burn in hell?

[Guest jizzdepapi]

http://www.godhatesfags.com/mattinhell.gif

Fred Phelp's memorial to Matthew Shepard: 1271 days in hell and counting! http://www.godhatesfags.com

 

We love you Matt! And we remember!

[CT Dick]

How can Fred Phelps be so intent on Christianity and completely miss the 'love' part?

 

Dick

[Guest IGetAround]

As a Christian, I am appalled by this web site. I bet Mr. Phelps still believes in slavery as well. After all, it is endorsed in the Bible!

 

I believe Matthew is safely in God's arms... no matter what others may think.

[Guest EWC]

He seems to have missed one of the main points of Christianity, which is "there is a God and it is not he."

[Guest jizzdepapi]

The goddess is coming & boy, is she pissed!

 

>He seems to have missed one of the main points of Christianity, which is "there is a God and it is not he."

 

Actually, this gets real interesting, EWC. In 1994, Randall Terry, founder of then then-violent anti-abortion Operation Rescue, spoke at Yale University. By then he had been ousted from Operation Rescue; their violent tactics were turning too many anti-choice folks off and their coffers were suffering subsequently.

 

He found there was a lot more money in an anti-gay agenda, which I'm sure Fred Phelps has found, as well. Terry's message included the notion that there was no need for tolerance or call for it in the Gospel. He also hed up the people who founded this country (and their precedessors) as the ideal, practically declaring them as some sort of messianic delegation.

 

There was lots of heckling. Kind of neat that the chaplains at Yale went through the chapel removing any Christian symbols from the room; they didn't control booking of the chapel so couldn't deny him a forum in their place of worship. He packed the church but most people coming in accepted a pink triangle to wear on their shirt. Women from Yale and local activists (sorry, Reggie; we are legion, just like you-know-who). We tossed inflated condoms around the church while he spoke.

 

And then there were amazing spontaneous outbursts. He was questioned by a terrific Native American-Puerto Rican poet as to rape, land theft and murder practiced by the founders and early "discoverers."

 

Against the threat of arrest and expulsion, a very angry Yale student asked really pointed questions and accused Terry of opportunistically ignoring the real message of the Gospel.

 

The next day, Connecticut media carried extensive coverage (I did the media work, hah!). In articles and TV coverage that I saw, Terry got around 20% attention and we co-opted the rest.

 

Go figure.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>How can Fred Phelps be so intent on Christianity and

>completely miss the 'love' part?

 

Frankly, I'm amazed that some radical gay hasn't put a bullet through his head - or better yet - tie him to a split rail fence on some lonely deserted road and pistol whip him to death.

 

I know there are those that would argue that he would then become a martyr. I really could care less - at least the world would be rid of his scourge

 

Thunderbuns

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

The Laramie Project

 

For those of you who have not seen the broadcast of this play, rest assured it will most likely be on video and DVD shortly and you should make a point of watching. For those of you who wish to consider the point of "radical gays" you may consider renting "The Living End" which is out on videotape. It would be better to ignore people like Mr. Phelps because that would infuriate him and his followers the most. While they may be a loud and opinionated bunch, they are far from the opinion leaders they make themselves out to be. Public opinion has and will continue to change. Before 2004, an employment discrimination act for gay and lesbian will most assuredly be passed by the congress and Bush will sign it as a prelude to wanting to be reelected.

[Guest RushNY]

as a "semi-lapsed" Catholic it saddens me to see that even in the 21st century so many people can still hate with such venom and strength i remember being appalled at the Matthew Shepherd case and thinking thank god i dont live in somewhere like that and i too think that he is a better place now somewhere where who you are and who you love is not such a huge issue sometimes i think we are all in hell living every day here on earth and when we do die we go somewhere better.I do hope so...... :-(

[Bilbo]

RE: The Laramie Project

 

I loved the story about the gay bar that made sure that noone bothered Mr. Phelps and then took bets on when he would leave, giving the profits to an AIDS charity.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

RE: The Laramie Project

 

>Public opinion has and will continue to change.

>Before 2004, an employment discrimination act for gay and

>lesbian will most assuredly be passed by the congress and

>Bush will sign it as a prelude to wanting to be reelected.

 

Isn't it a disgrace that he will sign it hoping to attract votes in his run for re-election? How much better it would be if he signed it because he feels it was right!

 

Thunderbuns

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Sad but true

 

There I times I wonder about moving back to Europe and reclaiming my citzenship. Of course, I would probably have to find a different line of work....

[+ deej]

>i remember being appalled at the Matthew

>Shepherd case and thinking thank god i dont live in

>somewhere like that

 

Ah, but you do. We all do. Even the most tolerant communities have the potential for harboring these jerks.

 

Chicago is not what you'd consider a hate-mongering town, but every year during the Gay Pride parade there are a handful of protesters carrying signs saying "GOD HATES FAGS" etc. They stand, stoically, holding their ignorance high in the air.

 

There's never more than a handful. They never say a word. They have an officially sanctioned spot and usually a heavy police guard. The crowd ignores them (although the passing floats don't, and they probably see more prime butt that day than any avid porn fan does in a year -- mooning them has become something of a sport*).

 

But they are there. And just like us, they are everywhere.

 

(*I asked a cop who was assigned to fag-hater patrol why they aren't ticketing the mooners. He said "hell I want to moon 'em myself!" LOL)

[Guest RushNY]

>>i remember being appalled at the Matthew

>>Shepherd case and thinking thank god i dont live in

>>somewhere like that

>

>Ah, but you do. We all do. Even the most tolerant

>communities have the potential for harboring these jerks.

>

True deej,even in a city as big as NY with a population of what 17 million i see it every day just last week i was called to an assault where a young guy a student at Columbia U was beaten by three other guys because they had decided he was a "fag"and needed to be taught a lesson ,i think the original thinking behind the words was as a born and bred New Yorker i can melt into the crowds in a small town in Wyoming where everybody knows everyone and their business it must have been absolute hell on earth but you are right jerks exist everywhere in all shapes and sizes.

[+ Axiom2001]

>>How can Fred Phelps be so intent on Christianity and

>>completely miss the 'love' part?

>

>Frankly, I'm amazed that some radical gay hasn't put a

>bullet through his head - or better yet - tie him to a split

>rail fence on some lonely deserted road and pistol whip him

>to death.

>

>I know there are those that would argue that he would then

>become a martyr. I really could care less - at least the

>world would be rid of his scourge

>

>Thunderbuns

 

Thunderbuns, those kinds of things fail to happen to folks who expouse the HATE and VENOM of the likes of Phelps. Look what happened to the alleged murderers of Megar Evers and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and other killers and haters of individuals who made a mark or were killed--the perpertrator/s went unpunished....undetected--unpunished for years-- sometimes decades or NOT AT ALL.

[+ Axiom2001]

>As a Christian, I am appalled by this web site. I bet Mr.

>Phelps still believes in slavery as well. After all, it is

>endorsed in the Bible!

>

>I believe Matthew is safely in God's arms... no matter what

>others may think.

 

 

Amen! I am with you!

[+ Axiom2001]

RE: Sad but true

 

Men, you all responded oh, so eloquently and provocatively, but remember, Fred Phelps has been around with his hypocrisy, vile rhetoric, and venom for a while, now. He first raised his ugly head (dick head) when he went to Washington, D.C., in 1994 during the National Gay/Lesbian/Transgender, etc. March. On his return to dear ole Topeka, Kansas, he claimed that he was harrassed and desparaged by some of the gay men and women who happened to have been returning on the same flight as he! It made national news.

 

Unfortunately, he and others like him did their firey blasting of us as we marched the long route on that glorious and memorable day in April some eight years ago. Fortunately, my friends and many others IGNORED this ignorance, this fool. I hope that what he does WILL BACKFIRE on his ass!

 

But to sum it up in a nutshell:who will be the judge come the time? Man or (if you are a believer) God?

[bluenix]

RE: The Laramie Project

 

>Isn't it a disgrace that he will sign it hoping to attract

>votes in his run for re-election? How much better it would

>be if he signed it because he feels it was right!

 

Cue theme for The West Wing.

 

:7

[Guest Thunderbuns]

RE: Sad but true

 

>But to sum it up in a nutshell:who will be the judge come

>the time? Man or (if you are a believer) God?

 

I am reminded of the remark that was attributed to an American soldier when ask how he felt about Bin what's his face.

 

"It is God's job to judge him. Our job is to arrange the meeting"

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest pshaw]

Fred Phelps Exposed

 

Phelps and his clan (most of his church is comprised of family members) were at their act long before Matthew Shepard, picketing the funerals of AIDS victims and harassing anyone in the Topeka area perceived as being the least bit sympathetic to gays. For a look at how sleazy this guy and his family are, you may want to check out this extensive expose:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/michael_haggerty/expose3.htm

[+ deej]

RE: Sad but true

 

>I am reminded of the remark that was attributed to an

>American soldier when ask how he felt about Bin what's his

>face.

>

>"It is God's job to judge him. Our job is to arrange the

>meeting"

 

That American soldier is General Norman Scwartzkopf, commander in chief during Operation Desert Storm.

 

And I happen to agree with him. }>

[Guest regulation]

RE: The Laramie Project

 

>Public opinion has and will continue to change.

>Before 2004, an employment discrimination act for gay and

>lesbian will most assuredly be passed by the congress and

>Bush will sign it as a prelude to wanting to be reelected.

 

I would put the chances of such legislation getting through Congress during the next two years somewhere between "slim" and "none." With Tom DeLay becoming the next House Majority Leader? Actually, "none" sounds about right.

 

As for Bush, you have it backwards. The closer we get to November 2004 the more concerned he will be about shoring up his support among his party's right wing. He and Rove have always believed that a lack of support on the right caused his father's defeat in 92.