Escorts and arrival time

[Guest roninx]

This happened awhile ago with a reputable escort. I had set up an appointment for 11 AM for an incall and everything was fine.

 

I arrived about 5 minutes early and rang the door bell. The escort answered (sounding groggy) and asked me to come back on 5 minutes because he had to shower.

 

I was a little stunned because I was only 5 minutes early. I can understand if I have arrive 15 minutes early and he was occupied but I didn't think 5 minutes would be a big deal. He also sounded like he had just woken up.

 

The session was rather rushed and the escort wasn't rude but I got the impression he was upset that I had arrived early. This had been my first experience which I made clear. The escort wasn't excessively rough but wasn't very gentle either. In the end he got off but I was left holding the bag. I nicely asked if he could at least get me off orally which he did try but after a few minutes, he apologized but that he was late for a doctor's appointment. So I cleaned up in the bathroom and left but for someone who was late for an appointment, he wasn't rushing out the door. He was still in the apt.

 

My question is does arriving 5 minutes early really that upsetting? I have since used other escorts with no problems.

[jack]

I just happen to check in The Lounge (to see if Red's had been raided yet, becuase I plan to be in NY tomorrow) and read the question which is very simple to answer. For an appointment with anybody, expecially a business which the escort is in, a doctor, an insurance company, a masseur, a barber, anybody, it is routine to arrive ten minutes before the time expected. The escort is, then, a stupid business person and will not last in the business. You are a very patient person and should expect more from the people you do business with. Plus, the fact he blew the blowjob is spectacular and in keeping with his dedication to his business which business happens to succede by word of mouth.

[Guest Huffy]

>For an

>appointment with anybody, expecially a business which the

>escort is in, a doctor, an insurance company, a masseur, a

>barber, anybody, it is routine to arrive ten minutes before

>the time expected.

 

Nice analogy except for one thing: an in-call takes place at an escort's home. Maybe the escort has personal things he is attending to before you arrive. Doctors, insurance companies and barbers are in commercial space and have waiting areas for your convenience. They also line up their customers back to back. How can you compare escorts to these businesses and hold them to the same standards? The best escorts do not see many clients in one day, and if they do see more than one, they usually spread them out over the course of the day. If they see clients back to back, we as clients frown upon it. Do you expect your doctor to see only one or two patients per day, or your barber to cut only 2 heads of hair per day, or for them to have a few hours' break in between? Arriving at an escort's home is more akin to arriving at someone's home for dinner. You wouldn't arrive 10 minutes early and possibly catch your host unprepared. That would show poor etiquette. Arriving early is rude to the escort. Now, you're going to say "but this is a business and he's getting paid" but isn't it also true that you as a client don't want to be treated as a "client" but more like a "lover" for that hour? The best escorts' reviews always mention how they made the client feel like the escort wasn't doing it for the money & treated him respectfully. Let's try treating the escort with the same respect. Arrive on time, not early.

[Guest starfucker]

Arriving at an escort's home is more akin

>to arriving at someone's home for dinner. You wouldn't

>arrive 10 minutes early and possibly catch your host

>unprepared. That would show poor etiquette.

 

Your trifocals must have slipped. The fact declared indicated the client was 5 minutes early, not 10. A mindful host would never greet his guest by banishing him to the elements because the hors d'oeurves were not yet on a doily. The ability to spell etiquette doesn't presume the definition.

 

> Let's try treating the escort with the same respect.

 

Would you say the escort showed respect for the customer with his lack of preparedness? The failure to apologize for his initial and subsequent disdainful behavior is a fitting example of rude.

 

Perhaps the escort hoped the client might be fashionably late? Then he could rush him out short of an hour due to a fabricated proctology appointment for which he must certainly arrive 10 minutes early.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Huffy,

 

I'm pretty much with you on this one. I'm not a stickler for time myself. I don't get pushed out of shape if an escort arrives a few minutes early or late... but I know others do. I recall posts of pissed clients complaining of escorts arriving early. I suspect that they feel not totally prepared to meet the escort and maybe some lack of comfort in leaving the escort alone while they finish their preparation. I cannot fault an escort if they have similar feelings.

 

I NEVER arrive early for an incall with someone I don't already know, even if I am early. I wait until the appointed time. If the argument is that it is only five minutes early thus no big deal then I say it is no bigger deal to wait the five minutes. Also, if I did know the escort I still would never arrive early without calling first -- it is only courtesy. I feel that it is, at the least, a little rude and possibly putting the escort on the spot if they are not prepared for me -- and I don't expect them to be if I am early.

 

I also don't understand the complaint that the escort seemed unready five minutes before the appointment. He has no committment to be ready then. Save the complaint for when he is not ready at the appointed time. One then has a case if they wish to make it.

 

It seems so simple to me... just common courtesy on both sides.

[Guest]

Although a few people have chimed in to say that you should arrive right on the nose, it usually isn't that simple. There are many factors involved when you come to someone's home (escort or otherwise) that can affect the timing. Traffic is unpredictable. You don't know where you'll find parking. Are there one-way streets affecting traffic movement? In general, most people arrive somewhat early when hiring someone for a specific time period, because if they arrive late, they may lose out on the time period for which they were late.

The timing factors become more difficult if you're a client from out of town, or if you have to drive in a significant distance. Telling someone to "hang around" for 5 or 10 minutes may not be terribly practical either. If you're in an urban setting, the residents going in and out of an apartment complex may not appreciate a stranger "hanging around" the entry area, and there may also be safety issues if the escort doesn't live in one of the nicer parts of town. In more suburban settings, many neighbors will get concerned if they see someone they're not familiar with just waiting in his car for no apparent reason, and may call the police. Finally, it's just too damned cold this time of year to ask someone to "cool his heels" outside because he's a few minutes early.

Of course, if you had been late, it wouldn't surprise me if the escort would have cut your time short because you were late. Many (not necessarily most) escorts are not morning people, and quite a few like the escort lifestyle just because clients rarely hire escorts in the morning, and they like rolling out of bed at noon. My suspicion is that the guy you hired was one of these escorts. I also think it was rude of him not to be ready, or just about, 5 minutes before "showtime."

Often, if I'm coming in a ways, I will tell the escort that because of the distance/traffic patterns from where I'm coming, I may be 10 minutes early or late, and ask him if he has a problem with that. I'm not going to hang around the neighborhood looking like a lurker. Even without this admonition, I can't see how being 5 minutes early should be a problem (and probably, for a good escort, even 10 minutes, though anything more is pushing it). A good escort should understand that it's not possible to time an arrival "on the nose" unless you live only a few minutes away--and he should prepare accordingly.

[Guest jeffOH]

I always appreciate it when a client arrives at the scheduled time.

A few minutes early or late isn't really a big deal, but if they arrive more than 15 minutes early they may have to wait a few minutes until I am ready. I usually don't start getting ready for a client until around an hour before the appointment. I know exactly how long it's going to take me to get ready. I am not the most punctual escort, but if I am going to be more than 10 minutes late, I will call the client to tell them so. I have had clients arrive a half hour late without a phone call. In a situation such as that, I may cut the session short, particularly if I don't care if I ever see them again. It really depends on their attitude.

 

I once had a client who was driving from out of town to see me who arrived a whole hour early. Like I am just sitting around here with my ass lubed up an rarin' to go. I just don't know what is going through some guy's heads. Or, I love the guys who call and want to come over right away, but when I tell them I need at least an hour's notice that just won't work for them. I'm not a last minute hooker.

 

Jeff4hire@aol.com

[Donnie]

>I'm not going to hang around the

>neighborhood looking like a lurker.

 

Yeah, it's bad enough that you show up looking like an ugly old troll.

[Guest tmbg]

>>For an

>>appointment with anybody, expecially a business which the

>>escort is in, a doctor, an insurance company, a masseur, a

>>barber, anybody, it is routine to arrive ten minutes before

>>the time expected.

>

>Nice analogy except for one thing: an in-call takes place at

>an escort's home. Maybe the escort has personal things he

>is attending to before you arrive. Doctors, insurance

>companies and barbers are in commercial space and have

>waiting areas for your convenience.

 

An escort who uses his home for in-calls is turning his place into a commercial establishment. When the client was 5 minutes early I doubt he would have ever dreamed that it was going to send the escort into such a dizzy spell. I wonder what sort of tramua the escort would have experienced if the client was 5 minutes late :-)

 

Cheers! Ritchie

[Guest Huffy]

>Your trifocals must have slipped. The fact declared

>indicated the client was 5 minutes early, not 10.

 

Any fool can see that I was responding to Jack's statement that "it is routine to arrive ten minutes before the time expected" and not to the original post. I even quoted it. Maybe it was your trifocals, honey.

 

>> Let's try treating the escort with the same respect.

>

>Would you say the escort showed respect for the customer

>with his lack of preparedness? The failure to apologize for

>his initial and subsequent disdainful behavior is a fitting

>example of rude.

 

I agree that the escort in the original post, if what roninx says is true, acted unprofessionally and rudely. I was obviously speaking in general terms. I was neither defending nor criticizing the escort of roninx's post. Next time, try reading before you respond.

[Bilbo]

Absolutely agree with you, Jeff, on the one hour notice rule. People who tried to break it used to rile me, then to amaze me, now they just amuse me. They are "not real".

 

I also start getting ready for an appointment just about an hour before arrival, but it doesn't upset me if someone is as much as 15 minutes early. They can just talk with me as they watch me getting ready for them, on the clock. The easy comeraderie is rather like letting them get you hard rather than being hard as soon as you strip and staying that way till they leave - much more intimate, in some ways.

 

BTW, I had an early client the other day and he sat down with some porn to wait the few minutes while I set up the table - he wanted to be chained to the table as I gave him a massage and since he is just about the only one who ever wants that I had mistakenly set up for just a regular leather session - when I got back to the room he was in he was already looking at one of my coffee table books instead. He said he didn't like those young guys who were hung just too big to even spark his interest. And he's not the only one who's made comments about superhung not being interested. Now, this time he was the top magazine I gave him of five had Ken Ryker on the cover, but it obviously wasn't the only one he had looked at. And I remember another client who said the same thing about many guys who were basically average for the guys who make it into the mags. Oops, don't mean to totally hijack this thread, but isn't it amazing. Worth noting but probably not worth its own thread.

:-)

[+ Lucky]

Donnie, Donnie, Donnie. Such a sweetheart!

 

(I would have posted this five minutes ago, but waited to be fashionably late!)

[CT Dick]

It's amazing to me how often escorts arrive EXACTLY on time. This does not seem the kind of field that attracts type A's but I' say that 90% are within 5 minutes either side of the appointed time.

 

BTW, Ronix, I consider 5 minutes before or after as being on the button.:7

 

Dick

[Boston Guy]

I suggest three things to escorts and clients alike:

 

(a) Calm down and take it a bit easier and relax a little; this is supposed to be fun;

 

(b) Communicate, communicate, communicate. If you're going to be late, communicate that face. If you're going to be early, try not to be much more than a few minutes early but if it's unavoidable (i.e., you just got off the subway and don't feel safe waiting outside at 4:00 am), communicate: tell the escort why you are early and offer to sit quietly until the time of the appointment or even to leave and come back if need be;

 

© Give the other guy a break. Everyone is human and everyone screws up. If someone is a little early or a little late for an appointment, the earth isn't going to stop turning -- trust me. And if you (the client or the escort) are booking appointments so close together that 5 or 10 minutes is going to kill you, take a fourth piece of advice and open up your schedule slightly. You'll be amazed at how much better you'll feel.

 

If the other party has arrived early, welcome him, even if you have apologetically say "I'm not ready yet, so do you want to sit over there and look at that magazine or do you want to go get us both a cup of coffee or do you want to join me in the shower?" Or "I still have to dry my hair but why don't you come on into the bathroom and talk to me while finish up.

 

I mean, this is someone you are about to see naked and have some kind of carnal relations with.... it isn't really a big deal if he sees you unshaven or with wet hair. Give the guy a break and treat him the way you would hope to be treated if you were in his shoes.

 

Even if you think he's been a cad, treat him like a prince. You'll probably amaze him with your aplomb and, even if not, you'll feel good because you'll know that you treated a fellow human being well.

 

BG

[Guest WetDream]

RE: Welcome back...

 

Boston Guy. We missed you and your posts.

[Boston Guy]

RE: Welcome back...

 

Thank you! That was nice of you to say that. :-)

[Guest cp8036]

5 mins early or late is on time..

 

The FAA allows 15 mins to elapse before a flight is considered late.