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Pardon my ignorance, but why does a guy like Kris (or Chris) have a listing with Maximum Escorts AND independent listings on Rentboy and other sites? I would think that the agency puts in time and effort promoting a guy, creates a webpage and a picture gallery, answers inquiries and schedules the appointment - which is why a premium price is warranted. If I were the agency, I would frown upon having one of the guys marketing himself solo because it takes business away from the agency. It's probably unavoidable that some guys cut private deals with their best customers from the agency, but that's very different from promoting yourself directly on Rentboy, where Maximum also has an ad - with essentially the same pictures.

 

I had the same experience with 'Bryant' on Maximum - this guy has an ad on the 'PROS' page of adam4adam, NYC. When I chatted with him about this, he offered me $200 cash vs the $330 credit card payment through Maximum. Clearly, that would be undercutting the agency's business. Or could it just be that the guy on adam4adam was just using Bryant's pics and pretending to be Bryant? Who knows in this business ... LOL.

 

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Well I would answer your Question with the Simple Explanation ...that there are those Clients who donot like dealing with Independants for various reasons and would rather have the "Leg Work" done by Maximum for them!

 

As far as working both for an Agency and as an Independant some guys are very comfortable dealing directly with Clients and some are not! ;) These guys also like to keep busy! :D

 

Chris is an Old Friend who definitely is Great Company In and Out of the Bedroom. Also much Cuter than any Pix he has taken. The Equipment speaks for itself! :eek: He definitely likes to use it for a long time also! ;)

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Point in fact, some / many (?) of the guys working for Dave @ mantoman in socal run independent ads on various sites....Dave (apparently) has no problem with this.....when it works, it can be a substantial savings for the client, especially on overnite rates.

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Pardon my ignorance, but why does a guy like Kris (or Chris) have a listing with Maximum Escorts AND independent listings on Rentboy and other sites? I would think that the agency puts in time and effort promoting a guy, creates a webpage and a picture gallery, answers inquiries and schedules the appointment - which is why a premium price is warranted. If I were the agency, I would frown upon having one of the guys marketing himself solo because it takes business away from the agency. It's probably unavoidable that some guys cut private deals with their best customers from the agency, but that's very different from promoting yourself directly on Rentboy, where Maximum also has an ad - with essentially the same pictures.

 

 

 

Maximum's enthusiastically reviewed Colin now posts on Rentboy as Leyton, offering an afternoon rate of $160 and, on occasion, an out rate of $150. A major bargain for one of the hotter guys in their stable, or anywhere.

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Thanks for your inputs, guys. Much appreciated. The most important aspect is that Kris (Chris), Colin (Leyton) and probably many of their colleagues are out there providing pleasure to us, truly discriminating buyers .... :), and that we have various channels and price points to procure their services.

 

However, if I was running an agency that markets itself based on 'exclusivity', I wouldn't let the 'staff' get away with any of this.

 

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Thanks for your inputs, guys. Much appreciated. The most important aspect is that Kris (Chris), Colin (Leyton) and probably many of their colleagues are out there providing pleasure to us, truly discriminating buyers .... :), and that we have various channels and price points to procure their services.

 

However, if I was running an agency that markets itself based on 'exclusivity', I wouldn't let the 'staff' get away with any of this.

 

Chris

BA... As a CLIENT I wouldn't "concern myself" with anything other than having my needs met, no matter "How or with Whom" the guy chooses to Market himself through.

 

Maximum has been in The Biz for 10 Years, none of the guys are considered STAFF! They avail their Services thru Maximum. ;)

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I've wondered abput this too...

 

Pardon my ignorance, but why does a guy like Kris (or Chris) have a listing with Maximum Escorts AND independent listings on Rentboy and other sites? I would think that the agency puts in time and effort promoting a guy, creates a webpage and a picture gallery, answers inquiries and schedules the appointment - which is why a premium price is warranted. If I were the agency, I would frown upon having one of the guys marketing himself solo because it takes business away from the agency. It's probably unavoidable that some guys cut private deals with their best customers from the agency, but that's very different from promoting yourself directly on Rentboy, where Maximum also has an ad - with essentially the same pictures.

 

I had the same experience with 'Bryant' on Maximum - this guy has an ad on the 'PROS' page of adam4adam, NYC. When I chatted with him about this, he offered me $200 cash vs the $330 credit card payment through Maximum. Clearly, that would be undercutting the agency's business. Or could it just be that the guy on adam4adam was just using Bryant's pics and pretending to be Bryant? Who knows in this business ... LOL.

 

Chris

 

Bryant was advertising on Rentboy at when I was in NYC. I don't know how the agency feels about that.

By advertising on the various sites (which are more widely known than Maximum), I'm sure the guys get additional business. If they're working to increase their exposure & don't have some sort of exclusivity arrangement with the agency, I suppose that's fair. Whether the agency *misses any business is unknown to me.

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Normally I don't chime in when the topic of guys who work for our agency are found working elsewhere. Discriminating clientele know where to find escorts, and there's no way for me to hide it when they are available on other sites. I don't like these discussions at all because it just brings to light that my agency is being undercut, but there is nothing I can do about it, so complaining or saying "please don't point that out" isn't going to change anything. We have made it a point for a while to try and hire only guys who will be exclusive with us, but when an escort is relying solely on this business for income sometimes it is necessary for them to work on their own. I've also never required anyone who comes to work for us to cut off their own advertising and be exclusive with us. This certainly cuts into the business Maximum gets for them, but in the end the escort probably does better financially. As you all know I have even allowed certain escorts to use the photos I have taken of them for our website in their personal ads. When I am particularly friendly with one of the guys who's in need I can't bring myself to say "no" when I know it will help them. Eventually what occurs in this situation is that the escort is somewhat marginalized on our site and other new guys come in and take the top spots. This is how we carry on in an industry that has saturated the internet in the last decade. There are also a certain number of clients who may or may not know about many escort web sites, so when they find Maximum they are not aware of the guys being available elsewhere. Yes they pay a premium, but if they didn't there would be no Maximum, hence there would be quite a few less excellent escorts around who have made their debut through our agency. For years we had Ross, then Olivier...guys that were at the top of the field who you couldn't find anywhere else. Today it's Jeremy, Damian, Tommy, Victor, etc. We still pride ourselves on being first class, but if we can't have them all exclusive to the agency, we're still happy with the work that they do with us when it comes along.

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Today it's Jeremy, Damian, Tommy, Victor, etc. We still pride ourselves on being first class, but if we can't have them all exclusive to the agency, we're still happy with the work that they do with us when it comes along.

 

Actually, Damian can be found on at least one of the escort web sites. However, I chose to book him through Maximum for this weekend anyway. I will be in New York this weekend and I have booked two 3-ways with Maximum for Friday night and Saturday night. Jeremey and Brandon are on tap for Friday night and Jeremy and Damian are on tap for Saturday night. I have never seen Jeremy advertised anywhere other than the Maximum site. I have also booked Brandon on 4 or 5 previous occasions and have never seen him advertised anywhere other than the Maximum site. Even though I have seen Damian advertised on another site under a different name (for less than the Maximum rate), I still booked him through Maximum due to 3-way logisitcs being easier.

 

And Stephen is a pleasure to deal with!!!. The other thing is that if there is an issue with the call or one of the escorts I have the agency to deal with. This was the case once with one of the Maximum escorts and I received an "accomodation" from the agency on my next trip to to NY. Well worth the extra $ for the extra service.

 

Especially when dealing with threesomes, it is worth it to me to spend an extra $50 to have the escorts arrive within 5 minutes of each other. Most of the time the agency has them meet up or travel together so they arrive together.

 

And as Stephen said, many of the guys would not be available at all if they had to run ads, screen clients, etc. on their own. Many of them don't want the hassle or to spend the time. I have booked many three ways with independents and many three ways through agencies - usually the calls booked through agencies are easier to deal with than the "independent" three ways. The agency coordinates and I don't have to.

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Normally I don't chime in when the topic of guys who work for our agency are found working elsewhere. Discriminating clientele know where to find escorts, and there's no way for me to hide it when they are available on other sites. I don't like these discussions at all because it just brings to light that my agency is being undercut, but there is nothing I can do about it, so complaining or saying "please don't point that out" isn't going to change anything. We have made it a point for a while to try and hire only guys who will be exclusive with us, but when an escort is relying solely on this business for income sometimes it is necessary for them to work on their own. I've also never required anyone who comes to work for us to cut off their own advertising and be exclusive with us. This certainly cuts into the business Maximum gets for them, but in the end the escort probably does better financially. As you all know I have even allowed certain escorts to use the photos I have taken of them for our website in their personal ads. When I am particularly friendly with one of the guys who's in need I can't bring myself to say "no" when I know it will help them. Eventually what occurs in this situation is that the escort is somewhat marginalized on our site and other new guys come in and take the top spots. This is how we carry on in an industry that has saturated the internet in the last decade. There are also a certain number of clients who may or may not know about many escort web sites, so when they find Maximum they are not aware of the guys being available elsewhere. Yes they pay a premium, but if they didn't there would be no Maximum, hence there would be quite a few less excellent escorts around who have made their debut through our agency. For years we had Ross, then Olivier...guys that were at the top of the field who you couldn't find anywhere else. Today it's Jeremy, Damian, Tommy, Victor, etc. We still pride ourselves on being first class, but if we can't have them all exclusive to the agency, we're still happy with the work that they do with us when it comes along.

 

Do we need any other exmple of why Stephen and Maximum as such classy folks to deal with.

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Do we need any other exmple of why Stephen and Maximum as such classy folks to deal with.

 

Perhaps we don't, but I'll provide one even so. I've spent a couple of nights empty handed, as it were, because Stephen and Matt wouldn't send guys they were fairly certain were not what I wanted. I'm sure their instincts were on target, especially since they've been so right about guys they have sent.

 

One of the guys on their slate, who shall remain nameless, has slashed his Rentboy rates so markedly this week that I'm concerned about his well being.

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I appreciate your thoughtful response, Stephen. As others have said, that is indeed very classy of you. Bravo.

 

I find Stephen’s response to be quite realistic, reasonable, and appropriate. It demonstrates a mindset that is pragmatic and open-minded for not only the agency, but for the escort as well.

 

Let’s face it escorting is a business… and each escort needs to make certain business decisions. Some prefer to have an agency do their advertising and scheduling for them and that alone justifies the higher rate. Others prefer to take on those time consuming and fiscal responsibilities themselves. Others find it in their best interest to do a combination of the two. However an escort decides to operate his business dealings it is a decision based on financial and personal considerations.

 

I might add that many clients often prefer to hire through an agency… be it due to the lack of time to do the research, the need to be somewhat removed form having any personal contact with the escort, or for a variety of other reasons some of which have been noted above. In other words, an agency can provide a comfort zone for a whole range of potential clients. In such cases it is certainly worth paying a premium for such services… Plus, Maximum is emphatically not “Rentboy with a phone operator”… and I might add that when dealing with Maximum one knows that they are seeing not only accurate pictures and getting accurate descriptions, but most importantly the client has the opportunity to discuss the personalities, talents, and aptitudes of a whole host of possibilities so as to be assured of a suitable match. For many clients that last aspect is of utmost importance and in that regard Maximum has proved to be exemplary.

 

So even though there is really no need to give further examples of the attention that Maximum gives to their clients.… I must second what Lankypeters has noted above as Stephen has dissuaded me from hiring more of his escorts than he has recommended. Now that is about as forthright, honest, and classy as it gets!

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Escort agencies can be a very good thing.

 

Here in neck of the woods, there is a guy that deals with college escorts. He knows my taste and what I am looking for. I pay a premium rate, but I know the guys he sends my way are EXACTLY what I am looking for. If he is unsure, he goes ahead and sends them my way; and if I didn't like them, he always gives me a free hour/session with another guy.

 

With well know escort agencys like Maximum, you know you are not going to get ripped off, and that in itself is so worth it.

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Just to agree...

 

And Stephen is a pleasure to deal with!!!. The other thing is that if there is an issue with the call or one of the escorts I have the agency to deal with. This was the case once with one of the Maximum escorts and I received an "accomodation" from the agency on my next trip to to NY. Well worth the extra $ for the extra service.

 

Especially when dealing with threesomes, it is worth it to me to spend an extra $50 to have the escorts arrive within 5 minutes of each other. Most of the time the agency has them meet up or travel together so they arrive together.

 

And as Stephen said, many of the guys would not be available at all if they had to run ads, screen clients, etc. on their own. Many of them don't want the hassle or to spend the time. I have booked many three ways with independents and many three ways through agencies - usually the calls booked through agencies are easier to deal with than the "independent" three ways. The agency coordinates and I don't have to.

 

The agency certainly provides value to both the escorts AND the clients. The escort doesn't have to deal with the marketing and gets some business by virtue of Maximum's reputation that he probably wouldn't get otherwise. As clients, we benefit form Maximum's vetting and their handling of the logistics, and we have the agency as a recourse if there are issues. Hiring from Maximum definitely raises the odds of a successfule enocunter.

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Kris is definitely looking Great and actually better than his Pix's which he always has. ;)

 

He is in NYC until the end of the month. He is a "Total Top" which means those Sweet Muscle Cheeks ain't Opening!

 

He definitely is ALOT of Vanilla Fun! :)

 

Yes, he is terrific for vanilla fun - with a really beautiful and tasty piece of meat, and LOVES to open the cheeks for rimming YUMMY! And he has a magnificen body too!:D

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