Musings on The Latest Scams

[Guest MattAdams]

After about 6 years of observing the effect of the Internet on the male escort business I am always amazed about the growth of certain practices.

 

Let me give some examples:

 

There is one LA "producer"...I say producer because I really don't know what to call him. He is now on his fourth or fifth reincarnation of the Internet scam of the century. About five years ago he was peddling an idea about escorts on CD as the next great marketing method. Then there was that porn agency with one well know porn star signed up for a $60,000 a year contract and offices in several major cities. Then there was that porn scheme in LA with a big introductory show at that big club. Now there is this web cam scheme. What always amazes me is his ability to recruit porn stars and escorts as fronts and to front the money as well.

 

Then there are the latest and greatest websites which seem to serve more as a black book for some webmasters than a real business. So you get to be on someone's speed dial.

 

Even some of the more respectable websites fall on hard times. One in particular changed overnight and has not honored payments from escorts for preferred placement. Not small amounts mind you.

 

Well it has been a fun week comparing notes and seeing that the more things change the more things seem to stay the same.

 

Now this is not to say there aren't a few dishonest escorts out there...oh, I forgot honor among thieves.

 

Matt Adams

[Guest CraigSF39]

>He, as well as anyone on this site, has every right to say

>what he's said. Matt wrote an incomprehensible post that has

>people confused. Let's let him try to explain what the hell

>he was talking about.

 

how many books have you writen? its easy to be critical of others who have done so much for us but until youve done as much as matt adams you should be more respectful.

 

THANK YOU MATT!!!! youve helped me and alot of my friends, to.we apreciate it :7

[Will]

Perhaps I'm alone in this, but to me this thread is utterly incomprehensible. If you're warning us about a scam, why not be specific? If you're just being bitchy, what good does it do if nobody understands what you're talking about? Please clarify.

[Guest N]

Totally agree with Will!

[Guest LG320126]

I third that motion. What the hell is he babbling about?

[Boston Guy]

I agree it's unclear.

 

When I first read it, I was wondering if part of what he was referring to were the changes at Escorts4you.com... seems to be a complete makeover although you can still find the old site if you really look.

[+ deej]

>When I first read it, I was wondering if part of what he was

>referring to were the changes at Escorts4you.com...

 

I had the same thought. A pal has been trying to advertise there for over six months with no luck at all.

 

Overall, though, I read the post and thought "huh?"

[Guest Kenny021]

I'll be the fourth to agree with that....what the hell is all that about????

[Guest CZ]

I think Matt just likes to hear himself talk. Long ago, when I read that book he wrote about the hustling scene, I found most of it to be so much hot air. And his postings here have been more of the same: a useful comment every now & then, but mostly faux-insider talk and self-important pronouncements.

[Guest CraigSF39]

matt adams is a very important part of the comunity, and he is a very important person, he has written extremely good books and reported great, how many books have you written?

 

you have no right to say bad things about some one who is so important and who has done so much for all of us, when your an athor, then yes, you can say it, but until then you should have respect for someone like him.

[Guest bottomboykk]

He, as well as anyone on this site, has every right to say what he's said. Matt wrote an incomprehensible post that has people confused. Let's let him try to explain what the hell he was talking about.

[+ deej]

>how many books have you writen?

 

This isn't about who is/isn't an author, but I'll answer the question you asked bbkk. I've written four technical books and tech edited two others.

 

So I'm an author. This seems to be some sort of bellwhether with you.

 

I echo bbkk's sentiments: members of this forum (yourself included) are entitled to voice their opinions. There is language (also written by me) in the Message Center Rules to specifically protect that right.

 

Since you are vigorously defending Matt Adams' post, perhaps you'd care to explain it? None of us has a clue about what he's posted, but you seem to.

 

Go ahead. Explain it to us.

[+ Lucky]

I haven't written a book, although I almost read one many years ago. But, nonetheless, I still didn't understand Matt Adams' post and am waiting for Craig to explain it all for me.

He isn't a cookbook author is he? Cuz I tried this recipe for Gramma's noodles and they were all sticky.

[Guest 7Zach]

Well, I am still recovering from the line about how much Matt's book has meant to all of us. BTW, for the rice reference in this and other thread, I always brown in butter before cooking; let's less of the starch out. Even better, after browing, bake covered in oven with twice as much rice as water (or part water, stock) at 350 for an hour exactly. Stir when taking out.

[Guest CraigSF39]

>This isn't about who is/isn't an author, but I'll answer the

>question you asked bbkk. I've written four technical books

>and tech edited two others.

 

books for your office job dont count, im talking about books sold in an actual store that peopel can by.

 

>Since you are vigorously defending Matt Adams' post, perhaps

>you'd care to explain it? None of us has a clue about what

>he's posted, but you seem to.

 

matts post was complicated because hes a very smart man, i dont claim to understand every thing he says, his book meant a lot to me and did a lot for me and my friends, our lives are better because of him and i dont think many pepoel can say the same for your technicl books.

 

im not saying matt is always rite, just that he deserves respect as an important gay athor who has done alot for us all, i didnt like the meaness that was being directed to him by your bottom frend and others, sometimes peopel deserve a brake, especially someone like matt adams.

[Guest Charon]

>how many books have you writen?

 

I wrote the bible and I still don't understand what Matt's talking about. Maybe I should have added an 11th commandment about not posting while drunk or stoned. Oh well, maybe in the next edition.

[Will]

As it was I who began this string of posts by asking Matt Adams to tell us what he meant in simple language, I'd like to respond to this impassioned defense of Mr. Adams's character, which, unless I too cannot follow a conversation, has not been impugned.

 

Furthermore, until this minute, for more than two years I have maintained my promise to myself that on M4M I would create an on-line persona for myself that is far more measured, gentle, and long-suffering than I am in "real life." But this does it.

 

So here goes, you pea-brained twit: ">books for your office job dont count, im talking about books sold in an actual store that peopel can by."

 

I have published two books. They sell in bookstores, and I have made a lot of money from them.

 

I have also published a ton of technical articles. For professional people -- as opposed to semi-literate hourly workers, especially those who pretend that they can neither spell nor put together a simple declarative sentence according to the rules of English syntax -- "books for your office job" count a hell of a lot more than "books sold in an actual store." I would gladly trade a truckload of trash fiction (and most gay "non-fiction" fits into that category) for a single 100-page book written clearly and intelligently on how to repair a television set.

 

>

>matts post was complicated because hes a very smart man, i

>dont claim to understand every thing he says, his book meant

>a lot to me and did a lot for me and my friends, our lives

>are better because of him and i dont think many pepoel can

>say the same for your technicl books.

>

 

I'm not sure of your comparanda regarding Matt Adams's being "a very smart man," but in my circles the default indicator of being "a very smart man" is the consistent ability to express oneself elegantly and unambiguously. The power to state a complex argument in simple language is a hallmark of great intelligence. Have you ever heard the statements "Cogito ergo sum" or "E=MC2"? Along with "Jesus wept," those are two of the most famous statements of complex wisdom in the entire history of Western civilization.

 

 

>im not saying matt is always rite, just that he deserves

>respect

 

To say that someone's speech is gibberish isn't to say that he's not worthy of respect. You, for example, are worthy of respect. Even so, you have convinced me that that the transparently self-evident truth of that statement is almost certain to be lost in the vast, empty spaces between your ears. For your own contribution to the world's wisdom, may I suggest you adopt as your motto the pithy, but profound, "What, me worry?"

[Guest LG320126]

Why don't you marry him if you're so damn enamoured with him?

[Guest JT]

>Have you ever heard the statements

>"Cogito ergo sum" or "E=MC2"? Along with "Jesus wept,"

>those are two of the most famous statements of complex

>wisdom in the entire history of Western civilization.

 

Sorry Will, I think you forgot to mention another great statement of wisdom (in the entire history of Western civilization?),

 

"you pea-brained twit." }>

 

How appropriate and written with such amazing grace...I'm impressed!!!

 

 

JT

[Guest WetDream]

Bravo, Will! And congratulations on releasing your inner tigress. }>

[Guest JT]

Out of respect for Matt and the request by Crapx#o! (sorry, for some reasons, I don't seem to be able to spell/type his name coreectly), Matt's original post has been translated by learned scholars around the world into Greek, Latin, English, French, Spanish, Greman, English, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, English, and 100 other languages in an attempt to gain some understanding and insights into Matt's post. Dr. Harry Potsmoker, an expert on the Hallucin language, was the only one who was successful in translating AND interpreting Matt's writing. He has suggested that the post may be part of the Dead Sea...oh no he means the Deadly Stoned Scroll.

 

 

JT

[+ deej]

Jeez, Will, I didn't know you had it in you. ROFL

[Guest Stephan-Lacoste]

one time I have respected Matt, not anymore. Won't go into details but Alec Powers had enough as well.

So if you want to talk about respect, let's say that he is getting the same respect that he gave to others.

Now I know my english sucks, but Still I understand better TruthTeller's post that the one on the top here. And I'm not the only one agreeing about it but TruthTeller posts are complicated :+

[Guest TruthTeller]

>Jeez, Will, I didn't know you had it in you. ROFL

 

Oh, my - look at what we have here - the Paragrons of Civility and Good Manners - the self-anointed High Priests of Kindness and Grace - congratulating and laughing with their Holy Father of Kindness, Will, for calling someone a "pea-brained twit".

 

I guess all the tears that are shed in the name of Niceness - all the sermons we endure about the evils of name-calling and being mean - all have a built-in exemption whenever the Priests of Goodness decide that someone warrants some harsh treatment -- only, of course, by THEM.

 

Gosh, this wouldn't be an example of grotesque hypocrisy, would it?

[Guest Stephan-Lacoste]

You got that one right but even with that 11th commandment , they would not understand because they are " high ".......x(