Scott Adler and Mason Wyler

[+ David-SF]

giving it a chance

 

8tool-

 

Thanks for your respectful post. If you will look at the various posts from me that you quoted, none of them except for the last mention SA at all. The earlier posts mention the content of the blog and other posters leaped to whatever conclusions they wished.

 

The only post I made that included SA was in reference to the one where he posted and made his appeal about everyone's interest in him, etc. Whether you think any of this is helpful to anyone or not is a matter of individual opinion, just as most of the posts are just that, someone's opinion.

 

I agree with you that many posters and other readers of this MB seem to jump to the defense of either BN or SA. They both seem to have an overabundance of enthusiasm regarding who they are and what they might or might not do.

 

Sorry if it offended you. Mosts of these posts do not seem to be neutral, do they?

 

 

Best regards,

KMEM

 

I believe I am so used to the defending and mud throwing that I may be assuming that you were being back handed and possibly read too much into the posts.

I just wanted to point out that it did not serve me personally I can not speak for anyone else, as for neutrality in the MC as whole who knows but in times when an escort or a poster or a client is under fire .....Never.

I was not offended i think everyone has their opinions and that's great.

I much prefer your posts about aviation and hot trysts with BN ( when your not having to defend him ) and other fun stuff you chime in about

at first I thought the only thing you wanted to do was promote BEN (which by the way very cool of you) I am very happy he makes you happy.

thats a big huge smile from me to you about that.

As time has gone by I see and read about many of your other interests and I am glad i have given you some reading room. I can be pretty judgmental myself and am always happy when I actually allow my self to open up and give it a chance.

xo David:)

[SAdler]

8tool-

 

Thanks for your respectful post. If you will look at the various posts from me that you quoted, none of them except for the last mention SA at all. The earlier posts mention the content of the blog and other posters leaped to whatever conclusions they wished.

 

The only post I made that included SA was in reference to the one where he posted and made his appeal about everyone's interest in him, etc. Whether you think any of this is helpful to anyone or not is a matter of individual opinion, just as most of the posts are just that, someone's opinion.

 

I agree with you that many posters and other readers of this MB seem to jump to the defense of either BN or SA. They both seem to have an overabundance of enthusiasm regarding who they are and what they might or might not do.

 

Sorry if it offended you. Mosts of these posts do not seem to be neutral, do they?

 

 

Best regards,

KMEM

 

I don't think I play the victim as much as I get victimized. I'm not pleading for sympathy so much as people like you make it rightfully available. Not at all to draw parallels between myself and another because those that continuously stick up for me do so from a completely different mentality it would seem than the former -- and that's great for the others. We're different people and I would politely ask that you stop using yours and other's constant NEED to defend him to draw congruency between us.

 

I'm a big boy and apologize when it's due and learn from my mistakes as others do and hopefully have. My issues have been more self destructive than anything and I've never hurt someone else physically or emotionally, stole from them or put them in jeopardy. To me that's what matters and I can sleep at night as a result, any opportunity for personal growth is always welcome. I don't self promote more or less than anyone in this particular business.

 

I think the overall point that 8inchtool is making is that your commentary and insinuation literally come for no reason beyond stirring the pot and "causing controversy" that only serves to victimize and cause others to garner sympathy that you criticize them for. Point is if you're going to defend someone great. Awesome, that's noble of you. What do you gain from calling someone else names or making accusations of dangerous behaviors unless you're on their opposition's payroll?

 

Oh yes, in my second quarter of school. Took two years off. Hope that makes sense.

 

Meanwhile -- Thanks to EVERYONE who has written me thus far. It's really nice to "be back" as well. I really did debate even acknowledging the venom again but in this case it just made the most sense to paint the white elephant in the room pink. It's not going to change any minds as the same thing has been said to the same people over the years but hopefully for the lurkers and new posters it gives them a little perspective on goal oriented posting.

[KMEM]

SA-

 

I think 8inchtool made his point without your interpretation. I insinuated nothing other than what I plainly stated and that was you play the victim, with or without other's help, and that is your game and your business.

 

As for stirring the pot, I am not sure I have heard it called that before.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Guest greatness]

Good luck

 

 

What I've learned by now is that THOSE people are lacking happiness in their own lives and only feel better about themselves by attacking others and I truly pity them. If they were happy, they wouldn't even need to discuss others negatively, it's simply a projection of themselves.

 

 

I totally agree. However, it is a likely reason why THEY need escorts and posting vicious comments on this forum. They are miserable and unhappy and they need an outlet. So forgive them and good luck with your studies.

[Bart]

It is nice when a guy will at least come out on his own to defend a position or accusation, rather than have his heel nippers doing the work for him.

 

Again this board is at its best when escort, client and others can discuss issues opennly and not have every word written analyzed to death.

 

The picture looks like a classic promo shot taken at any porn/escort celebrity event, why would someone jump to the conclusion that that the people in the picture are all guilty of the same problems just because one person in the pic has a promoted lifestyle. That speaks of guilt by association.

[+ Gar1eth]

SA-

 

I think 8inchtool made his point without your interpretation. I insinuated nothing other than what I plainly stated and that was you play the victim, with or without other's help, and that is your game and your business.

 

As for stirring the pot, I am not sure I have heard it called that before.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

 

All right--guess I have to start off with the usual disclaimer--I have never met Scott.

 

Now that I have gotten that off my chest. Can I say that this has been a most unusual thread? I mean 1st BewareofNick--posts a picture of 3 hot guys--one of the guys being Scott--and asks "if Scott hit that"? Now I think I am a fairly reasonable guy with a fairly reasonable understanding of things--and I understood this to be a question on whether Scott had had "knowledge" in the biblical sense of Mason.

 

All of a sudden KMEM chimes in with a posting about "barebacking or drugs". I read that and wondered--where the heck did that come from--the statement seemed to come out of left field. There was no explanation of why he would ask something like that just out of the blue. After that some people did mention that in Mason's blog--there was a mention of drugs being present at the party--but that he --Mason--hadn't been using them.

 

Then some of the subsequent posts seemed to be either attacking Scott (and Mason) or questioning their veracity. Scott chimed into defend himself--very reasonably I might add--and it just added fuel to the fire. KMEM then obliquely refers--I think --to an episode that happened probably over a year ago when Scott was attacked anonymously in this forum and defended himself--and then KMEM goes on to make what I am assuming he hopes are cutting comments about Scott's slow progress in school.

 

Again I have to say how did all this occur with the simple posting of a picture of 3 handsome guys at a party. I am betting this thread did not turn out in any way shape or form that BoNick thought it would from his original post--and I am still kind of dismayed at KMEM's--well I can only call it skewing of the original intention of the the thread. I think I agree with David (8intool's) opinion--although if I have misunderstood David I apologize --that KMEM seems to have something against Scott--and maybe Mason too. The whole thing just seemed kind of petty.

 

Gman

[JT Brooklyn]

Drama Queens

 

Unfortunately "Much to do about Nothing"

 

Discussing the Hunks in "The Wonderful World of the Working Guy" in The DELI is and always will be a much more interesting HOBBY !

 

What this has to do with that is way beyond me?

[+ David-SF]

Thanks Gman

 

whew I am glad I am not the only one that thought that.

I was doing my best to give the benefit of doubt.

 

 

Maybe I was not reading too much into the posts

 

I think Scott's response was excellent. and since it is about him and the level of which this thread has deteriorated I think it was very brave of him to respond in such a intelligent manner when he could have just ignored the posts and moved on.

 

No matter what anyone says I do not buy the belief that we are not affected by what others say or in this case insinuate about us.

 

 

you can have all the thick skin you want

after a while it begins to get to you.

 

maybe that was the idea. if so ............... How sad

[Guest TNT Ted]

Unfortunately "Much to do about Nothing"

 

Discussing the Hunks in "The Wonderful World of the Working Guy" in The DELI is and always will be a much more interesting HOBBY !

 

What this has to do with that is way beyond me?

 

JT, you got that right. Maybe we need a separate forum for SA and BN discussions. They’d be much easier to avoid.

[SAdler]

JMaybe we need a separate forum for SA and BN discussions. They’d be much easier to avoid.

 

Haha, there were a few! EscortSpeak and that other group on Yahoo. Pretty easily avoided. I'm more than happy to agree with you on this one. Trust me, I don't like it anymore than you that topics about me turn into controversial wars because I appreciate the value of posting here helping me in this business. Unfortunately as it's been pointed out there are some individuals who like to take benign topics and make them quite ugly.

[+ sf westcoaster]

Great idea TNT! However we could accomplish the same thing if all of us would just not reply to any thread that involves SA or BN. Would also be a relief if we could find a way to prevent KMEN from responding to every thread that makes mention of BN.

[JT Brooklyn]

JT, you got that right. Maybe we need a separate forum for SA and BN discussions. They’d be much easier to avoid.

 

 

At least keep this Chit-Chat for those Interested in the LOUNGE, where I do believe it usually goes on?

 

Since apparently the Topic has No "Deli" Redeeming value whatsoever.

[zeferrelli]

Amen bart - why does everyone have to be so judgmental/nasty!

[+ Lucky]

Scott has shown a much nicer side in recent months, so I hate to see him get hit where he shouldn't. I originally thought this should have been a private email form BofN to Scott, and I still do.

[KMEM]

I don't think I understand these posts about BN and SA. I never bring up BN or SA until others do. Then I comment with my opinion just like other posters comment with their opinions.

 

It is totally amazing to me that so many posters make a point of mentioning that they do not know either SA or BN and then have intensely personal comments about them. How do they know what they are talking about? Are they just guessing or assuming a whole lot from a little public personna? Do they even care they are making comments from facts not in evidence?

 

At least I do know BN and have known him for 7 years. If I make a logical next statement about SA it will be removed from the MB, so I will stop now.

 

Best regards,

 

KMEM

[JoshAB]

Never say die

 

I wonder what I'll do with my days if this thread ever dies.

 

From the looks of things...I have nothing to worry about.

 

What are we talking about again? Oh ya, SA for POTUS!

[MsGuy]

I wonder what I'll do with my days if this thread ever dies.

 

From the looks of things...I have nothing to worry about.

 

What are we talking about again? Oh ya, SA for POTUS!

 

Given the way this thread is going, someone is bound to attack you for making an subtle slur about SA's age. I'd say threads that mention both SA & BN can have long legs but this one seems about ready to peter out.

[EXPAT]

Every time I run into SA at Numbers, he simply gets hotter and hotter.

[+ David-SF]

R.i.p

 

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[SAdler]

Happy Easter Bitches.

 

Great seeing you tonight EXPAT :-*

 

(I'm sorry ... I couldn't resist but that was a FANTASTIC image)

[EXPAT]

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[Guest AndrewJames]

Love it!