Vittorio/LA

[MscleLovr]

This post is to warn others about Vittorio in Los Angeles. He's not reliable. He cancelled a trip with me at very short notice because he received another offer (same money for less time). I know he has lots of "fans" so I have kept all the emails and text messages so I can prove what I'm describing.

 

Vittorio is darkly goodlooking, short and has a very fit, defined body. He bills himself on Rentboy as "top/vers" but he has always bottomed for me. He is a true fratboy at USC but at 25 he is also immatture. He works only when he does not have sufficient money to meet his bills. I had considered him, perhaps foolishly, a sort of friend after hiring him multiple times and going on trips with him. We've corresponded over time and kept in touch regularly by phone.

 

I was due to see him this coming weekend; we'd agreed a rate of $2500 for 2.5days. He was away from home for work but kept encouraging me to call him. Strangely, whenever I phoned as arranged, it went straight to voicemail. Only 48hours before we were due to meet, I received a text message telling me that he had another offer (of $2500 for 1.5days) for the same weekend and that if I was "interested" he would still meet me but one day later. When I reminded him politely that we had agreed on the trip and that he should respect others and honour a prior arrangement, I received a text message from him that said "LOL, grow up"

 

My mistake was to trust him and expect him to keep his word. I'm glad though that late last year when he was telling me about his many debts, I refused to give him $15000 as he asked (tho he later told me another client loaned him the $ at zero interest). Clearly for him, clients are an ATM and it's all about the $

 

My intention in writing here is not to blacken his name, but rather to warn others that they should be careful in making arrangements with him and note that he may not keep his promises.

[JT Brooklyn]

Mscl..Unfortunately "Biz is Biz"..This is a Scenario that takes place everyday...Minus the Sex Part of course.

 

I also thought I was Pretty Good Friends with a "Working Guy" But he and his Attitude "Flipped" on me real Fast! Unfortunately I don't mean in Bed either! Sorry to hear though.

[Bart]

Not sure how your weekend plans are arranged but you still have an opportunity to find some quality guys that would be willing to have a weekend romp for that rate maybe less. If it involved airline tickets well then this does suck big time.

 

If in the end it is just a hotel then maybe this was a good learning experience. Sometimes we need things like this to happen to bring this Client-Escort back to a business first pleasure second thought process. It is so easy to let our lower head do all the thinking. There are great guys out there who I do consider friends but I do keep the prespective that it is a business.

 

Sorry you had to go through this but if no airline ticket involved well to be honest you got off better than a lot of other people. I have guys cancel flights in or just not show up after flights and airline tickets bought, so out $500-$700 but I do look at it as no fee paid.

 

To be honest I am a little more concerned that he is asking clients for significant loans. I have helped escorts out on some personal issues but it did not involve cash. I would love to say it was due to my siginificant sexual skills but that is something that will never happen. But more my professional life with just a little involvement.

[seaboy4hire]

Bart I'm sorry that this happened to you or anyone else. These things should never happen but unfortunately some people do look at the client as an ATM with legs. I wonder if you could submit a review? It's been said quite a few times that only a very small portion that go to the reviews come to this side. Your experience might be better served if you could do up a proper review. In essence this is a NO SHOW and should be reviewed as such. Again I'm sorry that this happened but remember there are those of us out there that keep appointments that we agree too.

 

Hugs,

Greg

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[ariadne1880]

I had a fairly negative experience with this guy, too, but I'm grateful to say it never got as far as this poor guy's encounter. I feel bad for you and what you had to go through.

 

I had planned a two day trip with him as well but in my case I had to cancel. I gave him ONE MONTH notice. First, he never even responded to my cancelation. Not a single word. I persisted and he got very pissy. Along the same lines of what you experienced.

 

I've had a number of these kinds of experiences with guys in their 20s and am beginning to think it is time to stay away from them. They tend to be very immature and very selfish. Someday they'll grow up but it's not going to happen on my time.

 

Mark

[soccerjock624]

Knowing both the client and the escort in this situation, i cannot believe the initial statements to be true, Vittorio is the most genuine and sweet guy ive every met...immature for 25 maybe, but still hes a great guy who isnt out to steal your money. It is understandable to have a bad appointment depending on the chemistry, so the last post makes sense..but the initial one, I just cannot believe to be true. Beyond being a truly nice guy, hes definitely HOT.

 

 

BRett MAthers

rentboy.com/soccerjock6248

[Guest pj4florida]

>Knowing both the client and the escort in this situation, i

>cannot believe the initial statements to be true, Vittorio is

>the most genuine and sweet guy ive every met...immature for 25

>maybe, but still hes a great guy who isnt out to steal your

>money. It is understandable to have a bad appointment

>depending on the chemistry, so the last post makes sense..but

>the initial one, I just cannot believe to be true. Beyond

>being a truly nice guy, hes definitely HOT.

>

>

>BRett MAthers

>rentboy.com/soccerjock6248

 

 

I have talked to him Brett and he did cancel but he say there is two sides to this situation and that this particular client has also cancelled on him and only way he knew was when he went to finalize his online plane ticket he found out it had been cancelled and then was told after the fact. So I am not sure what circumstances but in this case I was told an existing client wanted to extend his stay by 1 and 1/2 days and was willing to pay the lost fee for the weekend. He said he notified client in advance of this and that is how the offer stood.

 

I do not know and while I am in middle as you know how close a friend I am to Vittorio as you are well aware I am staying out of it. Client seems to be very cool and my friendship with Vittorio is very cool so I am chilling out this one and only posting this comment. I again as you are aware Mr Brett do not see Vittorio professionally as he is a family friend. I love him like a brother so my feeling are too close to judge either way. I think it was just a bad communication as we all know who know Vittorio his English understanding and customs are not at 100%

 

Also Brett I wish the best for you in DC wiht your internship and we still need to hook up again sometime soon maybe in NYC or nearer to DC. Also your newer pics show you are really getting hot!!!

 

PJ Tampa

[Epigonos]

A number of years ago I spent two wonderful nights in Tampa, Florida with an escort by the name of Aiden (I understand he is no longer escorting). I wrote an outstanding review and was extremely surprised to later read some very negative comments about him. I remember responding to those comments that I was sorry the poster had not had a similar experience to mine but could certainly understand his unhappiness.

The point to the above is that this current thread strikes me in much the same way. Why can’t we accept the fact that although we might have had a wonderful experience with a, certain, escort someone else might not have been equally fortunate. Is it totally out of the realm of possibility that a favorite escort might occasionally behave irresponsibly? – I think NOT.

Come on guy let’s give the poster the benefit of the doubt and count our blessing that our experiences were different than his. All of us are capable of poor behavior, both clients and escorts, on occasion and, in my opinion, it is best to accept that fact and move on.

[MscleLovr]

I'd like to add some comments on the earlier posts:

 

1. JT Brooklyn, Bart and Seaboy4hire are very kind. I have indeed found other goodlooking guys willing to play and for less $. I am not even out the airfare as, knowing Vittorio as I do, I only book fully-refundable airfares for him.

 

And Yes, perhaps I was naive to think that I could be friends with an escort. In my opinion, there are some in this industry who are professional in their approach as well as some goodlooking guys who simply want to make $ off their hot bodies

 

2. Unlike ariadne1880 I had generally positive experiences with Vittorio before this. I made the original post simply to urge others to be cautious in their dealings with Nio.

 

3. Soccerjock624's comment bemuses me. He and I have never met, nor even spoken on the phone. We exchanged a couple of polite emails once when he mentioned here his availability for a trip. I enquired about his rate for a week and when it was too much for me, politely declined. (I never haggle, I simply and politely move on)

 

I do agree with him that Nio has a hot body for I enjoyed his company on our previous dates.

 

4. PJ is fair in his comment, and I appreciate that is hard to achieve in a "you said/No you said" situation. I do, however, retain all the emails and text messages to and from Nio where he confirms his agreement to the trip planned for this weekend.

 

It's true that I cancelled a trip with Nio last year. He was being dictatorial, saying we could have sex only 1x per day (he bottoms for me) and I had to hire a boy for him to fuck, and I responded that this was inappropriate when I was giving him $1000 per day. He then sent a rather silly but nasty email, and I decided that it was pointless to go on a trip of a few days with someone who was being so argumentative.

 

Friendly relations between us had been restored, and so we had planned this weekend's trip together. Nio never told me he had an existing client wish to "extend" their date. He called and messaged me from New York the previous weekend and told me when he was back at home in LA. As I noted originally, he informed me of the new offer (of same money but less time) only 48hours before he was due to join me - and asked me to match it. That is what I find disrespectful and unacceptable behaviour.

[JT Brooklyn]

Hey Mscle..I'm quite sure you have moved on from this Working Guy Experience to Better Fun! This "Candy Store" will never run out of Choices! Ya just have to "Spit out the Bitter" and Go for the Sweet!

 

As far as the "Match It" Guys go..

The Admittedly Hunky RYAN who was Advertising his "One Shot Deal" on Rentboy for a 10K OVERNITER.. has since decided to "Quote" $500 an Hour! Where ever his Home Base is...that must be working alot better for him!

 

So I'm thinking IF "Match It" Didn't work for that HUNK..Most other "Fair to Middlin" Guys, there are MANY nowadays..won't be doing much better with ATTITUDE! ;-)

[Bart]

I am utterly amazed this is one of the more balanced threads in a long time. The respect and restrain posters are using here taking a difficult situation and everyone not turning nasty in any respect is great. Lets hope one of our more loudmouth posters of late stays out of here.

 

This is truely a time to expound on Espingos great statement, Client-escort meetings are unique. No matter how many good reviews, it does not insure a perfect meeting. Even repeat meetings do not always go as well as previous meetings. I think for the most part escorts try hard to make our meetings unique experiences for us, most of the time it works but every now and then there is a clunker. I think toughest thing for clients is when this occurs, not to take it personally. I had a lousy meeting with a beautiful Blond young man from Brazil who has some of the best reviews on this site. It bugged the crap out of me, but I now know that sometimes it just does not click and move on.

 

That said I do believe the best escorts have a methodology in place to keep returning clients feel special. I am not naive enough to think it is just me, but to know that good organization skills and just things like birthday lists and such keep those fantasy thoughts going.

 

In this case maybe Vittrio could have had a better way to contact the client. Personally I think it would have been better for Vittrio to just to lie and say he was ill and had to cancel. His approach is sort of cut of his nose to spite himself. But hey it is his business and that is the way he wants to handle it.

[Bart]

I am utterly amazed this is one of the more balanced threads in a long time. The respect and restrain posters are using here taking a difficult situation and everyone not turning nasty in any respect is great. Lets hope one of our more loudmouth posters of late stays out of here.

 

This is truely a time to expound on Espingos great statement, Client-escort meetings are unique. No matter how many good reviews, it does not insure a perfect meeting. Even repeat meetings do not always go as well as previous meetings. I think for the most part escorts try hard to make our meetings unique experiences for us, most of the time it works but every now and then there is a clunker. I think toughest thing for clients is when this occurs, not to take it personally. I had a lousy meeting with a beautiful Blond young man from Brazil who has some of the best reviews on this site. It bugged the crap out of me, but I now know that sometimes it just does not click and move on.

 

That said I do believe the best escorts have a methodology in place to keep returning clients feel special. I am not naive enough to think it is just me, but to know that good organization skills and just things like birthday lists and such keep those fantasy thoughts going.

 

In this case maybe Vittrio could have had a better way to contact the client. Personally I think it would have been better for Vittrio to just to lie and say he was ill and had to cancel. His approach is sort of cut of his nose to spite himself. But hey it is his business and that is the way he wants to handle it.