Escort preference for clients

[bbyguy]

I was recently in San Diego on holidays and contacted one of the escorts there. He's had very good reviews on this site.

 

I managed to connect with him on the day that I was planning to see him. After making some preliminary arrangements, he asked me for my "profile". When he found out that I was not Caucasian, he said that he only saw "other white guys". He suggested I call one the other escorts.

 

If the escort wants to see only a specific type of client, should he not say that on his website?

 

If he had stated on his website or in any one of his many ads that he only sees clients who were Caucasian, that would have saved me a whole lot of time and effort.

[ManHoleNC]

I think that he may be reluctant to put any dislikes or aversions in fear of driving away other business. I for one stay clear of people with issues like that. I don't mind them listing their boundries, in terms of top/bottom, kissing or not kissing, etc. However when they have a list of types then I just figure it is not worth risking that I will be an undisclosed sub-type and will regret spending my money.

[rakshasa]

I have to concur, I have started leading all my initial contacts with escorts with "I am Black. Will that be a problem for you?" I'd much rather see on the website that they only accept a certain racial or ethnic client so I wouldn't waste the time contacting them.

 

It embarasses me to have to ask, but I've found that it saves me a hell of an amount of time and effort and more embarrasment to as direct as possible and not be told in a curt, usually snotty, manner that "they don't do black men."

 

I definitely resent being thrown into any group, especially considering pop-culture representations of black men, excluding Kevin Hill. I'm always tempted to ask, "What kind of black men do you find unattractive?" Because as far as my friends and family are concerned I might as well be white.

 

(Sorry for the rant. This really irks me.)

[bbyguy]

This is the first time that I have encountered this problem, so it's not been an isssue for me until now. Matter of fact, the local escorts that I see in my city, I see more than once - so it's not been an issue for them either.

 

When I talk to the escort when working out the final details, it's clear that I have an accent. And that usually gives away that English is not my birth langauge. However, I should add that English is now my prime langauage of communication.

 

A sort of an answer to the question:

".... I have started leading all my initial contacts with escorts with "I am Black. Will that be a problem for you?"

 

I don't think I will start my messages with that kind of line... yet.

[SexualAlchemist]

The escort should state "preferences" in his advertising.

 

This will save his time turning those who don't match his preferences away, it will save the time of those whom he turns away, and will help prevent the uncomfortable, inevitable moment when his "preferences" are laid bare. I daresay the only reason he doesn't state his preference in his advertising is because someone like me will have one look at them and pass on to the next ad.

 

Escorting is a legal fiction, at least until prostitution is legalized. So, as long as it's technically "legitimate" due to clever wording and unspoken winks'n'nods, his preferences are technically discrimination based on race.

[Epigonos]

Though ethnicity is the specific issue of this thread age can also be a similar issue. I avoid the problem by describing myself very clearly on my second email to the escort I'm considering hiring. That description includes my age (63), my height, my weight, my sexual likes and dislikes. I conclude by stating if the above information isn't a problem let me know and we can proceed. At that point the ball is in the escorts court and thus far there hasn't been a problem. If, however, in the future there should be a problem I would just as soon get it out in the open early. That way all I have wasted is a small amount of my time and NOT a considerably amount of my pride.

[+ Charlie]

I don't know the specifics of the law (I'm sure someone here will help me out on this), but I would assume that a supposedly legitimate escort business could not advertise that they will not service customers of certain races. That leaves it to the customer to anticipate the possibility of rejection based on an unstated prejudice, which sucks, but it is something we all deal with in an area as subjective as sexual attraction. Many people find it just as degrading to be desired solely for their ethnicity, such as black escorts who get objectified simply as "big black cocks." No one wants to be rejected or accepted because of a physical trait that he feels is irrelevant to his essential being, but that's human nature and we all have to find ways to live with it. That said, I still sympathize with your feelings of anger about your experience with this escort.

[Guest RandyRon]

I also tend to make it clear when I contact an escort that I'm older than dirt and have looks similar to the ass end of a ugly moose. Usually there isn't a problem. Recently, I had set up an appointment with an escort duo without the usual warnings. They emailed me for my "stats." When I emailed them back the session was cancelled.

 

I am quite aware that the escort should have complete leeway in who he accepts for a session. However, it does hurt even an calloused old fart like me when he gets a rejection. Some warning up front in the escort's ad would be a little ego deflating.

[BostonChris]

Well, I figured I'd put my 2 cents in on this matter.

Being an escort I would have to agree with some points, but then disagree with others... somewhat.

I don't think that it is unlawful to turn away a client based on race. But let me clarify that comment. For the experience of hiring an escort to be most satisfying, it is best that the escort/client relationship be somewhat of the same interest. For example, when someone asks me if I am into something that I am not, I tell that it probably wont be a good match. I try to explain that for their own benefit they should look elsewhere. This is sometimes the case when people ask for something a little out of my realm (like scat or bareback, etc.) It's just good professional responsibility to let the potential client know boundaries and preferences. I would classify this instance of turning away a client to that of race as well. Some escorts just prefer to not be hired by some races. This shouldn't be taken as a negative or with offense, on the contrary, it's better to know this up front.

Why not post this in ads? Good question... my only answer would be that most escorts (rather than just say I only work for my race) try to work with a potential client and see if it's good match. My only advice is to be aware that communication is the key. Be upfront and honest, that is the basis for a successful interaction. If you are concerned about race issues, just say it... the same goes for age, weight, etc. Most escorts will not push you aside if they are professional, curtious, and respectful. I mean, c'mon, that's what we're here for!

That just this escort's opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

Yours,

-Chris

[woodlawn]

>I don't know the specifics of the law (I'm sure someone here

>will help me out on this), but I would assume that a

>supposedly legitimate escort business could not advertise that

>they will not service customers of certain races.

 

If we are talking about something that occurred in California, that state's Unruh Civil Rights Act prohibits discrimination on account of race by "all business establishments of every kind whatsoever." I think it would cover anyone who purports to operate a legitimate business in California.

[guyinsf]

Extrapolate your logic to other professions and see what you think. What if a barber decides that turning away clients of particular races makes sense to him because it just isn't a "good match" for him? (Mind you, a client may choose to hire a certain barber because of that barber's perceived expertise with certain kinds of hair, but a client choosing the best available provider is legal; a business refusing service to an entire group of people is illegal discrimination.) How about a hotel refusing to rent rooms to people of certain races because the hotel owner and/or staff has decided that "those people" just aren't as compatible as people of other races and so would not enjoy staying in the hotel as much? Etc, etc.

 

The bottom line is that no one is likely to be prosecuted because of racial discrimination when it comes to escorting because the activity is already outside the law. This doesn't make it "right", though. And I don't buy the argument that excluding a black person is equivalent to excluding clients who request activities out of the scope of your interest or willingness to perform. All businesses have certain products and/or services that they are selling. Not selling something that you are unable or unwilling to provide is not discrimination, but deciding that you will offer that service to people of only select races is discriminatory.

 

I can understand an escort wanting to feel comfortable with the clients who hire him so that he can perform his best. The bottom line for me as a client, however, is that I don't really want to hire an escort who is carrying a lot of baggage about what his clients must look like. Even though my skin is pale, I view an escort with a "whites only" policy as someone who is more likely to find other "faults" with me. I figure that if a client is clean and treats the escort with respect, an escort should be able to behave professionally. I'm not so naive as to believe that an escort's mind or dick are going to respond to me the same way they do when the escort is choosing a sex partner for his own pleasure, but the reason why money is being exchanged is that the escort wouldn't choose to have sex with me otherwise.

 

 

>Well, I figured I'd put my 2 cents in on this matter.

>Being an escort I would have to agree with some points, but

>then disagree with others... somewhat.

>I don't think that it is unlawful to turn away a client based

>on race. But let me clarify that comment. For the experience

>of hiring an escort to be most satisfying, it is best that the

>escort/client relationship be somewhat of the same interest.

>For example, when someone asks me if I am into something that

>I am not, I tell that it probably wont be a good match. I try

>to explain that for their own benefit they should look

>elsewhere. This is sometimes the case when people ask for

>something a little out of my realm (like scat or bareback,

>etc.) It's just good professional responsibility to let the

>potential client know boundaries and preferences. I would

>classify this instance of turning away a client to that of

>race as well. Some escorts just prefer to not be hired by

>some races. This shouldn't be taken as a negative or with

>offense, on the contrary, it's better to know this up front.

>Why not post this in ads? Good question... my only answer

>would be that most escorts (rather than just say I only work

>for my race) try to work with a potential client and see if

>it's good match. My only advice is to be aware that

>communication is the key. Be upfront and honest, that is the

>basis for a successful interaction. If you are concerned

>about race issues, just say it... the same goes for age,

>weight, etc. Most escorts will not push you aside if they are

>professional, curtious, and respectful. I mean, c'mon, that's

>what we're here for!

>That just this escort's opinion. Take it for what it's

>worth.

>Yours,

>-Chris

[woodlawn]

Common sense at last

 

>I can understand an escort wanting to feel comfortable with

>the clients who hire him so that he can perform his best. The

>bottom line for me as a client, however, is that I don't

>really want to hire an escort who is carrying a lot of baggage

>about what his clients must look like. Even though my skin is

>pale, I view an escort with a "whites only" policy as someone

>who is more likely to find other "faults" with me. I figure

>that if a client is clean and treats the escort with respect,

>an escort should be able to behave professionally. I'm not so

>naive as to believe that an escort's mind or dick are going to

>respond to me the same way they do when the escort is choosing

>a sex partner for his own pleasure, but the reason why money

>is being exchanged is that the escort wouldn't choose to have

>sex with me otherwise.

 

 

Because a number of regular posters here are so dependent on escorts that they try to rationalize anything an escort does, it isn't often that I see a response as sensible and levelheaded as what you have posted above. Kudos.

[Guest timgetrum]

It is wrong to be prejudiced. As a client it is best to face the truth, that there is prejudice out there towards clients, just like prejudice toward escorts. Best to lay out your stats, preferences etc. and not ask "if this is a problem..." Worry not, the escort directly or indirectly is likely to let you know, especially if they have had consistently good reviews. There are great escorts awaiting the old, fat, ugly and strange. Love the free market!

[Guest RandyRon]

>>There are great escorts awaiting the old, fat, ugly and

>strange.

>

>Bingo, and for those who are older and/or overweight, don't

>hesitate to contact me, and don't write me your stats, because

>I don't even want to know (!) your age, weight or looks before

>we meet.

>

 

>

>My warmest, Anton/Amsterdam.

>

 

Anton,

 

Being one of the old, fat, ugly, and strange (can you do it while hanging from the chandelier and playing a trumpet?), I am happy to see escorts like you. Hope to get to Amsterdam one of the days and get to know you (both in the Biblical sense and otherwise.)

[Guest TommyTam]

Tell him you are a Twinkie (yellow outside white inside) or Oreo Cookie (brown outside white inside)...LOL :+ :+ :+

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[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Well, i prefer that my guys be breathing...

 

Necrophilia just doesn't turn me on as much as it used to. I suppose it's that wicked embalming smell and all. Eh *shrugs*

 

Seriously, as for 'race profiling,' i'm an equal-opportunity kinda guy: All shapes, all colors, all sizes, all the time. Suddenly i'm sounding quite a bit like a Ron Popeil product

 

I can see it now: 'Benjamin-in-a-can'... Just spray once a day for that beautiful, freshly fucked look. No COD's. Call now!

 

 

Warmest Always,

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[VaHawk]

"Suddenly i'm sounding quite a bit like a Ron Popeil product"

 

Can't you find those products at every yard sale for $1.25?? :7

[rakshasa]

>Tell him you are a Twinkie (yellow outside white inside) or

>Oreo Cookie (brown outside white inside)...LOL :+ :+ :+

>Tommy Tam

>Best Asian Escort in the State

>512-635-0379

>Website: http://www.tommytx.com

>Review:

>http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/tommytamaustin.html

>for more information please send e-mail to

>austintt@hotmail.com or tommy@tommytx.com

 

*Chuckle*

 

You probably don't remember me Tommy, but I've seen you on a couple of incalls in Austin and you've always made me feel comfortable and unselfconscious. And Austin seems to be notorious for color-coding, however most of those other boys seem to have left the business.