

>Derek and me.

 

 

Please define "at the last minute." Was it a day before? Longer? Shorter?

 

>>Ultimately the client requested the return of his deposit

>>and after many acrimonious exchanges you offered $600.00.

 

>Wrong again. There were no "acrimonious exchanges." John

>Williams claimed this was the case, and claimed he was going

>to publish these emails, but never did because they don't

>exist.

 

They don't? Then how is that TruthTeller, whom you described as a good friend, claimed in that very thread that he had read these "nonexistent" emails and that they supported your account of the affair? You mean he just made all of that up? I am shocked!

 

 

>He wrote demanding the money; I wrote that I wanted

>to settle this amicably, and that since the whole point of

>sending me the deposit was to persuade me to continually

>rebook knowing he wouldn't flake again & that I'd be

>compensated if he did, I thought $600 would be fair, and

>asked what he thought. His response was, "You can keep $200

>and pay me $1000 by Friday or I'll do whatever I can to

>damage your reputation by posting the whole thing on

>Hooboy." I wrote back that I refused to be blackmailed or

>extorted, and that my reputation as an honest businessperson

>would speak for itself.

 

 

My goodness, I don't know how I could have been so misguided as to describe the above exchanges as "acrimonious." On further consideration they seem quite friendly, don't they? Friends often accuse each other of extortion, isn't that so? :-)

 

>>A number of posters did indeed defend your refusal to return the

>>deposit but many of them did so not because they think cancellation

>>fees are a good idea but because (according to them) anyone who

>>gives an escort money up front is a fool and deserves to lose his

>>dough.

>

>Actually, that was pretty much just your and unicorn's

>opinions. Most of the others seemed to think I got dicked

>around. Most people didn't feel he was unwise to insist I

>cash the check.

 

I stand by my characterization of what was said in the thread and invite any interested persons to refer to it in the archives. I believe the title is "Rick Munroe - Escort or Hustler?" The thread author is the poster "Nice Guy." Enjoy!

 

 

>>Did you actually give Nice Guy any of the money back or did you keep

>>the entire amount?

>

>Do you actually ever hire escorts or do you just live

>vicariously through the rest of us?

 

I take it from your decision to dodge the question that Nice Guy is still out the entire $1,200.00. This is indeed a cautionary tale for anyone who would consider giving an escort money in advance.

[Guest seraph250]

>Be that as it may, you're still not denying that you've kept

>$1200 for little more than reserving a hotel room and

>"planning" some activities. The people responding to this

>string's original poster and some of those responding to

>NG's may be different, but I'm still struck that anyone

>would condone your keeping $1200 for your cancellation and

>not for someone given 4 hours' notice.

 

 

I read something about this in one of the later threads. It was not clear whether the escort kept $1200 or $600, but either sounds unreasonable. Would any of his clients agree to pay him either amount for just making some reservations? I wouldn't. I think the client in this case had every right to feel that he was taken advantage of.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>I think the client in this case had every right to feel that he was taken advantage of.

 

WRONG - Ir is my understanding that the whole scenario played out over a period of 2 years, largely due to the client being undecisive. If you (a) pay $1200 in advance and (b) take 2 years to dither over it, them it is your loss. Was Rick 100% correct in what he did? Who knows! If I were Rick I'd be pissed off after 2 years too.

 

All this discussion at this point is like reading an 10 year old issue of TIME - like who cares?

 

Why don't we drop it and move on to something interesting - like straight bosses who provide extra beds in the master bedroom for their gay employees to watch from. Now THAT's what I think is important - not Rick's $1200 trick ;-)

 

Thunderbuns

[bluenix]

>...and move on to something interesting -

>like straight bosses who provide extra beds in the master

>bedroom for their gay employees to watch from...

 

TB, wake up. That was a troll.

 

Carry on.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Common Courtesy

 

I have never met Rick Munroe, Regulation is admittedly no fan of mine but then again neither is Thunderbuns but after avoiding this topic beyond looking at the many post, I would finally like to "chime in."

 

I will preface this by saying I just woke up from a nap and only logged on to the board to look for the web site link of an escort here who just wrote me a nice e-mail about my new picture site. I could avoid the other boards, but like a drug addict with a bad habit, I saw some new comments and could not help myself. Just picture me, without a dictionary, repeating to myself over and over: UGH!

 

Last weekend, after any number of phone calls, repeated exchanged of IMs, repeated sending of photographs (unsolicited by me for those who care), a client arrived in Los Angeles so that I could meet him at a very nice hotel, we spent the agreed upon time, I was late, he needed me at the hotel after 11:00 p.m. to avoid a family member traveling with him in order to keep the incident from his partner back home. In typical fashion, at a certain point I trusted this client enough to give him both my home phone and the cell phone I use when I travel. This cell phone is not published. Only one of the Twink Hos has it, and my best friend as well as most of my friends do not.

 

This gentlemen travels for business, was staying at a very nice hotel with data port and extra phone lines in each room, had a very expensive and very good quality lap top with him. I admit I forgot the poppers, which I had purchased for him and for which he was to reimburse me (his offer, I tend to provide them as a courtesy to my clients but then again, I keep the bottle, he was going to keep it). We proceeded to do out business, over three hours, for which he received a discounted rate. He was to hire me for two additional days last week in Palm Springs.

 

The next day, Monday, he both sent me an IM on his AOL account and an e-mail, reminding me to send him my numbers again. He had provided me with his cell phone. I telephone him to give him the numbers orally and he answered the phone, said he could not talk ("sis" was right next to him), would I please send them to him by e-mail. I immediately logged on and did so.

 

The next day, I woke up, packed and drove to Palm Springs. I turned down clients on line and kept waiting to hear from my client. At about 5 p.m. I started to try his cell phone. No answer, no answering machine, no voice mail. No recorded message. Later that night, at about 10:00 p.m., I finally got a prerecorded message: the _______ (carrier) customer is not within the coverage area, etc.. I checked the status on my e-mail, it had not been open or checked. I finally agreed to see a different client at 12:30 a.m., 90 minutes after I was supposed to see my original client. At 2 a.m. I finally got to bed, still no call, my e-mail still unread.

 

The next morning I awoke and wrote him a polite note stating, you have clearly changed your mind about me or outside forces have forced you to be unable to keep our scheduled our confirmed appointments. I simply wish you had been able to tell me this before I drove the two hours each way to Palm Springs. I "unsent" and deleted the earlier message. He finally read this second e-mail three days later, when according to the original schedule he gave me, he would be back in the Midwestern state he is from.

 

I was certainly well paid for my time on Sunday. I certainly could have requested money from him in advance of driving to Palm Springs and I certainly could have been more assertive about having him confirm the appointment for the umpteenth time on Monday afternoon when I got him on the telephone. I did none of those things. It is not my style nor practice to be aggressive with my clients or to be demanding. I also take people at their word.

 

I spent money, time, opportunity costs and wear and tear in driving back and forth. Due to my own stupidity, I also forgot $300+ worth of concert tickets here and had to come back Thursday night and then return back within an hour to Los Angeles with the tickets. The whole incident did not make me a very "happy camper."

 

Am I owed a "cancellation fee?" I would certainly think so. I have neithe requested it nor would I do so. If this client contacts me again, something he stated several times at the end of our session Sunday night as well as implied the next day, I will point this out to him and charge him a regular hourly rate, with no discount, in advance, something I rarely do and am very loathe to do. At minimum, since he has read my e-mail, I believe I am owed the courtesy of an explanation, if not an apology. None has been forthcoming in the three days since he read my e-mail. More likely than not, absent an apology and explanation, I will simply suggest he try another escort and wish him luck with that gentlemen.

 

I also wish to add for the record, irrespective of what happened with Rick Munroe, if the incident happened over two years and the post arose from a threat from the client two years after he insisted that Rick deposit the fee, I think some remuneration is called for. Beyond that, and in particular the actual amount, is not something I care to comment on, but to bring up an old topic at such a late date is the type of behavior on this board which drives the escorts and certain client posters away.

 

If you wish to have a discussion board where a very select few people post much of what is said, that is where you have been and are headed in the few months I have participated. I do not see where this promotes healthy dialogue, genuine exchange, or good communication. Often it simply discourages individuals and limits their participation. If I wanted to simply hear my own thoughts and those who agreed completely with me, I would stick to my own thoughts and reconsider the time and energy this discussion board takes. If I wanted endless arguments, the Twink Hos are always happy to endlessly discuss the boyfriend and clients whom they felt mistreated them.

[Guest seraph250]

RE: Common Courtesy

 

> but to bring up an old topic at such a late date

>is the type of behavior on this board which drives the

>escorts and certain client posters away.

 

It seems to me this is a risk escorts take if they want to use the message center to promote their business.

 

 

>If you wish to have a discussion board where a very select

>few people post much of what is said, that is where you have

>been and are headed in the few months I have participated.

>I do not see where this promotes healthy dialogue, genuine

>exchange, or good communication. Often it simply

>discourages individuals and limits their participation.

 

I think each poster should decide how often he wants to post. You are one of the more frequent posters. If you think having a lot of posts created by a few people is a bad thing you can limit your own posts. But if it ends up that a lot of posts are created by a few people, that is the result of the choices everyone makes to post or not post. That is the way a message board is supposed to work.

[Guest seraph250]

>If you (a) pay $1200 in advance and

>(b) take 2 years to dither over it, them it is your loss.

 

I never heard of that rule. If it is one of the escort's rules then he could have told the client about it at the start and the whole problem would never have developed.

 

>Was Rick 100% correct in what he did? Who knows! If I were

>Rick I'd be pissed off after 2 years too.

 

If he really got $1200 for doing nothing then I don't know why he would be mad.

 

>All this discussion at this point is like reading an 10 year

>old issue of TIME - like who cares?

>

>Why don't we drop it and move on to something interesting -

>like straight bosses who provide extra beds in the master

>bedroom for their gay employees to watch from. Now THAT's

>what I think is important - not Rick's $1200 trick ;-)

 

Why don't we drop it. The reason I don't drop it is because the issue of cancellation fees interests me. I once had an escort try to get me to pay a fee for cancelling. The escort here says he doesn't charge cancellation fees but then he keeps the money because he says the appointment was cancelled at the last minute, so which is it?

 

I don't know what the reason is that you don't drop it. You say you don't care about it but you keep talking about it so there must be some reason.

[Guest]

RE: Common Courtesy

 

I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you. For someone to have you drive all the way from LA to PS and back without so much as a courtesy to cancel is unbelievably rude. I would be totally livid if I were in your shoes. And you're certainly entitled to compensation in my mind.

I think even you would agree, however, that there's a world of difference between what you went through and what RM went through. And I doubt you would believe RM should be compensated $1200 for making a reservation, and "planning a week-end."

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Posts

 

>I think each poster should decide how often he wants to

>post. You are one of the more frequent posters. If you

>think having a lot of posts created by a few people is a bad

>thing you can limit your own posts. But if it ends up that

>a lot of posts are created by a few people, that is the

>result of the choices everyone makes to post or not post.

>That is the way a message board is supposed to work.

 

My post in the last six weeks have been averaging about 5 a week. I would not call that frequent.

 

I do not think my posts need to be limited.

 

My point was that a few individuals continue to rehash items well past their "freshness" date and endless argue, as I have said before, about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

 

Another one of my points was that argumentative posts, posts which attach others, posts which take a select set of words from one person to attach, however subtle or broad, is exactly the type of behavior which give casual users pause. Yes, it does become a matter of "choice." A "choice" not to open oneself for attack. This limits the exchange of ideas and the free and open expression of thought. THAT IS THE POINT OF A DISCUSSION and MOST ASSUREDLY the point of a discussion board.

[Guest regulation]

RE: Posts

 

>My post in the last six weeks have been averaging about 5 a

>week. I would not call that frequent.

 

I would. Five per week is certainly more frequent than most.

 

>I do not think my posts need to be limited.

 

I agree with seraph250 that that is a decision each poster should make for himself.

 

>My point was that a few individuals continue to rehash items

>well past their "freshness" date and endless argue, as I

>have said before, about how many angels can dance on the

>head of a pin.

 

That phrase about angels is an English idiom referring to a point that is so technical and obscure that it is of no real interest to anyone. It doesn't apply to this discussion -- as Rick pointed out, the original thread started by Nice Guy on Rick's refusal to return his money became the longest single thread anyone can remember. It is not, as he said, because a couple of people kept arguing about it. If you check the thread, you will find comments by as large and diverse a group of posters as have ever appeared here for one thread. Counting that thread, this is the fourth or fifth thread about cancellation fees that I can recall. Obviously this is an issue of continuing interest to a number of people.

 

>Another one of my points was that argumentative posts, posts

>which attach others, posts which take a select set of words

>from one person to attach, however subtle or broad, is

>exactly the type of behavior which give casual users pause.

>Yes, it does become a matter of "choice." A "choice" not to

>open oneself for attack. This limits the exchange of ideas

>and the free and open expression of thought. THAT IS THE

>POINT OF A DISCUSSION and MOST ASSUREDLY the point of a

>discussion board.

 

As someone who has been attacked by you in exactly the manner you are now complaining about, I don't think you are in any position to complain about that sort of behavior. If you think it is wrong, don't do it. If you are going to do it, and you certainly have in the past, don't be such a hypocrite as to criticize others for doing the exact same thing you've done.

[Guest JustANametoPlay]

RE: Common Courtesy

 

And I doubt you would believe RM should be

>compensated $1200 for making a reservation, and "planning a

>week-end."

 

 

Actually I think Rick has stated the facts fairly well in this case, and he certainly doesn't need my help in explaining himself, but what the heck, I am bored.

 

Rick has ALWAYS acted in a professional and courteous manner on these baords. I have only spent one session with over a year ago, but still remember it with a smile. He is excellent at what he does. His postings here have shown him to be a pretty decent guy (although I am sure he has many fault which poor Derek could list).

 

I made the point that in general I don't believe in fees, with some exceptions. I am one that always says you have to read posts here with agrain of salt since none of us really know each other. Posters have to earn each others "trust" and Rick has never done or posted or said anything that would not entitle him tobe trusted unlike the actual person who posted about him and the alleged scam.

[Guest LG320126]

RE: Posts

 

There is a time to talk and a time to listen. I have read some of your posts and IMHO, you need to listen more and talk less.

[duke37]

RE: Common Courtesy

 

I want to expand (and agree) on what JANTP says in the previous post. The subject of Rick and Nice Guy is pretty well documented here. Regulation kindly pointed out the thread. If after reading that and all of his reviews and all of the content Rick has added to the message center, you don't want to hire him well ok don't hire him. If you decide you don't like him for his persona and participation here on the board again feel free to not like him. Not required at all. But it would be fair to the author of this thread to focus on his topic. All of the new people now know the Rick Munroe flap exists. They can check it out if they want.

 

As for Unicorns shock at how the message center has chosen to participate in a thread, I would point out the composition of members here (and that actively participate) is far different than when this thread ran its course. Probably not a good idea to draw too much of a conclusion from the amount of interest or noninterest a topic generates.

 

As for the matter of cancellation fees, nice to see a topic that seraph250 IS interested in. I have only cancelled an appt. once and on fairly short notice. But it was with someone I had been with a few times. I felt very badly about it and was very apologetic and offered to make it up somehow. Of course the escort was gracious about it and we rescheduled. Ironically the escort had to cancel our date the next time so we laughed and called it even. In a more general sense I took a pass on hiring someone who I had been in touch with who was going to be in my area who I encourged to try and visit my area. It wasn't a good time for me and I explained it to him and that was the end of it. Should I been obliged to book a session? I felt some moral obligation but we had not set up a specific date and I hope to make it up to the escort soon.

 

Cancellation fees sound like one of those things that sound like a good idea but don't work and are usually unenforceable. The very fact that they are usually impossible to implement makes them only good for pissing people off. However we regularly see people want to go down the same blind alley. Escorts ( who prob. get the brunt of this) get stood up and some new ones think this is a way to discourage crank clients. Unfortunately unlike hotels they dont get a credit card in advance. And clients who have been stood up one too many times would love to have a tool to bash the guy who stood them up. Well we have a better tool here. So if you get stood up or dicked around you can spread the word. Hopefully we keep as many people as possible here and active on this board so this has a chance to work.

 

Jeff

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Limiting myself to this thread

 

1. I do not believe in cancellation fees.

 

2. Cancellation fees are unenforceable, other than in an agency situation. Even then I would not believe in them, I would simply either not use the agency (if the client) or not book an appointment with the client in the future (if the agency).

 

3. There are legitimate times when an escort or the client may have legitimate gripes about one another due to a problem occasioned by one to the other. Unless you are a fly on the wall, all you can do is offer your opinion. Endless arguing about these opinions rarely resolves the underlying dilemma for either the escort or client. At best, being made aware of these situations makes both the clients and the escorts aware of potential problems. As human beings, we are all entitled to make mistakes. Hopefully, we learn from them and [g]go forward[/b], something which is rarely accomplished from ceaselessly argumentative posts.

 

4. I am not particularly interested in defending Rick, his client, or in looking for a thread. I have no desire to hire him, were I a client nor do I believe we would have clients in common. To spend a great deal of time and energy on something which does not answer the specific poster's question is both a waste of time and nonproductive.

Yes, I am well aware that I have been accused of this myself and yes, I am well aware that I have done it myself. Judge me on my recent past not every single post. I do not judge others by what they wrote two months ago, though you may certainly take a cumulative effect into account.

[Rick Munroe]

1. I don't charge cancellation fees or advance deposits.

 

2. I never said we (Derek and I) deserved any amount of money for planning activities or as a last-minute cancellation fee. What I said was that the money was supposed to be a guarantee of future employment, and to allow him to continue to book & cancel appointments, and that it was all his idea.

 

3. 58 posts (out of 191) have been deleted from the original archived thread, including the one where I explained the situation, so it's pointless to think one can read that thread now and get the full picture.

 

4. I'm not discussing any of this ever again but unicorn and regulation: please feel free. The situation of clients demanding refunds after 2 years and 3 cancellations is something that happens almost daily in the escort world so it's definitely a worthwhile topic.

 

5. It's fuckin' hot in NYC.

[DaninWA]

>5. It's fuckin' hot in NYC.

 

Trade you:7 We had 4 feet of snow in Browning, MT yesterday.

 

Dan

[Guest regulation]

>2. I never said we (Derek and I) deserved any amount of

>money for planning activities or as a last-minute

>cancellation fee. What I said was that the money was

>supposed to be a guarantee of future employment, and to

>allow him to continue to book & cancel appointments, and

>that it was all his idea.

 

In light of what you say above I find it hard to understand why you have repeatedly brought up the fact that you spent time planning activities for Nice Guy and the fact that one of the cancellations was "at the last minute." If neither fact had any bearing on your decision not to return his money, why bring them up?

 

If you accepted the money as "a guarantee of future employment and to allow him to continue to book and cancel appointments," does the fact that you have kept the money mean he still has the right to do that? If not, I don't see any justification for you to keep any of the man's money, since you have specifically eliminated every other reason.

 

>3. 58 posts (out of 191) have been deleted from the original

>archived thread, including the one where I explained the

>situation, so it's pointless to think one can read that

>thread now and get the full picture.

 

There are more than enough posts left to bear out my description of that thread.

 

>4. I'm not discussing any of this ever again but unicorn and

>regulation: please feel free. The situation of clients

>demanding refunds after 2 years and 3 cancellations is

>something that happens almost daily in the escort world so

>it's definitely a worthwhile topic.

 

Since you said in a post in this thread that you found the whole situation "funny," I can't imagine why you seem so irritated whenever it comes up or why you have just vowed never to discuss it again. Are you afraid you'll laugh too hard? :-)

[Guest TopUNowD1]

Whoa mate... if that's your attitude about escorts, and a lot more was apparent then just your words, well I hope you never hire me.

 

We are not property, chattel, or simply a business. We are first and foremost people. Now, I don't buy into this whole cancellation fee thing either, and I get plenty of cancellations, even at the last minute. I just consider it part of the business and keep on moving. *grin*

 

But I would never have a regular client who feels about escorts *me* the way you obviously do. I have too much self-respect to let someone treat me that way and I certainly hope all the men around you do too.

 

Take care,

Mick - Dallas}>

[Guest regulation]

>But I would never have a regular client who feels about

>escorts *me* the way you obviously do. I have too much

>self-respect to let someone treat me that way and I

>certainly hope all the men around you do too.

 

 

What "way" is Spunk suggesting escorts be treated that you find objectionable? He's saying that an escort is someone who is hired and paid to do a job, not someone who is doing the client a favor. Does that not describe what you do? Certainly there are escorts who think they are doing clients a favor by taking their money -- if you doubt it, take a look at the latest review and response of the escort Brian Score in Florida. Spunk doesn't think clients should put up with that sort of attitude, and plenty of us agree with him. If you doubt that, take a look at the recent thread on Brian Score in the Deli section.

[Guest Derek Ross]

Regulation,

 

Just curious: What is your fascination with Rick Munroe and this 6-month-old thread? Aren't there any movie houses, books, theaters, museums, clubs, meetings or other cultural events in your area that could inspire you to stop obsessing over my boyfriend and possibly experience the world beyond this website?

 

Derek Ross

[Guest ManToManEscorts]

Cancellations

 

Hi Guys!

 

Another worthy thread that deserves attention.

 

As an Agency owner, I can vouch for the fact that client cancellations are a major problem for me. You would not believe the number of clients who are all hot to book a certain escort for a certain time/date/location -- then, after I set everything up for them, and confirm, the client suddenly becomes unreachable on the date/time of the booking. Not even a call to say they can't do it -- leaving both me and escort high and dry. Then it's left to me to clean up the mess.

 

I rarely, if ever, book any of my guys on more than 1 call per day, so this type of thing costs both me and the escort money. I have wracked my brain on how to prevent this from happening as often as it does, but the truth of the matter is, there isn't much I CAN do -- and unfortunately, the offending client knows it.

 

I COULD require a credit card deposit, but the client could easily reverse the charge -- and I'd have no signed documentation as a rebuttal. There is simply no viable way to collect a cancel fee from a client -- so I just have to factor the costs of cancellations into my budget -- which really sucks.

 

And, I know that most of you have had escorts cancel at the last minute or not show up-- this Agency does not bat .1000 in that area (tho we come damned close) :-) However, the few times this HAS happened, I bust my ass trying to salvage the call by offering a reasonable substitution (at a discount), because I feel bad for the client and I want to encourage repeat business.

 

HOWEVER, from my experience -- I can safely say that the ratio of client cancels to escort cancels has been approx. 20/1 in favor of the escorts. And I would NEVER try to justify an Escort cancel/no-show by saying "well, you clients cancel/no-show all the time!!"

 

And, pardon my cynicism, but the "sick/dying/dead relative" excuse for cancellations is getting way tired -- seems like the perfect excuse that only a monster (like me) would DARE question.}>

 

As for overnight/weekend/or travel bookings, I usually require a deposit (into my bank account) to be determined on a case by case basis (depending on a variety of factors). Usually I would require a 48-hour notice of cancellation in those cases.

 

I'd be interested in any of you have any valuable ideas on how to prevent irresponsible clients. :-) As for flaky/unreliable escorts, I think this site is likely the best revenge.

 

Thanks!

 

Dave

http://www.ManToManEscorts.com

[Guest elwood]

RE: Cancellations

 

I view the cancellation/no-show issue as one of respect.If the client has a change in plans after booking a meeting with an escort...it is the responsibility of the client to notify the escort with plenty of advance notice.No show/no call is totally irresponsible and unacceptable. I know it happens but I don't see how there can be any way of collecting any cancellation fee. There are guys out there who are just fooling around or neurotic or just want the "thrill" of seeing escort pics or chatting but do not intend to follow up. Sad. But this is part of the business. On the other hand..i feel that both the escort and the client have a perfect right to cancel a meeting for any reason as long as they do provide at least 48 hours notice unless the circumstances are unusual ( such as a week long or couple days booking ). As a client, I have made appointments a couple times and then changed my mind..but I always contacted the escort well in advance to cancel. In such circumstances, I do not feel I have to explain anything as long as I have notified the escort properly.

[Guest regulation]

>Regulation,

>

>Just curious: What is your fascination with Rick Munroe and

>this 6-month-old thread? Aren't there any movie houses,

>books, theaters, museums, clubs, meetings or other cultural

>events in your area that could inspire you to stop obsessing

>over my boyfriend and possibly experience the world beyond

>this website?

 

Derek,

 

I am not the one who created the thread on the contretemps between Rick and Nice Guy, nor am I the author of any of the several other threads created since then in which it has been brought up, nor am I the one who brought it up in this thread. The implication that I am the only person who is interested in the issue or that I am the one who keeps raising it would therefore be quite false.

 

What I am curious about is why this issue seems to upset you enough to post the kind of childish insults I see in your post above. Rick just got through telling us he thought the whole thing quite funny. Do you think he's lying about that? If not, why would this bother you? Don't you want your boyfriend to enjoy reading about a subject that amuses him? Surely you would not deny him that pleasure?