Play nice, or get out of the sand box...

[Lookin]

I've been cock-blocked by escorts who I've helped get into the business (as I took them on tour with me) and by other escorts randomly without intention (so no hard feelings).

 

So how did you handle it when it happened to you?

[Guest LeoWalker]

So how did you handle it when it happened to you?

 

Depended on the situation:

 

For the escorts I had touring with me to help them, I sent them on their own and didn't have them tour with me anymore since they obviously advanced past needing my help. After the current tour completed, of course.

 

As far as being randomly cock-blocked: I can think of a time where this was very relevant to me...I was touring Ohio: Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati--in that order. Seemed to be like it was going to be a pretty clean sweep for those interested in my look. In Cleveland, a client exclaimed: "How lucky we are to have 3 hot guys visiting our city all at the same time!". Checked online and saw two guys, somewhat similar to my look, touring together. I thought, "No big deal, I'll lose them in a day when I move on". Then I noticed they were in Columbus at the same time. I'm sure their presence lowered my income...but, it was also purely accidental, so there wasn't anything to be done. I was relieved, though, when I didn't see them in Cincinnati.

 

Sometimes I don't look online in a city to see who else is there. I used to a lot...and then didn't...and now have been a bit more lately as I kind of am always thinking of hiring as well. I've not seen it to be an issue other than that tour in Ohio or when I intentionally take someone with me.

 

Granted, now I prefer to tour with trans escorts (if I tour with anyone)...as they're not competition in any way and it takes away from being in the room (or at least the city) alone.

[Guest LeoWalker]

Tonight is the night of posting and then realizing I didn't express myself as clearly as I wished. The cock-blocking hasn't generally been an issue. I think it's more of an issue in smaller cities...like in Ohio. In the larger cities the affect is much smaller, but probably still there.

[Lookin]

Gosh! Two more like you? Lucky Cleveland indeed!

 

http://leowalker.com/pics/beach_face.jpg

 

Thanks for the insights.

[+ newatthis]

Leo -- one thing puzzles me. Why would someone intentionally cock-block a fellow escort? Wouldn't it cut down on business for the blocker as well as for the blockee? I guess if escort A disliked escort B, he might block him, but it's certainly a dog-in-the-manger move, isn't it?

[Guest LeoWalker]

Leo -- one thing puzzles me. Why would someone intentionally cock-block a fellow escort? Wouldn't it cut down on business for the blocker as well as for the blockee? I guess if escort A disliked escort B, he might block him, but it's certainly a dog-in-the-manger move, isn't it?

 

You're pretty much right. Though, there are certain escorts that will make more money than another no matter what if they're in the same location.

 

A scenario:

 

Escort A = very attractive.

Escort B = attractive, but not as much as A.

 

If escort A and B are always touring to the same city, escort A will almost always make more money. If escort B goes to a city where escort A is not, there is a good chance he'll make more money due to the lack of availability of escort A. This is also true in that it crosses preferences. If escort A is latino and escort B is white and they travel to a city that highly prefers latinos, then in the city at the same time, A will by far make more money...but, with the absence of the latino, the white escort may still make a good income simply because of them being available.

 

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With all of that said, though. The original poster was mentioning a much more malicious practice--simply because it shows intent. If one escort posts his travel plans, and another escort goes to the city just before that escort (because he knows where the escort he's trying to attack is going to go to)...the city may respond differently only seeing the one escort. By the time the second escort comes to the city, the clients who may have held out had they known he was coming, may have already hired the other escort simply because he was available.

 

That may not seem like a big deal, but if it's happening for a few weeks on end, the loss of income could be substantial. As well, there is the betrayal part...that someone who was thought to be a friend would intentionally plan or even re-arrange their travel plans as to do this is...awful. With what end? Just the intent to hurt someone else.

 

Hopefully, the situation that was originally posted about was random and will clear up...but if it is not, Devon is right, whoever is doing it is being especially mean.

 

In the trans world, the girls often touch base with one another before making plans...and are very particular about who they will and will not travel around, as they realize theirs is a very specialized fetish niche.

[Txpaytoplay]

Leo,

 

I am not sure I totally agree with your view on this....I mean no disrespect whatsoever. But, as I see it.....when one travels do they not try and see regulars first and then new clients? With that being said....if I want to see you (because your're hot and we have had a great time before), then I would see you. If things weren't so great I might want to see someone else. Or maybe see you and the other. I respect your view but just not sure it is as plausible as it seems. I for one will hire on looks at first but the second time is because of personality. When I decide to hire....I do my homework and see if somthing isn't just right about one or the other. Not sure if it makes sense ....but it does in my crazy world. Oh well. Just my two cents.

[devonhunter]

Hopefully, the situation that was originally posted about was random and will clear up...but if it is not, Devon is right, whoever is doing it is being especially mean.

 

In the trans world, the girls often touch base with one another before making plans...and are very particular about who they will and will not travel around, as they realize theirs is a very specialized fetish niche.

 

 

Thank you

[Guest novabear22031]

You're pretty much right. Though, there are certain escorts that will make more money than another no matter what if they're in the same location.

 

A scenario:

 

Escort A = very attractive.

Escort B = attractive, but not as much as A.

 

If escort A and B are always touring to the same city, escort A will almost always make more money. If escort B goes to a city where escort A is not, there is a good chance he'll make more money due to the lack of availability of escort A. This is also true in that it crosses preferences. If escort A is latino and escort B is white and they travel to a city that highly prefers latinos, then in the city at the same time, A will by far make more money...but, with the absence of the latino, the white escort may still make a good income simply because of them being available.

 

------------------------

 

With all of that said, though. The original poster was mentioning a much more malicious practice--simply because it shows intent. If one escort posts his travel plans, and another escort goes to the city just before that escort (because he knows where the escort he's trying to attack is going to go to)...the city may respond differently only seeing the one escort. By the time the second escort comes to the city, the clients who may have held out had they known he was coming, may have already hired the other escort simply because he was available.

 

That may not seem like a big deal, but if it's happening for a few weeks on end, the loss of income could be substantial. As well, there is the betrayal part...that someone who was thought to be a friend would intentionally plan or even re-arrange their travel plans as to do this is...awful. With what end? Just the intent to hurt someone else.

 

Hopefully, the situation that was originally posted about was random and will clear up...but if it is not, Devon is right, whoever is doing it is being especially mean.

 

In the trans world, the girls often touch base with one another before making plans...and are very particular about who they will and will not travel around, as they realize theirs is a very specialized fetish niche.

 

Very good thoughts there Leo. I know that I would be in trouble if a couple of guys I like being with decided to come in to town in short order. LOL

 

In niche markets it makes sense not to kill the prospects. Think that might also happen with the type of guys that I really like spending time with. Rarely have I seen these types of guys in the same city at the same time. If they are it is usually for some big event here in DC.

[Guest DuchessIvanaKizznhugg]

Clarification makes a difference.....

 

Hopefully, the situation that was originally posted about was random and will clear up...but if it is not, Devon is right, whoever is doing it is being especially mean.

 

Leo, I'm glad you posted at length on this.

I believe that Devon took a lot of unwarranted heat as a result of others misunderstanding his original post, and I'm glad you have helped to clarify.

 

On an unrelated topic....when are the pics from your European jaunt being posted?

[+ Lucky]

I don't think the heat Devon got was at all unwarranted. He came across as a real ass.

[Guest zipperzone]

If so, that would make two of you.

 

Well now Jackster - aren't you being pithy tonight!

 

First you call me a sad stalker and now it's Lucky who is an ass.

 

What's the matter honey - shorts a little on the tight side or is the wedgie your fan club gave you still stuck up your ass?

[Txpaytoplay]

Sunday's Recap

 

Let's see.....since our last recap....we have a well respected (not to mention, a very hot) escort who has come out and with a interesting point in defense of our original poster. Who, has very conspicuously kept quiet for the last few days (which is probably a very good move!). What some may view as marketing/advertising of an escort, another may view as "cock blocking" when two of the same type of escorts show up in the same city. (still, not sure I agree with this, but I can repsect that some may feel that way.)

 

Meanwhile - several other posters have chimed in on defending and not so much defending the original posters rants and raves. Not to mention, we now have a couple of posters with their own issues that have entered the sandbox, as if we didn't have enough of our own clawing and gnashing of teeth going here! Reeeeowww!

 

Anyways....that about sums it up. Until next time

[Guest LeoWalker]

Leo,

 

I am not sure I totally agree with your view on this....I mean no disrespect whatsoever. But, as I see it.....when one travels do they not try and see regulars first and then new clients? With that being said....if I want to see you (because your're hot and we have had a great time before), then I would see you. If things weren't so great I might want to see someone else. Or maybe see you and the other. I respect your view but just not sure it is as plausible as it seems. I for one will hire on looks at first but the second time is because of personality. When I decide to hire....I do my homework and see if somthing isn't just right about one or the other. Not sure if it makes sense ....but it does in my crazy world. Oh well. Just my two cents.

 

No disrespect taken. I'll say a little more...and if you still disagree, then we'll just agree to disagree. Thanks, btw, on your compliment in the recap.

 

It's possible the escort is making their first trip to the city and has no regulars. Or, that the escort does not contact past clients and simply allows them to see his ad and contact them if they're interested again and able to see them. Talking about a few escorts coming into town at the same time that interest a client, the client may not be able to afford to see all of the escorts...or simply not have the time...or the energy. =)

 

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Nova, thanks for the positive feedback.

 

Duchess, good memory, lol. I was just thinking about that the other day. Heading to my parent's for Thanksgiving so should have some time to get those online in the next few days.

[Guest zipperzone]

 

It's possible the escort is making their first trip to the city and has no regulars. Or, that the escort does not contact past clients and simply allows them to see his ad and contact them if they're interested again and able to see them. Talking about a few escorts coming into town at the same time that interest a client, the client may not be able to afford to see all of the escorts...or simply not have the time...or the energy. =)

 

It's more likely that it is not the lack of time or energy that is the problem - it's the lack of the extra $$$.

 

But this whole discussion boils down to (IMHO) whining about competition. If someone has a better product and can get it into the market place sooner than his competition, he stands to win. If the buyer doesn't think the product is superior and is willing to wait for the better on to be available, then product number 2 wins.

 

My apologies for comparing escorts to products but in the overall scheme of things, if you're selling something, what else is it?

[+ Lucky]

Well now Jackster - aren't you being pithy tonight!

 

First you call me a sad stalker and now it's Lucky who is an ass.

 

What's the matter honey - shorts a little on the tight side or is the wedgie your fan club gave you still stuck up your ass?

 

 

Fear not zipperzone, jackster has made his lack of love for me clear before. My post was the first in response to Devon, and I did not respond at all when Leo came in to clean up Devon's mess. I was not the only one trying to get through to Devon, he rejected all offers to wisen up. So he deserves the word I used.

[devonhunter]

Yes, Romann. I'm talking about YOU. And now that this whole sordid affair (that you created by falling woefully short of being the perfect person you prance around pretending to be) is finished (from my perspective), I am going to go back to the busy schedule that you interrupted. And whether I named you or not, I can't remember. You know why? Because this complete and utter bullshit doesn't matter to me, and I'd already forgotten about it. As you sit around thinking about all the horrible responses you are going to waste energy writing, just know that I am about to order take out, read my book, do another client, hook up with a hottie on the Upper East Side and FORGET ABOUT YOU ALL OVER AGAIN.

 

Go get a fucking life. GOD!

 

 

 

 

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From: Romann <romanninc@yahoo.com>

To: Devon Hunter <devonhunter1814@yahoo.com>

Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 9:15:55 PM

Subject: Re: Is there an issue?

 

 

Now you're an absolute liar because I've seen the exchanges and you've been named by several. Don't even threaten me, Devon in any fashion again ever again! And when you do publish this exchange, be sure to keep this part included so that everyone can see your threat as I will hold and store this message as well for future reference.

 

Threatening others is very much pathetic.

 

 

 

Cheers!

 

Romann

DALLAS, TX

 

 

214-535-7478

 

 

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From: Devon Hunter <devonhunter1814@yahoo.com>

To: Romann <romanninc@yahoo.com>

Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 7:52:27 PM

Subject: Re: Is there an issue?

 

 

First, I never said your name, so anyone presuming I am speaking of you must have made the connections based on who you actually are, as opposed to the person you pretend to be; second, I asked you not to email me; third, I have moved on from Daddy and the drama of the ridiculous, self-important people there; fourth, my comments haven't hurt me in any way whatsoever; fifth, if you continue badgering me I will publish this correspondence, so that everyone can have the glimpse of you that I have.

 

 

Now, have a good holiday and good-bye. There is no need for you to respond to this message in any form whatsoever.

 

 

I tip my hat to you,

 

 

D

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Dec 11, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Romann <romanninc@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

I'm not late on anything... I'm just now speaking up because of the trash talk that you have been throwing my way EVEN AFTER you complained in your thread about trash talking or my supposed trash talking about you. Seems like that's the pot calling the kettle black but that seems to be a pattern with you.

 

 

 

Cheers!

 

Romann

DALLAS, TX

 

 

214-535-7478

 

 

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From: Devon Hunter <devonhunter1814@yahoo.com>

To: Romann <romanninc@yahoo.com>

Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 6:24:14 PM

Subject: Re: Is there an issue?

 

 

You're a month late.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Dec 11, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Romann <romanninc@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

Well that's too bad Devon... you point all these fingers, gripe on the board about this, that and the other and yet you don't even have the balls to confront me about whatever your problem is. It speaks directly to your character or really, lack there of. To think that I defended you on a number of occasions concerning your perceived racist remarks along with other statements on the forum that directly hurt YOU.

 

You inability to have an adult conversation just backs up what I've thought... you need to grow up and quit throwing mud.

 

 

 

Cheers!

 

Romann

DALLAS, TX

 

 

214-535-7478

 

 

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From: Devon Hunter <devonhunter1814@yahoo.com>

To: Romann <romanninc@yahoo.com>

Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 6:13:12 PM

Subject: Re: Is there an issue?

 

 

Your disappointment is a non-issue. I am no longer interested in having a conversation with you. I do not trust you. Please do not write to me again.

 

 

Have a good holiday,

D

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Dec 11, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Romann <romanninc@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

Devon-

 

Good day to you.

 

I have been receiving some information from other escorts that you have an issue with me and that your thread, http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?t=71031 was directed at me though it doesn't exactly state that since you chose not to reveal who you were pointing the finger at.

 

That said, this is why I'm emailing you because I would like to know one, if that thread was directed at me. Two, if not, then I'm not sure why a handful of escorts have been filtering me information over the past couple weeks. After a conversation last with with another escort about this, he confirmed that you were speaking of me especially on the parts that I somehow have been scheduling my trips a week before you or your "friend" in some attempt to drain the resources of the clients in that city.

 

I must say that I was a bit disappointed after having this information confirmed by a few people and I began to wonder... have I done something to you specifically? I have always been very welcoming to you and have even sent you a handful of emails to check in with you.

 

Can you please shed some light on this as I would truly like to know from you.

 

 

 

Cheers!

 

Romann

DALLAS, TX

 

 

214-535-7478

 

 

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MILWAUKEE, WI 12/17-18

LINCOLN/OMAHA, NE 12/23-28

 

 

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[Guest greatness]

well now

 

Let's not fight. Christmas is coming up and a new year after that. Let's be open minded and try to resolve differences.

[Txpaytoplay]

Just when we thought it was safe to come back into the water!!

 

Why is it some people think that by airing their dirty laundry in public they are going to somehow be vindicated of all the wrong that has presumably been placed upon them? When in all actuality, all that the dirty laundry does is get dirtier especially in this environment, and everything will come out with spots on it. In other words, for those who did not understand the preceding....You have done nothing for your cause in my opinion in posting your email chain and basically supported what several of us tried explaining a month ago.

 

The classy thing to have done ....and what someone with character would have done was left this alone. You tried a month ago to make a point....and if you didn't want to work or discuss things in private with the other escort you should have stopped communicating period. By placing it in this thread, I doubt you are going to get any more sympathy or respect for your side of the argument....again my opinion. It seems to me you may be a little envious and jealous of the attention you counter part is receiving of late and are using this to try and bring him down. I stick with my original ascertation a month ago....and see nothing here that sways my opinion....(Sorry, Leo..

 

Dude...again...get over this and yourself....rest on your own merits and don't try to bring someone else down....you will go much further if you do.

 

Happy Holidays

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

SMILE Boys

 

My goodness this sounds like an episode from Days of our Lives..no need for insults are fighting its the Holidays! P.S If any of you plan on goin to Wall Mart anytime soon I would LOVE a 12 pak of Mt. Dew..just sayin!!

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

RE

 

For the record I just read the complete postings on this Thread and Even *I* wouldnt stoop this low regardless of the issue with another escort..and im 19 years old. We all know that age is just a number but you are both adults and this whole thing is insane its between you two not EVERYONE. Romann I must say has been very helpful and messaged me very positive advice with my journey just starting in the business..and Devon I just looked at your links and I must say ur cute! SO I hope this is left in a positive light and you two should just cut ur losses with each other.

 

P.S...

Im still waiting on that Mt. Dew:(

[NYTomcat]

As one of Devon's dramatic, ridiculous, self important people I feel the need to respond, although, since he has moved on from us, I find the need moot.

 

As most of you know my preferred escort, any response would seem tainted anyway. However, I will say that naming Romann as his target in question has seriously brought my opinion of his arguments to an all time low. Notwithstanding my opinions of Romann's qualification as an escort and companion, I have had the pleasure to get to know the man over the past few weeks.

 

You have not all been privy to the angst my decision to hire has provoked although some have heard the whole tale of my closeted life and why? Thanks Leo and Purple for your support through this whole process it has been greatly appreciated and a debt I will never be able to repay. That being said, Romann was the most central to the crazy path my re-entry to men (no pun intended) had created. By the time my encounter with Romann was over, I was an emotional basketcase. Im sure purple will concur.

 

Although he had no need or obligation, this man, Romann, has gone out of his way to assure that I am keeping my life together. Without asking or ever expecting such caring from an otherwise total stranger, Romann has kept in constant contact, making sure I'm getting through my days, getting help when needed or even the occassional emotional "slap in the face" when necessary. Taking from his own time and at no personal benefit to himself just to help another human being going through crisis. Perhaps my "mini -crush" as nycman identified now makes more sense, (Thanks nyc I like that term).

 

Given that history and the efforts Romann has made, I find Devon's comments completely without merit. In fact, I find them comically impossible from the man I have gotten to know. Thus, I can only say that hooville is benefited by Devon having grown so enlightened that he transcends beyond us to his higher plain of escorting. Good Riddance

[Guest greatness]

Aww

 

Hottiewithabody.. You are so sweet.

 

For the record I just read the complete postings on this Thread and Even *I* wouldnt stoop this low regardless of the issue with another escort..and im 19 years old. We all know that age is just a number but you are both adults and this whole thing is insane its between you two not EVERYONE. Romann I must say has been very helpful and messaged me very positive advice with my journey just starting in the business..and Devon I just looked at your links and I must say ur cute! SO I hope this is left in a positive light and you two should just cut ur losses with each other.

 

P.S...

Im still waiting on that Mt. Dew:(

[Guest greatness]

well

 

NYTomcat

 

You are so affectionate NYTomcat! We are certainly going on a shopping trip together with justaguy. I think Romann is a wonderful guy. However, I have to say that Devon is a well educated sensible guy, too. There is a possibility that Devon has been misinformed about Romann by another escort or his friend. I think there is a simple misunderstanding going on here. So I hope they can undo that and reconcile. I think this kind of a thing happen all the time. We all need to have a positive perspective to go on.

 

 

 

 

Given that history and the efforts Romann has made, I find Devon's comments completely without merit. In fact, I find them comically impossible from the man I have gotten to know. Thus, I can only say that hooville is benefited by Devon having grown so enlightened that he transcends beyond us to his higher plain of escorting. Good Riddance

[NYTomcat]

Greatness you are very sweet as well and I would love to hit the stores with you and justaguy. I have myself enjoyed many a post by Mr. Hunter. However, to use Devon's words against him

 

. I am speaking in defense of friendship and trust. I am intensely loyal: I do not tolerate abuse of my friends. Period. I am not speaking in outrage against anything anyone has done directly to ME. It matters little whether or not any of you agree with or approve of my passion. It is part of who I am.

 

.

 

In this one matter, I agree with Devon wholeheartedly. Given the disdain with which he refers to my friend and his offhanded remarks:

 

"I have moved on from Daddy and the drama of the ridiculous, self-important people there"

 

I have to stand by my original analysis. Good Riddance