Is it normal for a CLIENT to stand you up??

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

Hey Guys...

I am VERY new to the escort business..Ive had a few clients and in all honesty every experience has been amazing from both ends. As of today tho im actually completely flabergasted and confused because I booked someone over 2 weeks ago..we kept in constant communication..lots of emailing..plans were made..hotel was booked(so he said) we discussed where we would go to dinner etc and then BOOM no contact from him all day..I was suppose to meet with him a few hours ago but have heard nothing.

 

Now I live in the real world and COMPLETELY understand things come up as far as family/ job etc..but to just not contact me and cancel? Or at least say your not interested anymore?

 

Now this client of mine is a frequent visitor to this site and as someone who would like to remain professional I will not be saying any names..All I want to know from an escort and clients point of view is this normal??? Is it just me or is this just flat out RUDE considering I had other clients who wanted to be booked today and declined based on our plans.

[Kevin Slater]

It is my experience that the likelihood of a booking actually happening is inversely proportional to the amount of contact beforehand. For what it's worth.

 

Kevin Slater

[+ purplekow]

As a client, I have booked a lot of appointments. I have cancelled one and never not shown. There have been times I asked that the appointment be changed but never without reasonable notice. I am however, late about 60% of the time, but usually less than 10 minutes. Never can predict parking. Now in this same time, I have only had an escort not show without notice twice and have had several cancellations rather late in game. As for punctuality, well I have been left waiting as long as several hours, but usually with phone contact. In general, if the escort hasnt called and isnt there within 20 minutes, I move on to the rest of my day.

[Guest greatness]

Aww

 

It happens a lot though. Some escorts do that too. I don't know why they do that but I can't tell what's inside other people's mind so..

 

Hey Guys...

I am VERY new to the escort business..Ive had a few clients and in all honesty every experience has been amazing from both ends. As of today tho im actually completely flabergasted and confused because I booked someone over 2 weeks ago..we kept in constant communication..lots of emailing..plans were made..hotel was booked(so he said) we discussed where we would go to dinner etc and then BOOM no contact from him all day..I was suppose to meet with him a few hours ago but have heard nothing.

 

Now I live in the real world and COMPLETELY understand things come up as far as family/ job etc..but to just not contact me and cancel? Or at least say your not interested anymore?

 

Now this client of mine is a frequent visitor to this site and as someone who would like to remain professional I will not be saying any names..All I want to know from an escort and clients point of view is this normal??? Is it just me or is this just flat out RUDE considering I had other clients who wanted to be booked today and declined based on our plans.

[Romann]

Hello there and welcome to the MB!

 

These scenarios do and will happen. As they may not make sense, some cancelations are legit while others are questionable. The only reasoning that I have been able to apply to the questionable cancelations is that this is the cost of doing business. On a more positive note, you will receive and complete more appointments than cancelations by far.

 

Hey Guys...

I am VERY new to the escort business..Ive had a few clients and in all honesty every experience has been amazing from both ends. As of today tho im actually completely flabergasted and confused because I booked someone over 2 weeks ago..we kept in constant communication..lots of emailing..plans were made..hotel was booked(so he said) we discussed where we would go to dinner etc and then BOOM no contact from him all day..I was suppose to meet with him a few hours ago but have heard nothing.

 

Now I live in the real world and COMPLETELY understand things come up as far as family/ job etc..but to just not contact me and cancel? Or at least say your not interested anymore?

 

Now this client of mine is a frequent visitor to this site and as someone who would like to remain professional I will not be saying any names..All I want to know from an escort and clients point of view is this normal??? Is it just me or is this just flat out RUDE considering I had other clients who wanted to be booked today and declined based on our plans.

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

Thanks guys..

I completely understand that things come up but as a client or as an escort I just dont understand why someone cant be as courteous as to just giving someone a heads up rather than book them late in the date..have that person cancel other appointments based on the schedule they worked out with the initial client..then not even be considerate enough to email/call & cancel..nothing..at all. Maybe Im just from the school of respect..yes I am young but NEVER would I just stand a client up..it doesnt look good..people have lives and for someone to take time out of theirs to offer you a service be more courteous..you live and learn i guess!!

[Guest zipperzone]

Thanks guys..

I completely understand that things come up but as a client or as an escort I just dont understand why someone cant be as courteous as to just giving someone a heads up rather than book them late in the date..have that person cancel other appointments based on the schedule they worked out with the initial client..then not even be considerate enough to email/call & cancel..nothing..at all. Maybe Im just from the school of respect..yes I am young but NEVER would I just stand a client up..it doesnt look good..people have lives and for someone to take time out of theirs to offer you a service be more courteous..you live and learn i guess!!

 

It's because some people are just real SHITS.......

[Romann]

Pass the toilet paper, please!

 

It's because some people are just real SHITS.......

[Guest RianB]

Hey Guys...

Now this client of mine is a frequent visitor to this site.

 

uh oh...One must be warned. There are real clients on daddy's, and there are people who wish they were clients, on daddys. They are as different as the east is from the west. Your guy sounded like he only fantasized about it, on your dime and at the cost of your sanity.

 

Thanks guys..

I completely understand that things come up but as a client or as an escort I just dont understand why someone cant be as courteous as to just giving someone a heads up rather than book them late in the date..have that person cancel other appointments based on the schedule they worked out with the initial client..then not even be considerate enough to email/call & cancel..nothing..at all. Maybe Im just from the school of respect..yes I am young but NEVER would I just stand a client up..it doesnt look good..people have lives and for someone to take time out of theirs to offer you a service be more courteous..you live and learn i guess!!

 

Its completely normal. And equally frustrating. Our motto is that nothing is definite until the money is in hand. I know its tempting to make down a list of things to do after this long booking, but reality its nothing until they show up.

 

Also, when he said "the hotel was booked", were you able to confirm it? When someone books something with me in advance on the day they are at the hotel, I ask them to give me their room # so I can call and confirm their prescense. If they cant do it, or make up some silly excuse as if you are going to come and stalk them, dont take the booking seriously and go on about your day. Alot of times, they will give you the room number before you even ask for it. Thats when I say, ok...Im going to call to confirm it.

 

If they fuss about giving you their real name, say you can still confirm by just letting the receptionist know who you are, have them call the room saying who you are and let the person in the room say yes or no.

 

Unfortunently too, have to remember some people dont care to be courteous. If they are wasting your time, they want you to cancel other bookings and get all prepared and run around after them. And think about it, this guy booked you 2 weeks in advanced. Thats a long time, to the point where even if he did cancel at the last minute, wouldnt make sense. Job, family, whatever. 2 weeks is enough time to sort all that out.

 

The good news is, its unlikely someone will pull another stunt like that on you again in the next few weeks. But it happens, just stay focused on the ones who do show up and you'll be fine. And dont cancel bookings to anyone who cant be specific with you!

[wayout]

Mea Culpa

 

Mea culpa. Let me first come out and say that I am the client who he is referring to and that I am truly sorry for what I did. I apologize and there is really no excuse. It showed a serious lapse of judgment on my part and I did not act in a way that I normally do. I compounded the issue by not making a proper apology or explanation. I totally disrespected him and that is unacceptable.

 

I don’t want the following to sound like excuses for my action because there is no excuse (and I am sure many will accuse me of that), but it might be useful to demonstrate how something can get so far off track because of some issue that is not dealt with openly. I had contacted him and suggested a meeting knowing full well he was a newbie to the business. He was open for an overnight and asked what rate I would be willing to pay, saying he understands everyone’s situation is different. I appreciated that and I suggested a rate that I felt was fair considering he was new, un-reviewed and a couple hours away. He agreed and I was very excited about meeting him. Btw, he was great at communicating and responded promptly throughout our communications, over a week or so back and forth. I set up things for a hotel and we made plans for having dinner as well.

 

Here is where things started to go wrong. Two days before our meeting he contacted me saying that he was sorry but he made a mistake and thought that the amount we agreed to was for an evening and that an overnight would be twice the amount. He was very apologetic and said he felt unprofessional about this and did not want to jeopardize our meeting. We both went back and forth in vague ways about how to set an amount considering all this. Ultimately I suggested splitting the difference and he said he would do it for a hundred less, which was still quite a bit higher than originally planned/budgeted by myself. I felt really awkward and probably at this point should have just canceled but I said ok.

 

Over the next day I got myself all worked up on this. What should I have done? Keep the original rate and switch to an evening? I would not have enjoyed that because I wanted an overnight. Keep the original rate and require he live up to his agreement? It would have been an awkward and uncomfortable meeting. Pay the new rate for an overnight? I would have felt cheated. Canceling was probably the best thing and I should have done that but I somehow convinced myself he was playing me, bait and switch. I should have been more open and communicative with him but in my state of mind I wasn’t thinking clearly and was just pissed. I felt justified in blowing him off in my mind and I regret that so much now after a few days of cooling off. He didn’t deserve this treatment from me. I take full responsibility. Considering he is a newbie, I should have taken a much greater role in effectively resolving this because I’ve hired many escorts before.

 

So the question I would like to pose is under such a situation, beyond an apology, should I offer to pay him something for standing him up? If so, what is the “correct” amount to give him. Let the flogging begin.

[Guest greatness]

hmm

 

I think your client posted below and you forgot to mention that you changed the rate just two days into the appointment. I don't know what was your reason for that but that is not a good business practice and I can somehow understand the client's point of view.

 

The issue is that you failed to give the client an opportunity to look for better options because of you holding him for that rate. I think you are also at fault in this case, although the client should not have done that to you. I don't know the full story. I am just making suggestions based on the facts that are given by both of you. However, the client should not have done that.

 

Hey Guys...

I am VERY new to the escort business..Ive had a few clients and in all honesty every experience has been amazing from both ends. As of today tho im actually completely flabergasted and confused because I booked someone over 2 weeks ago..we kept in constant communication..lots of emailing..plans were made..hotel was booked(so he said) we discussed where we would go to dinner etc and then BOOM no contact from him all day..I was suppose to meet with him a few hours ago but have heard nothing.

 

Now I live in the real world and COMPLETELY understand things come up as far as family/ job etc..but to just not contact me and cancel? Or at least say your not interested anymore?

 

Now this client of mine is a frequent visitor to this site and as someone who would like to remain professional I will not be saying any names..All I want to know from an escort and clients point of view is this normal??? Is it just me or is this just flat out RUDE considering I had other clients who wanted to be booked today and declined based on our plans.

[Guest greatness]

well

 

It happens to everybody. I didn't know the other side of the story. If your story that the escort changed the rate just two days into the appointment is true, I understand your frustration. He was unprofessional. Do you owe him money? That is the tricky part. You should have cancelled the appointment when he changed the rate like that or he should have honored the original rate and provided the service. It is like holding a client promising for a certain rate then at the last minute changing the rate. I truly understand your frustration. If you had cancelled at the last minute that would have been fine too because it was due to the unprofessional behavior of the escort. However, the fact is that you blew him off. Talk to the escort and try to understand one another and make this go away. You both are at fault here. I don't like the fact that the escort business is not govern by some kinds of regulations. No one can tell you how much you have to compensate but the general start point is that spas and hospitals charge 50% of the rate if someone don't show up without any notice. Next time please let us know if you have a similar problem. You might be able to get some input and cool down a bit so you don't make an emotional decision and you can avoid a cancellation fee. I think you are a gentleman. Thanks.

 

Mea culpa. Let me first come out and say that I am the client who he is referring to and that I am truly sorry for what I did. I apologize and there is really no excuse. It showed a serious lapse of judgment on my part and I did not act in a way that I normally do. I compounded the issue by not making a proper apology or explanation. I totally disrespected him and that is unacceptable.

 

I don’t want the following to sound like excuses for my action because there is no excuse (and I am sure many will accuse me of that), but it might be useful to demonstrate how something can get so far off track because of some issue that is not dealt with openly. I had contacted him and suggested a meeting knowing full well he was a newbie to the business. He was open for an overnight and asked what rate I would be willing to pay, saying he understands everyone’s situation is different. I appreciated that and I suggested a rate that I felt was fair considering he was new, un-reviewed and a couple hours away. He agreed and I was very excited about meeting him. Btw, he was great at communicating and responded promptly throughout our communications, over a week or so back and forth. I set up things for a hotel and we made plans for having dinner as well.

 

Here is where things started to go wrong. Two days before our meeting he contacted me saying that he was sorry but he made a mistake and thought that the amount we agreed to was for an evening and that an overnight would be twice the amount. He was very apologetic and said he felt unprofessional about this and did not want to jeopardize our meeting. We both went back and forth in vague ways about how to set an amount considering all this. Ultimately I suggested splitting the difference and he said he would do it for a hundred less, which was still quite a bit higher than originally planned/budgeted by myself. I felt really awkward and probably at this point should have just canceled but I said ok.

 

Over the next day I got myself all worked up on this. What should I have done? Keep the original rate and switch to an evening? I would not have enjoyed that because I wanted an overnight. Keep the original rate and require he live up to his agreement? It would have been an awkward and uncomfortable meeting. Pay the new rate for an overnight? I would have felt cheated. Canceling was probably the best thing and I should have done that but I somehow convinced myself he was playing me, bait and switch. I should have been more open and communicative with him but in my state of mind I wasn’t thinking clearly and was just pissed. I felt justified in blowing him off in my mind and I regret that so much now after a few days of cooling off. He didn’t deserve this treatment from me. I take full responsibility. Considering he is a newbie, I should have taken a much greater role in effectively resolving this because I’ve hired many escorts before.

 

So the question I would like to pose is under such a situation, beyond an apology, should I offer to pay him something for standing him up? If so, what is the “correct” amount to give him. Let the flogging begin.

[Romann]

There are always two sides to the coin.

 

My thoughts are this... the escort shouldn't have changed the rate and it sounds (maybe I read the client response wrong) as if there was a misunderstanding on that issue but in the end, the escort could have honored the discussed fee instead of losing the appointment altogether.

 

The client shouldn't have attempted to negotiate the stated rate down just because the escort is new and not reviewed or well reviewed. Six months ago, I didn't have reviews on this MB but does that make me less of an escort? I didn't think so then and I wouldn't think that of someone now but that's just me. Many clients choose not to or refuse to submit a review but have a wonderful experience with their escort of choice. If the rate for the overnight wasn't acceptable and the client didn't want to pay it then he should have passed the escort up and moved onto someone that was more suitable both in price and reviews.

 

In the end, I think there was a breakdown in communication from both parties but there are lessons from this experience

[Romann]

Let the flogging begin.

 

I prefer paddling over flogging and have just the thing for you - you bad boy you and your escort too!

[+ purplekow]

My suggestion as to how to solve this: Wayout hire him for an overnight and pay his requested fee not the negotiated one, the requested one. You may be paying a bit extra but this will more than make up for your callously standing him up. You get laid, he gets paid.

[Guest greatness]

Good point

 

I don't know what it the rate the client suggested but it was too low from the national average? We don't have the full story but I gave my opinion with what I know. Maybe I was unfair. However, the client did punish the escort due to his anger. It is a difficult issue.

 

There are always two sides to the coin.

 

My thoughts are this... the escort shouldn't have changed the rate and it sounds (maybe I read the client response wrong) as if there was a misunderstanding on that issue but in the end, the escort could have honored the discussed fee instead of losing the appointment altogether.

 

The client shouldn't have attempted to negotiate the stated rate down just because the escort is new and not reviewed or well reviewed. Six months ago, I didn't have reviews on this MB but does that make me less of an escort? I didn't think so then and I wouldn't think that of someone, in this case another escort now but that's just me. Many clients choose not to or refuse to submit a review but have a wonderful experience with their escort of choice. If the rate for the overnight wasn't acceptable and the client didn't want to pay it then he should have passed the escort up and moved onto someone that was more suitable both in price and reviews.

 

In the end, I think there was a breakdown in communication from both parties but there are lessons from this experience

[Guest RianB]

Here is where things started to go wrong. Two days before our meeting he contacted me saying that he was sorry but he made a mistake and thought that the amount we agreed to was for an evening and that an overnight would be twice the amount.

 

Uh oh. well, yeah now that can make a difference. I cant think of anytime where telling a client a different price has turned out well. The results are all the same. When I first started, even some of my best clients have cancelled out on me because I may have changed the price somewhere in the conversation. Its good to have the price figured out beforehand. If you forget, tell the client to holdon a sec while you check the price.

 

So although I still say your not showing up (and not mentioning your concern) wasn't the best thing to do, I can see why. You wouldn't be the first client to bail on someone who changed up the fee.

 

The client shouldn't have attempted to negotiate the stated rate down just because the escort is new and not reviewed or well reviewed. Six months ago, I didn't have reviews on this MB but does that make me less of an escort? I didn't think so then and I wouldn't think that of someone, in this case another escort now but that's just me.

 

you couldnt of said it any better...

[wayout]

Fee

 

Just to be clear, the initial fee was based on the escort not having an established rate schedule and leaving the amount to suggest up to me, based on his feeling that everyone's situation is different. I did not try to negotiate anything down from any stated rate (there wasn't one) but rather I made an offer that was accepted. I frankly was expecting a counter but it did not come so I thought everyone was happy. I was in the dark as to what his expectations were, so how to handle that was my dilema (perhaps how to deal with this is another thread). Use the national average? Perhaps but frankly I think when someone lets you make an offer most people start low and go from there. Was it a good deal for me? Certainly. For him? I guess not but how was I to know since he initially accepted it.

[JT Brooklyn]

Cancel

 

Just to throw in MY 2 cents on this...

 

A well known and Idolized "Working Guy" on here Cancelled with me 15 mins before Showtime! Then when I contacted him a SHORT TIME Later to ReSked...He said "Sorry My Rates have had to go UP"!

 

Needless to say "Mr Big Dick" was never asked to "Wave It" around MY Bedroom again! !

[mansniffing]

Changing Horses in Mid-Stream

 

The escort should have honored the fee agreed upon for an overnight and honored the appointment. Calling you a week later to renegotiate the same fee for an evening instead of an overnight was certainly unexpected. I can understand your reluctance and ambivalence afterward to go along with his suggestion even with a $100 discount. Letting it go is best. Rewarding him is not a good idea. Now he knows that "a bird in hand is better than two in the bush." And hopefully he has also learned:

 

"Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted."

–––––quote attributed to a contributor on Daddy's MFM Message Forum.

[Guest greatness]

It happens

 

Some bad escorts play games. I am not sure and can't speculate because I am not the escort involved here.

 

 

 

Just to throw in MY 2 cents on this...

 

A well known and Idolized "Working Guy" on here Cancelled with me 15 mins before Showtime! Then when I contacted him a SHORT TIME Later to ReSked...He said "Sorry My Rates have had to go UP"!

 

Needless to say "Mr Big Dick" was never asked to "Wave It" around MY Bedroom again! !

[alanalt]

Given the lack of successful communication going on between escort and (prospective) client here, I doubt I'm the only one thinking it may well have been better that the appointment did not come off. The best that can be said is that, hopefully, both escort and client will have learned from this experience and won't make those mistakes again...

 

As a client, I have occasionally cancelled but I've always tried to give as much notice as possible - a couple of times when I came down with a migraine (and once with a cold) the notice was fairly short (i.e. several hours beforehand). I've also had escorts cancel for much the same reason (and with much the same notice). I have never simply not shown up for an appointment. Twice, I've had escorts not show up for an appointment without notice while I was on the road visiting their home towns. Needless to say, they never got a chance at my business again.

 

So yes, shit happens and it flows both ways...

 

Alan

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

Ok..

I am the Escort who started this Post and I am glad to see that the client FINALLY has come forth even tho unfortunately It is on this site rather than a simple email?

 

NOW LET ME CLARIFY THINGS

 

I am a newbie to the escort world..yes VERY new as Ive just started a month ago. Originally when Wayout and I made a booking I thought he was booking me for an evening..not an overnight. So I gave him my evening rate.

 

It was not untill the week of the booking we started to go more in depth about the event/night that I realized he wanted an overnight..so I take FULL..responsibility for changing my rate.

 

Now heres my defense..I spoke with wayout about this..thru messenger not back and forth on email and explained to him the mistake I made. I ASKED HIM..I repeat I ASKED HIM what he saw fit to be more reasonable as far as the rate goes since It was completely my fault for giving him an evening rate rather than an overnight rate..Wayout kept asking me what I normally charged..I told him I would rather *HE* set the limit..he wouldnt give me one..so after about 20 minutes of this going back and forth finally I set a number which is my normal rate..he agreed to it. it was done. I have a few regulars who happened to be in town this same day on business who also wanted to book me but I had already made plans with Wayout for the evening and missed out on those oppurtunities.

 

I find it aggrivating because this is a business and the entire day I was left..cold..no explanation..no email...no call..he had all of my information..as a matter of fact my regulars who had made it into town again asked If I would be available and I had to turn them down..AGAIN.

 

Everyones schedule was thrown off. I spent the entire day buying new underwear, a new outfit for the night and other personal items. I do feel cheated. I hate sounding bitter but COMMUNICATION is key

 

I want to make this very clear..

 

It is not my character to "Play" a client..honestly who does that benefit?? That makes me look like a horrible escort and who would hire someone with that sort of reputation.

 

Im human..I made a mistake by thinking we were discussing an evening rather than overnight..

 

Guys listen..THIS IS WHY I ASKED HIM WHAT HE SAW REASONABLE??!!

 

He insisted..for TWENTY minutes I give a rate..

 

I cant stress enough how this is all very unfortunate. Not only for myself and the client but the other clients who wanted my time for this day.

[Guest zipperzone]

Its good to have the price figured out beforehand. If you forget, tell the client to holdon a sec while you check the price. QUOTE]

 

Just where would you "check the price"? In the "Blue Book of Standard Escort Rates"? We're not talking about the price of a car here.

 

If you don't know your own pricing then you're not very professional.

[wayout]

Actually...

 

I don't want it to get into a "he said/he said" kind of thing, but there are some factual errors or ommissions. I only want to focus on one in particular because he has said that I would not suggest a rate at the point when he said what he normally charged for a night. I certainly did hesitate mostly because I was caught off guard but he should acknowledge that I did suggest one way to resolve it would be to split the difference between the original and new rate. That is when he came back with the hundred dollar discount off his usual rate.

 

Two things for sure I will agree with are that better communication would have helped and that it was unfortunate for everyone, including others who were indirectly impacted (other clients he could not see and other escorts I could not arrange to meet).