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Hello All,

I have been contacted numerous times, as the administrator of Valley Boys, about some of the comments being made on here about our service Valley Boy Escorts. I read most of them and was fascinated in some of what was said about the boys, as well as the group as a whole. I'm am not coming on here to refute anything that was said, whether positive or negative. I am here however to answer any and all mature questions you guys may have about us, about any of the boys or about the site its' self. I will not however answer any off the wall questions, nor will I enter into a debate about any subject, or any other escort service. So please, feel free to ask, I hope I can answer all of your questions and concerns.

Warmest Regards,

DJ Savoy

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>So please, feel free to ask, I hope I can answer all of your questions and concerns.

Warmest Regards<

 

Why do you advertise Chris as a versatile top, that is willing to travel? In his amateur resonse to me, he denied his willingness on both counts. Not very professional.

 

Also, why did you copy me on a private email correspondence between site administrators?

 

"What on earth gave you the idea that I want to hear the story of your life?Save it for someone who cares -- if you can find such a person." All rights to Woodlawn

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>Why do you advertise Chris as a versatile top, that is willing to >travel? In his amateur resonse to me, he denied his willingness on >both counts. Not very professional.

 

I believe the Chris felt uncomfortable with you and was turning you down in a polite manner, something he is allowed to do on his own. None fo the guys are ever forced to go out on appointments when they do not feel comfortable. It was also Chris's choice to change from a ver top to top only. His prerogative solely.

 

>Also, why did you copy me on a private email correspondence between >site administrators?

 

I never copied you any email, Chris may have inadvertently done so. If I remember correctly, he had forwarded your email to me for advise on how to respond back to you. I simply told him to be honest with his response and never lie to your clients. He MAY have mistakenly forwarded that back to you. If he did, so what? Please try to remember, you want to play with young boys, then your going to get responses back from young boys, not college grads like myself and even you possibly. Chris is a very young kid, and over bearing men can frighten him at times, hell they frighten me also.

 

>"What on earth gave you the idea that I want to hear the story of >your life?Save it for someone who cares -- if you can find such a >person." All rights to Woodlawn

 

I will not respond to rude or ignorant questions or statements such as that. However, if this is how you acted toward Chris, I do not blame him for blowing you off, I would have done the same. Thank you though for showing concern about Chris, I'm sure he's glad there are people out there like you to watch over him, and critique his every move.

 

Sir, have a wonderful and safe day.

DJ

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>>Why do you advertise Chris as a versatile top, that is

>willing to >travel? In his amateur resonse to me, he denied

>his willingness on >both counts. Not very professional.

 

>I believe the Chris felt uncomfortable with you and was

>turning you down in a polite manner,

 

Lying about what one is willing to do doesn't seem very polite to me.

 

> It was also

>Chris's choice to change from a ver top to top only. His

>prerogative solely.

 

So when you advertise what one of your people is willing to do, it doesn't really mean anything? If that's true, why bother to say anything in your ads about what they will do? The only thing you are accomplishing is to confuse people.

 

> If

>he did, so what? Please try to remember, you want to play with

>young boys, then your going to get responses back from young

>boys, not college grads like myself

 

Good point. Clients should always keep in mind that many escorts are simply too dumb to behave in a professional manner. Thanks for reminding us.

 

 

>>"What on earth gave you the idea that I want to hear the

>story of >your life?Save it for someone who cares -- if you

>can find such a >person." All rights to Woodlawn

 

>I will not respond to rude or ignorant questions or statements

>such as that.

 

Speaking of being "dumb," the lines you are responding to are joel's signature -- a quote taken from one of my posts, as it happens -- not a remark addressed to you personally. Did you really graduate from college? If so, you clearly didn't major in English.

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Good Evening Woodlawn,

You all do not seem to understand that after Chris posted his add with us, he choose to change his "position" as it were, so it was changed on his add after it went live. Again, that is solely up to him if he wants to "bottom" for a person or not. Apparently he is willing to do certain things in his personal life, and decided not to is this part of his life. Who's acting like the child here? The kid changed his mind, so we changed his add.

Inferring that Chris is DUMB, well that is simply only confusing people again as to who the child here really is.

As far as "joel's signature" goes, I am new to this forum, and not familiar with that. No matter what it is, it was there and inappropriate, and childish.

Listen, you and Joel "seem" to go though life as very bitter men who have nothing better to do than say things about these boys, and you have no idea who they are. If you do not care to use the guys on Valley Boys, then don't. But leave them be. I know all of them personally, and they are all fine young men, trying to do what ever other escort is trying to do.

Maybe you should try spending time with Chris or one of the other boys, and then get on here and talk about your night. A food critic does not write about a restaurant before going there and sampling what the place has to offer... A movie critic does not write about a movie he never saw..... Yet!!! You use this forum as your soapbox, and you never tasted the food and you never aven saw the movie. How credible can you possible be?

 

Have a good evening.......

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>Good Evening Woodlawn,

> You all do not seem to understand that after Chris posted his

>add with us, he choose to change his "position" as it were

 

I do understand that. And if that happens frequently with your people, it can only lead to confusion and to the impression that you engage in false advertising.

 

>Who's

>acting like the child here?

 

No one is. There's nothing childish about false advertising, or about the bait and switch scams that so many escort agencies engage in. Children don't usually do things like that.

 

> Inferring that Chris is DUMB, well that is simply only

>confusing people again as to who the child here really is.

 

You're the one who said that his youth or something else about him means he can't understand that clients want their email addresses kept confidential. That, by the way, is something that clients have complained about over and over again here during the years I have been reading this board, so don't pretend that joel is the only person who cares about it.

 

> As far as "joel's signature" goes, I am new to this forum,

>and not familiar with that. No matter what it is, it was there

>and inappropriate, and childish.

 

I don't recall anyone electing you to decide what is and is not appropriate on this board. Do try to keep that in mind.

 

> Listen, you and Joel "seem" to go though life as very bitter

>men who have nothing better to do than say things about these

>boys, and you have no idea who they are.

 

Actually, it's even worse than you think. Not only do I not know the "boys" you "represent," I had never heard of your agency at all until I saw this thread. You are not exactly a household name, you know.

 

I have no idea whether any of your people is worth hiring even for five minutes or not. But my experience as a client certainly qualifies me to discuss how clients view the practices of escorts and of "agents" like you in general. A good businessman wants all the information he can possibly get about how customers for his services view his company, his competitors, and his industry, what they like and what they don't like. Only a fool would ignore such information when it comes his way.

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>Hello All,

> I have been contacted numerous times, as the administrator

>of Valley Boys, about some of the comments being made on here

>about our service Valley Boy Escorts. I read most of them and

>was fascinated in some of what was said about the boys, as

>well as the group as a whole. I'm am not coming on here to

>refute anything that was said, whether positive or negative. I

>am here however to answer any and all mature questions you

>guys may have about us, about any of the boys or about the

>site its' self. I will not however answer any off the wall

>questions, nor will I enter into a debate about any subject,

>or any other escort service. So please, feel free to ask, I

>hope I can answer all of your questions and concerns.

>Warmest Regards,

>DJ Savoy

 

 

 

so this means your'e their..........pimp??

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Sir,

The very first appointment Chris had with us, the man got ruff with him, and I do not need to go into exactly how, but needless to say, after a very bad experience, A VERY BAD experience, he decided he would never do that with a client again. Therefore, he changed his add. Why you can't understand that, well it's beyond me. There was no false advertising and no bait & switch, only a young boy who was "HURT" by someone that should never have done what he did, so he chaged his add, period!

 

>You're the one who said that his youth or something else about him >means he can't understand that clients want their email addresses >kept confidential. That, by the way, is something that clients have >complained about over and over again here during the years I have >been reading this board, so don't pretend that joel is the only >person who cares about it.

 

It is the policy here that your email addresses are NEVER given out to anyone, and if your concerned about that, then get a Yahoo account that can not be traced back to you like most people do. If my personal email was given out, I too would not be a happy camper. No ones was ever given out to anyone but me, it was simply sent to me for advice.

 

>Actually, it's even worse than you think. Not only do I not know >the "boys" you "represent," I had never heard of your agency at all >until I saw this thread. You are not exactly a household name, you >know.

 

Thank you, you just proved my point about judging something you know nothing about.

 

>I have no idea whether any of your people is worth hiring even for >five minutes or not. But my experience as a client certainly >qualifies me to discuss how clients view the practices of escorts >and of "agents" like you in general. A good businessman wants all >the information he can possibly get about how customers for his >services view his company, his competitors, and his industry, what >they like and what they don't like. Only a fool would ignore such >information when

 

I agree with you 100%, but get facts to guide you, not hear say. I have never had one complaint yet from a client, not one. I actually get emails telling me how great a time they had. I get positive feed back from guys that contact us directly and ask advise on which escort would fit their needs, and virtually ever time, I get thanked for being such a user friendly service. If I do get a problem escort, they are removed from the site immediately, thankfully I only had to do that once. Conversely, if I get complaints about clients, they are as well asked to go elsewhere. I have had to that a few times, one of which was Chris's first client with us.

 

If and when you ever use our service or one of our guys, and you have constructive advice, I will be more than happy to listen. we are not perfect, yet we all strive to make your time with us perfect. Pleasing everyone in impossible, but we try out best to do so.

 

Please, if you have any real down to earth questions about Valley Boys, or one of the escorts, ask, I would be more then happy to help you out.

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>Sir,

>The very first appointment Chris had with us, the man got ruff

>with him, and I do not need to go into exactly how, but

>needless to say, after a very bad experience, A VERY BAD

>experience, he decided he would never do that with a client

>again. Therefore, he changed his add. Why you can't understand

>that, well it's beyond me. There was no false advertising and

>no bait & switch, only a young boy who was "HURT" by someone

>that should never have done what he did, so he chaged his add,

>period!

 

For someone who claims to be a college graduate, your command of the English language is indeed sorely lacking. Your grammar is atrocious and your inability to spell even the simplest of words correctly (it's "ad", which is short for ADvertisement, not "add" which is a math function.) is astonishing. If your English is any indication, I am sure you never got to that particular function in math.)

 

Secondly, based on your attitude alone, I can't imagine why anyone would do business with you. The only thing you have done is make yourself look bad. Changing your name from CastAway to Valley Boys Admin and expecting us to believe you are a different person is laughable when you have the same poor attitude. Instead of making excuses for your poor brain addled w-h-0-r-e-s, how about FIXING the problems and focusing on customer service rather than excuses?

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Typical Woodlawn-

Here a guy comes to our board offering to answer very pressing questions about his agency an good old Woody tares him to shreds.

 

Woodlawn - I typically steer clear of your posts as I abhor them, this time I slipped.

 

Valley Boys guy - I appreciate you coming to this board offering to openly answer any of our questions. Please ignore the scumbags who are ignorant to you showing that they are not only children but anti-social children at that. We are not all like that.

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>Typical Woodlawn-

>Here a guy comes to our board offering to answer very pressing

>questions about his agency an good old Woody tares him to

>shreds.

>

>Woodlawn - I typically steer clear of your posts as I abhor

>them, this time I slipped.

>

>Valley Boys guy - I appreciate you coming to this board

>offering to openly answer any of our questions. Please ignore

>the scumbags who are ignorant to you showing that they are not

>only children but anti-social children at that. We are not all

>like that.

 

 

You're really not the sharpest knife in the box, are you?

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Chris, or Admin guy, I can't waste any more time with you. You write like an illiterate, and bore me to tears.

 

My email to the agency summarizes as, "Interested in checking Chris' availability and rates for an overnight in NYC this coming weekend. I'm looking for dinner, drinks, and a late evening return to my hotel. I'm 33, professional, and a top. Please respond with your rates. Thanks." This made ANYONE uncomfortable??

 

Chris' response was something like, "I NEVER bottom, and do (sic) to the hassel (sic) of travelling (sic) to New York, I would need an overnight and a Greyhound ticket."

 

The next correspondence that I received was a CC from the site administrator saying, "Someone needs to talk with Chris about how he responds to clients, and about his ad. The form he filed out stated that he was a versatile top."

 

With your permission, I would be happy to post the text of both emails on this board. As far as my personal email address?? Come on! Do you really think that I would forward anything traceable to anything resembling your type of site? I'm not as dumb and novice as you clearly are.

 

 

"What on earth gave you the idea that I want to hear the story of your life?Save it for someone who cares -- if you can find such a person." All rights to Woodlawn

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>the man got ruff with him, and I do not need to go into exactly how<

 

Do tell! Did he bark at him? Which internet college did you graduate from?

 

"What on earth gave you the idea that I want to hear the story of your life?Save it for someone who cares -- if you can find such a person." All rights to Woodlawn

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DJ..Nobody ever said it would be Easy! LOL Your Response as to Young Boys, Young Minds..There are those who just like to "Play" with those "Young Minds & Bodies" Either for "Free or for a Price"!.. Young Guys are Lucky when, they have Someone to ask Questions and get Advice from..A Guy apparently like you. Much Success to you in the Future!

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>The very first appointment Chris had with us, the man got ruff

>with him, and I do not need to go into exactly how, but

>needless to say, after a very bad experience, A VERY BAD

>experience, he decided he would never do that with a client

>again. Therefore, he changed his add. Why you can't understand

>that, well it's beyond me.

 

The reason I can't understand it is very simple: you didn't give us that information. I have always had a very difficult time understanding something that I have never been told. I think many people have the same problem.

 

 

>It is the policy here that your email addresses are NEVER

>given out to anyone, and if your concerned about that, then

>get a Yahoo account that can not be traced back to you like

>most people do.

 

I'm sorry to be the one to break the news to you, but there is no great difficulty in finding out the name associated with almost any email address if one is determined to do so. That is why clients often do not like the idea that an escort whom they contact feels free to divulge their email address to someone else.

 

 

>Thank you, you just proved my point about judging something

>you know nothing about.

 

On the contrary, having dealt with a number of escort agencies I can say that false advertising and bait and switch scams are things with which I am all too familiar. I wish I could say otherwise.

 

 

>I agree with you 100%, but get facts to guide you, not hear

>say.

 

You don't seem to understand the meaning of the term "hearsay." Suffice it to say that testimony by joel about things he witnessed personally is not "hearsay."

 

>I have never had one complaint yet from a client, not

>one.

 

So what are the comments you referred to about your agency on this site that spurred you to start this thread?

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>Typical Woodlawn-

>Here a guy comes to our board offering to answer very pressing

>questions about his agency an good old Woody tares him to

>shreds.

 

Pressing questions? What pressing questions? I have been reading this board for years and this is the first time I can recall this agency being mentioned by anyone.

 

>

>Woodlawn - I typically steer clear of your posts as I abhor

>them, this time I slipped.

 

I am very disappointed that you have been unable to keep your resolution to avoid reading my posts. I urge you in the strongest terms to try harder in the future.

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>Valley Boys guy - I appreciate you coming to this board

>offering to openly answer any of our questions. Please ignore

>the scumbags who are ignorant to you showing that they are not

>only children but anti-social children at that. We are not all

>like that.

 

Skrubbie, up off your knees and slowly move your lips of his ass. What would your precious Princess say if he knew you were worshipping somewhere other than the altar of BN?

 

If this guy were truly the admin, and a different person from CastAway, he would have responded to the original thread. He realizes now, much as your precious Princess and Scott Evil do, that when caught in a lie, the best thing to do is try to divert attention from it. That's what he's doing here.

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