Anyone have fun experiences with airport security and accessories ?

[Funseeker 22]

Heard a funny true story from an escort yesterday who had an awkward moment last weekend. He was passing thru a major airport and forgot that he was wearing a small metal cockring until all hell broke loose. After being wanded all over it was apparent that the "problem" area needed to be checked in a private room. Now this required three male security guys to watch our "potential terrorist" drop trou and remove the offending object which was then sent ceremoniously thru a separate metal detector.

Now do we really need to have 3 dummies in the room to check this guy`s genital area?.

Anybody else have airport horror stories ? :-)

This post also could apply to both escorts and clients.

[Laurent]

Almost a year ago a flight I was scheduled for was extremely late; the airline switched me to a different airline, requiring me to go through a second security check (the two use different concourses here). That change, of course, caused concern, but I was now severely challenged to make the flight. Two security guards were comparing notes on last night's "shucking and jiving" instead of checking me, and I asked the one who had sent me over to them if he could have them get the checking completed or do it himself, since I was in danger of missing the flight. Annoyed, they had me drop my trousers, although I had set off no alarms. When I dropped my trousers, they then said that I would have to drop my shorts as well. I refused to do that in public; they said that I was the one in a hurry and casually sauntered to a private room. Fortunately, I had been a runner in high school and college and did make the flight. My letter of complaint resulted in a standard form letter thanking me for expressing my opinion. Only a fool would be opposed to airport security, but some security personnel need to be replaced.

[+ Lucky]

Last weeek my 87 year old mother was taken out of her wheelchair and strip searched...no privacy either as she stood there trying to keep herself covered in front of all the other passengters.

[PacNW]

Laurent,

 

"Shucking and jiving" in a rant like that is pretty loaded language. Although not universally, I think most careful readers are going to come away with the implication that those employees you're complaining about are black. If that's the case, and you're using the term to reduce them to a "shufflin' darky" stereotype, it's pretty blatant and offensive. Even if it's not the case and they were white or other ethnicity, be aware that, maybe unconsciously, you're still using some racially charged language to put them down in a way that really has no relation to the subject of your rant. You'll get no argument from me about your conclusion on airport security and security workers in general, but mixing it up with some insidious racial stereotyping will get you nowhere.

 

(I'm reading a lot into this without knowing all the details of the encounter. If there is more to it, I'd be glad to read about it and reconsider my statements above.)

[taylorky]

i read it the same way.

[HotdadENYC]

I suppose we'll have to wait for Laurent to clarify what he meant by using the phrase "shucking and jiving."

 

When I read it, I didn't think that he meant to portray the security guards as black. While that phrase has an origin in Negro dialect, it has also been widely used in the oyster industry, corn harvesting industry and has been used to describe someone (anyone) who is skirting around the truth.

 

The use of words and phrases that we have borrowed from other cultures does not immediately imply or mean that the word or phrase is directed against a member of the originating group. I'm thinking right now, not exclusively, of some of the colorful words and phrases we have borrowed from Jewish culture.

 

So I'll look forward to a further explanation.

 

If, however, Laurent did mean to portray the security guards as black, and I'm not so sure that their race is even relevant, then I believe it was a poor choice of words.

 

hd NYC

[Bilbo]

It's not a horror story, but could someone explain why all of the airports I've been going through do not provide some chairs just on the other side of security? I can't be the only one who takes his shoes off and sends them through the screening, ony to have to balance on one foot to put them back on.

[joel304]

Tell me you're kidding??? If not, contact an attorney. That is outrageous. You are kidding???

[joel304]

I didn't read it that way at all.

[Guest zipperzone]

>Heard a funny true story from an escort yesterday who had an

>awkward moment last weekend. He was passing thru a major

>airport and forgot that he was wearing a small metal cockring

>until all hell broke loose. After being wanded all over it was

>apparent that the "problem" area needed to be checked in a

>private room. Now this required three male security guys to

>watch our "potential terrorist" drop trou and remove the

>offending object which was then sent ceremoniously thru a

>separate metal detector.

 

Sounds like a lota fun to me. I suggest we all travel with metal cock rings from now on. I can hardly wait for my next flight. Going to Toronto next week - will let you know what happens.

[Laurent]

I enclosed "shucking and jiving" in quotation marks because they were the terms coming from the mouths of both security persons repeatedly as I waited to be searched. It was the first time I had heard those terms for at least ten years and their use surprised me. You may say what you wish, but as one who spent time in jail in three different states for my freedom-riding activities and nearly went to jail again in November for insisting on the rights of an elderly black couple to vote in the precinct in which they had voted for the past twenty years, I'm completely secure about my bias and lack of it.

[HotdadENYC]

>I enclosed "shucking and jiving" in quotation marks because

>they were the terms coming from the mouths of both security

>persons repeatedly as I waited to be searched. It was the

>first time I had heard those terms for at least ten years and

>their use surprised me. You may say what you wish, but as one

>who spent time in jail in three different states for my

>freedom-riding activities and nearly went to jail again in

>November for insisting on the rights of an elderly black

>couple to vote in the precinct in which they had voted for the

>past twenty years, I'm completely secure about my bias and

>lack of it.

 

 

Hey, way good for you Laurent. Thanks for the elaboration. It actually brought something else up to mind. If white people use supposedly derogatory terms, like "shucking and jiving", all of a sudden we are guilty of being racist and politically incorrect.

 

If, however, a man of color (notice the use of PC language) uses the same phrase, we don't think anything about it.

 

As I mentioned before, I didn't think for one minute that you had racist overtones in mind, you were just relaying a very valuable story.

 

But now, I am truly questioning the intelligence and wisdom of those who decided to post "investigative" and "interpretative" threads about you and your political correctness.

 

hd NYC

 

 

 

hd NYC

[seaboy4hire]

A few years ago the bf and I were coming back from IML in Chicago and didn't really think of it at the time till we were going through security but we packed out floggers in our carry ons since they were on the pricy side. Leaving Seattle we didn't have any problems but leaving Chicago security wanted to check the bag. The security officer a BIG black woman took the one flogger out and kind of played with it and verbaly noted that it was nicer then hers!!!!! OMG I almost died right then and there when she said that. It truely was a kodak moment.

 

Hugs,

Greg

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[PacNW]

>I enclosed "shucking and jiving" in quotation marks because

>they were the terms coming from the mouths of both security

>persons repeatedly as I waited to be searched. It was the

>first time I had heard those terms for at least ten years and

>their use surprised me. You may say what you wish, but as one

>who spent time in jail in three different states for my

>freedom-riding activities and nearly went to jail again in

>November for insisting on the rights of an elderly black

>couple to vote in the precinct in which they had voted for the

>past twenty years, I'm completely secure about my bias and

>lack of it.

 

I have a great interest in words and language. Among many aspects, one that intrigues me particularly is how words can be used and misused, or perhaps how they can be used both positively and negatively. So in exploring that, I’ve come across the substantial literature examining the ways in which language is used as a tool in asserting the status quo of a racist, sexist, and heterosexist (awkward, I know, but it fits better in this discussion than something like “homophobic”) social structure. I’m talking for the moment above and beyond a given individual’s freedom from or adherence to those isms, heated defenses of which often end up sidetracking or obscuring attempts at discussions on a broader level.

 

I actually listen to “conservative” talk radio a fair amount. Not because I agree with the commentators certainly, but because I find the methods they employ to manipulate their audiences fascinating. Consider Rush Limbaugh. On a superficial level, he can *sound* somewhat reasonable. His reportage is simplistic and pretty much information-neutral. What he excels at, however, is larding his commentary with the ad lib, the innuendo, the insinuation, the “there they go again” chuckle, the sarcastic aside. All of which is done to derogate and dismiss individuals and groups that threaten his position and that of those he represents, the wealthy, white, straight male, at the top of the 21st American power structure. It has a frightening subliminal allure, and it’s easy to see why he has a following. (I was amused a couple years back at his genuine perplexity at getting booted off Monday Night Football for his off-the-cuff comment on the black QB and the media’s handling of him. It’s the exact kind of ad lib he spouts sixty times and hour on his own show without ever being challenged on it and it was nice to see him get some comeuppance.)

 

Your original post in this thread, without any further context, struck me as having a similar subliminal message. Obviously, those employees pissed you off with the crap way they treated you. It’s not unheard of for a racist (now I’m talking at an individual level) to use that kind of anger as a justification to lash out and in the process drag in personal attributes that really have nothing to do with the disagreement at hand. And as I said, “shucking and jiving” has, for me, a solely ethnic connotation. Shucking oysters, yes; shucking corn, yes; but used in this specific combination it exclusively brings up images of a 1970’s era J.J. “Dyn-o-mite” Walker black youth goofing around. Additionally, your later description of “they ... casually sauntered to a private room” reinforced a general sense of shiftlessness that would probably have gone unremarked were it not for the first comment that originally set off the warning bell.

 

Without anything more to go on, and following the above thought process, I spoke out. I do that. I’ve been know to do it in face-to-face personal encounters as well as anonymously on message boards. And I will continue to do so. But with the further information you provided, I’m comfortable in acknowledging that my interpretation here was wrong.

 

Laurent, you have fought in some valuable battles. I hope you understand that I choose to fight different battles, but in the same war.

[PacNW]

I'm already being a wet dishrag once in this thread. Why not go for another one.

 

This just screams "urban legend." All the elements are there: "I heard this from ...", topicality with airport security bashing, cringingly embarrassing situation.

 

All I know for sure is that I've got a porn tape from a few years back ("Cockpit") with this exact situation on it.

[MichiganMan]

I for one have traveled extensivly over the past few years, and, traveling what I call "electronics heavy" (laptop, disk drives, seperate dvd unit etc.) I am ALWAYS throughly searched from top to bottom, and ALWAYS in a manner very much acceptable. Don't get me wrong, I find it a pain, but,in my opinion, necessary.

[beagle]

Has anyone else had problems with piercings? I have 2 (relatively small ones), in the naval and a guiche, and have had no issues at security.......one for 8 years, the other for about 3 months.

[joel304]

Pack the Birkenstocks. The fanatical left is throwing another party.

[joel304]

>I'm already being a wet dishrag once in this thread. Why not

>go for another one.

>

>This just screams "urban legend." All the elements are there:

>"I heard this from ...", topicality with airport security

>bashing, cringingly embarrassing situation.

>

>All I know for sure is that I've got a porn tape from a few

>years back ("Cockpit") with this exact situation on it.

 

 

 

I, for one, am constantly searched with prodding devices. ALWAYS by questionable darkly tanned people "shuckin n jivin." Happens mosly in Detroit :+

[PacNW]

Now that you've got them all nicely packaged, wrapped, tied up with a pretty bow, labelled and dismissed, what did you actually think about any of the comments I made? Or did you skip the thinking step?

 

BTW, I hate Birkenstocks. The require the wearing of socks with open-toed sandals, which is truly a crime against nature.

[joel304]

I hear ya Pac. But I am so tired of hearing the constant banter of political correctness from liberal white boys (I live in SF) about everything .... everyday. Especially when a community that promotes the most stereotypical and filthy music ever created, under the guise of "only we can say that," goes unchecked by the same masses. Nigga please ;-)

 

 

P.S. You don't wear socks with Birkenstocks unless you teach Political Science at Berkeley

[Guest zipperzone]

>I hear ya Pac. But I am so tired of hearing the constant

>banter of political correctness from liberal white boys (I

>live in SF) about everything .... everyday. Especially when a

>community that promotes the most stereotypical and filthy

>music ever created, under the guise of "only we can say that,"

>goes unchecked by the same masses. Nigga please ;-)

 

Thank God somebody finally had the balls to say it.

[joel304]

Look what happened to Bill Cosby when he addressed this. A modern day hanging.

[joel304]

I did a Google search on "shuckin and jivin" and found many references, mostly non race based, but there was one worth a chuckle. Please read this as I intended it.

 

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/movie11.htm

[seaboy4hire]

i have my lower navel pierced now for about 8 years I think and I haven't had any problems with it setting off the metal detectors.

 

Hugs,

Greg

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