What is your favorite guilty pleasure?

[Guest man2man4u40]

I was leafing through yet another International Male catalog, they seem to come weekly, and even though 95% of the stuff I wouldn't be caught dead wearing, I have to admit that I really do LOVE going through their catalogs. Most of the guys have bods to die for and there's this one latino model with a gymnast type bod that wears these leather lace up pants and oh.... I just can't stop drooling, in more ways than one :9.

 

Other favorite guilty pleasures?

[Rick Munroe]

The M4M ER message center.

[Guest RushNY]

Hey dude,i suppose i shouldnt say this but i actually buy stuff from IM ,although it seems like the 90s never happened,half that stuff looks like it came outta Miami Vice mind you the 80s was probably the last time i was fashionable:),i havent had a catalog for a while but the website is good fun its at http://www.intmale.com dunno if they use the same photos as the catalog but some of the guys sure are hot,check out the dude modeling the leather shorts (whooo baby),hed be enough to brighten up anybodys day :9

[Traveller]

Pagan worship (provided it involves sacrificing virgins), insider trading, 3 feet of powder (for either downhill or upnose), bombing muslims and the Baker twins.

 

Later.

[Guest exFratBoy]

Comment A:

Few things were as funny as watching my str8 frat brothers opening up their mailboxes to find the International Male catalog inside. Lots of turning pink, then red, as they'd turn it cover side down before anyone could see it, only to discover that the back cover also had pics of near-naked guys in thongs.

I think IM used to buy mailing lists from GQ, Men's Health, Details and the like, so the catalogs arrived pretty frequently.

 

Comment B:

The movie Zoolander, which is hilarious, btw, has a scene where they talk about Ben Stiler's male supermodel character having appeared in International Male. Fast-forward to an interview with some spokesqueen from one of the modeling agencies (Boss, I think) who had his panties all in a twist, aghast at the thought that one of their male models would stoop so low as to appear in International Male. You'da thought they were asking a booker at the Ford Agency if their girls also appeared in Hustler.

 

As for myself, I'll take the guys in IM over the skanky little twinks in fashion ads any day.

[Guest TruthTeller]

>Few things were as funny as watching my str8 frat brothers . . . .

 

At some point, don't you think that you should stop building your whole identity around some little college club that you belonged to however many fucking years ago you belonged? We get it already - you're real masculine and not effeminate and not a queen -- and the proof is that you were in a fraternity. Anything else?

 

>As for myself, I'll take the guys in IM over the skanky

>little twinks in fashion ads any day.

 

That's because opposites attract, and the "skanky little twinks in fashion ads" can't pound your hole and turn it into a twat and make it bleed like you so urgently crave.

 

And, it's that urgent need of yours which makes you equally desperate to announce to the world -- again and again -- how masculine you are and what a "queen" others are. The same way closted gay men are often the most virulently homophobic - those who are most desperate to establish their masculinity are usually the ones who feel that they have no masculinity at all and are nothing but gaping vaginas.

[SmallTownJohn]

Well...

 

 

She took that one & ran with it:0)

 

 

John

[Traveller]

>The same

>way closted gay men are often the most virulently homophobic

>- those who are most desperate to establish their

>masculinity are usually the ones who feel that they have no

>masculinity at all and are nothing but gaping vaginas.

 

T2

 

I keep telling you that we will have no mention of gaping vaginas on this board (see triple top secret message center rule no. 482). Prolapsed vaginas, certainly; but no more GAPING VAGINAS. Remember, visual out, not in.

 

Later.

[Guest exFratBoy]

>twinks in fashion ads" can't pound your hole and turn it

>into a twat and make it bleed like you so urgently crave.

>

 

Gosh, TT.

Thank you so much for taking such a thorough interest in my life and my psychological well-being. I'm really flattered that you've taken so much time and effort to help me and guide me through my tender years. So many people here think you're just a bitter old troll with too much time on his hands, but this last post shows me that deep down you're just a big old softie with a wacky sense of humor!

 

Hugs and sloppy wet French kisses, you big ole goofball!

 

XXOO

 

EFB

[Guest regulation]

>And, it's that urgent need of yours which makes you equally

>desperate to announce to the world -- again and again -- how

>masculine you are and what a "queen" others are. The same

>way closted gay men are often the most virulently homophobic

>- those who are most desperate to establish their

>masculinity are usually the ones who feel that they have no

>masculinity at all and are nothing but gaping vaginas.

 

Or maybe the problem is that a lot of men in this country who have homoerotic desires feel alienated from the small group who have created what is called the "gay scene" and wish to emphasize that they aren't and don't want to be part of it. No one has been elected to define gay culture in this country, but it seems to me that a small minority of the men who actually have homoerotic desires have taken it upon themselves to define it. Not surprisingly, this self-appointed committee have created a definition that includes things with which they are comfortable and excludes things with which they are not. They then accuse anyone of "homophobia" or "self-loathing" who finds distasteful any of the things they have included in their definition. It's a great scam. I wish I'd thought of it.

[Guest exFratBoy]

Hey, don't be mad at TT. He's just a big cuddly ole joker. You see, he doesn't want me to become one of these self-hating homophobes, so he's gone out of his way to help me see the light. And he's doing it for you too!

You can't ask for a better pal now, can you?

I know he comes off as gruff and nasty, but he's just a big ole kidder the way he makes fun of those guys you're talking about. But I'm telling you, deep down he's just one big sweetheart who's looking out for all us other guys here. You can't help but love him for that!

[CT Dick]

>Pagan worship (provided it involves sacrificing virgins),

>insider trading, 3 feet of powder (for either downhill or

>upnose) bombing muslims

 

IMHO, that is not only not funny, it's offensive.

 

Dick

[Guest regulation]

>You

>can't help but love him for that!

 

I don't love him, but neither am I mad at him. I find his posts very interesting. They're opinionated and aggressive, two qualities I like. I just don't agree with some of his opinions. I think I've made it clear I don't agree that gay men who emphasize their masculinity do so because they hate their own homoerotic desires. I think what many of them (us) really hate is the notion that we don't have the right to express our distaste for effeminacy in men.

[Guest Java]

I believe T2 was only expressing (rather than explicitly telling us of) one of his guilty pleasures as this thread concerns. What his guilty pleasure is one must discern from his post, rather like the plot of "Seven." Likewise, getting to the heart of it tends to get a bit bloody. I just hope that there is a Brad Pitt character lurking here somewhere. }>

[Guest TruthTeller]

>Or maybe the problem is that a lot of men in this country

>who have homoerotic desires feel alienated from the small

>group who have created what is called the "gay scene" and

>wish to emphasize that they aren't and don't want to be part

>of it.

 

Believe me, I share your antipathy for the self-anointed homosexuals who seek to impose a Gay Orthodoxy - both political and social - on anyone or anything remotely gay. The political orthodoxy takes the form of the most extreme politically correct liberalism/socialism that exists, and the related social orthodoxy entails an embrace of all things pseudo-elitist, pretensious, superficial, effeminate and tawdry - and a hatred for attributes of strength, masculinity, aggressivity and individuality. These Paragons of Diversity and Tolerance are vindictive and rabid whenever anyone deviates from these orthodoxies, seeking to punish and crush dissent.

 

Nonetheless, this does not negate the following two points, the first of which I was making in response to ExFratBoy's pathological need to establish his own masculinity for the benefit of others, the second of which I'm now making in respose to your post:

 

(1) There is a difference - a fundamental difference - between being masculine and desperately needing to convince others of your masculinity. In general, anyone who has a need repeatedly to proclaim to others that they possess a certain attribute -- "I am X"; "I am X"; "REALLY, I am X" -- does so out of a fear that they lack X. Those who have a comfortable relationship to their own masculinity have no need to convince others that they are masculine. The need to convince others can arise only from a fear that others see that they lack it.

 

(2) The image of homosexuals as weak, frightened pussies in dresses and lipstick -- or as bathhouse predators singularly obssessed with perverted sex -- has been largely dispelled. Certainly there are segments of the population which still cling to this imagery, but the vast majority of the population has been exposed to enough gay military officers, hunters, policemen, and most of all, general boring accountant-type neighbors, to know that homosexuals take every form.

 

Even if the image lingers more than I suggest, it's no excuse for some gay person to hide who they are out of fear of being associated with things that they are not. Justifying their self-denials on the ground that they have a good reason for their fear is to justify their cowardice, and is just a form of excuse-finding and victimolgy. "They don't want to hide who they are, but they're victims of transvestites and other assorted queens who make it too hard for them to come out."

 

The "gay committee", as you call it, will lose its power and stranglehold on defining All Things Gay only when those who deviate from its views cause it to lose its power and stranglehold.

[Guest 7Zach]

Too funny, John, and whilst you're educating the public about hillbillies, please be sure and tell them, that in the Cherokee language, there was not a long "A", and so the word is Appalachia with short a Short "A" in all 3 places.

btw, trailors are now "pre fabs"; the finns and swedes were the first to build them, so they're quite fashionable, I hear. Aren't some of those backdrops in IM of double-wides?

[Guest 7Zach]

In my straight high school days, those shots were called "split beaver", and if really good, "split glistening beaver"...

[Guest 7Zach]

I thought it was big old softie who worked at Barney's?

[Guest 7Zach]

We all appreciated your effort over the last two weeks for a "kinder, gentler" Truthteller, which is certainly in line with your politics. I guess it was just too exhausting.

[Guest exFratBoy]

>In my straight high school days, those shots were called

>"split beaver", and if really good, "split glistening

>beaver"...

 

There you go - pathologically trying to proclaim your masculinity!

Didn't you learn anything from what kind old Mr. TT was teaching us?

Every time you even mention that you were anything other than gay, or that you find the antics of stereotypical gays to be hilarious-- you are exhibiting self-loathing behavior and proclaiming your desire to be gang-raped, silly!

I mean really, once he explained it to me, it was just so obvious. And while getting gang raped was real uncomfortable, I know that Mr. TT wouldn't have told me that it was what I really wanted if it wasn't for my own good. He's so kind and sweet and thoughtful like that.

Now I know some of you were afraid that he was going to come out from behind the make-up counter and start shooting up Barney's because some woman was wearing Dusty Peach and he'd told her it wasn't her color, god damn it, but now that he has my welfare-- and yours-- front and center in his mind, I just know he's going to control his grumpy behavior.

Why I bet they'll even have him stop pushing the hand cream once they realize just what a warm and loving person he really is.

 

Hugs and kisses, TT, you fuzzy little cutie-pie, you!!!

Keep up the good work!!!

[Guest exFratBoy]

Golly, thanks for thinking of me again, Mr. TT. I just get all tingly when you say smart stuff like this and use big words like "paragon." It just shows me that not only are you kind and caring but that you're real smart too.

And that someone like you could care so much about someone like me, well, it just makes me feel so special.

I'm kind of embarassed to ask, but maybe you could take me to one of your NAMBLA meetings with you. I'm sure that you and the other kind gentlemen there would be able to give me some good advice on how to run my life and how to be more like you, my sweet cuddly erudite little idol. And then after, if it wouldn't be too much trouble, maybe you could all gang rape me and pound me until I bleed, since that is, after all, what I really want. Woof! Woof!

 

Later, you big ole fluffball!!!

 

PS: I don't think that anyone here thinks that you are a liar, Mr. TT, even though you are always saying how you just tell the truth. Everyone can see how you just have all our well-being at heart (especially mine and FFFs!) and that like being pounded until your ass is raw, sometimes the truth hurts!

 

Toodles!!!

[Donnie]

>had his panties all in a twist,

 

Welcome back, Fin Fang Foom.

[Traveller]

Donnie,

 

Let me get this straight now. I'm trying to keep my flow chart up to date. exFratBoy is FFF, who is also Jason Coxx. T2 and reg are the same person, and are arguing with themselves on this post. In addition, they are also delhi, creosote, cassius, clemencee and Pickwick. Every now and then, according to exFratBoy, they are also Lucky. The piece that was missing for me was the other identity that you had. Was it T2?

 

I know that "The Women" got a great review in the Times this morning, but when did this board morph into a version of it on some really bad acid. What happened to SEX and FUN and RAUNCH and general CRAZINESS. Ladies, let's lighten up and knock bones.

 

Later.

[Guest WetDream]

RE: I'll Echo That...

 

"I know that "The Women" got a great review in the Times this morning, but when did this board morph into a version of it on some really bad acid. What happened to SEX and FUN and RAUNCH and general CRAZINESS. Ladies, let's lighten up and knock bones."

 

BUT to return to the original ideal of this thread, which has gotten seriously hijacked, some of my guilty pleasures are:

 

1) holding hands with my boyfriend on the beach at sunset

2) scrubbing pots at local soup kitchen

3) bringing special treats to the puppies at the ASPCA

4) wrapping presents for orphans on Christmas Eve

 

Well...I could go on and on.

[Traveller]

RE: I'll Echo That...

 

>1) holding hands with my boyfriend on the beach at sunset

>2) scrubbing pots at local soup kitchen

>3) bringing special treats to the puppies at the ASPCA

>4) wrapping presents for orphans on Christmas Eve

>

>Well...I could go on and on.

 

WD

 

Awful damn good.

 

Later.

 

PS. How much are we giving to the widow's fund this holiday season?