Different From Other Boys?

[Guest cp8036]

Wow, I can sure relate. I never owned a Madonna CD. Nothing against her, but I just cannot see the appeal. In my early 20's was the day of new wave/punk (early 80's). I knew I was gay, but spent more time at punk clubs than the disco-oriented gay clubs in Chicago.

 

Did anyone see the Cramps in concert?

 

My friends always said I had some defective gay gene. I replaced the differential in my Olds Toronado (front wheel drive..not an easy job), while they tanned at the lakefront. As a younger guy played little league, hockey, and so on. My apartment always had a barren, low-decor look. And most of all, I was ready to leave Provincetown after just three days -- "hey...if we get separated here.. we can rendez-vous by the place that sells rainbow jewelry".

 

I am comfortable being gay, dating, sex, men, being out. But, just dont like most of what passes for gay "culture or style".

 

Lived in Chicago and San Francisco most my adult life, and purposely avoided the gay ghettos (Halstead, Castro). I can be gay without being a clone.

[Guest Wildcats]

Do you have the label and catalog number of the Partridge family CDs?

[marc anthony]

I am deep in the closet, so that keeps me out of the gay mainstream... and I can live with that. My problem is that my sexual taste is for twinky, young bottom boys. And they usually are heavily into the "gay scene." I, on the other hand, am a jock, and love nothing more than a ball game (play or watch)... so that usually doesn't leave that much in common between me and the cutie that I want to take with me! Lucky for me I have money to spend, and they are more than happy to earn it! There's something we have in common!

[Rick Munroe]

>Do you have the label and

>catalog number of the Partridge

>family CDs?

 

I got them all on amazon.com...they're on Buddha.

[Guest Kevin 2]

>i once set the table with what i thought was a nifty new invention--sanitary napkins. i thought they were so neat and sanitary in their nifty little wrappers. my mother removed them when i wasn't looking and for whatever reason returned them to the bathroom. i, of course, found them and re-set the table, at which my mother told me that we would not be using the sanitary napkins. i acquiesced, assuming they were for special occasions only.

 

it was years before i found out what sanitary napkins were used for. sure my mother and father howled that night.

 

jizz <

 

What more can I say but thanks for my best laugh in a long time! I for one knew what those things were used for by age 8 HONEST! I have 4 sisters! PS My mother even made me bicycle to the local drug store to buy more when they ran out...I'm not kidding :o Poor little me...LOL

[Rick Munroe]

>1.) Don't wear solid black

>clothes much.

Luckily, they haven't been in style since Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation Tour '89.

>2.) Haven't looked real good

>in a tanktop in years.

Luckily, they haven't been in style since Gay Pride '99.

>4.) Don't smoke.

When did smoking become a gay trait? I'm straight now?? And my grandmother eats pussy??

>But I would have to say

>that the "KEY" thing that

>probably keeps me out of

>the gay mainstream is my

>wife.

Funny thing is, that's the one thing that makes you most appealing to gay men: lots of bottoms love to suck "straight guy cock", and a lot of tops love to know they are getting inside some bitch's (no offense to your wife) man's hole.

[Guest LG320126]

>1.) Don't wear solid black

>clothes much.

Luckily, they haven't been in style since Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation Tour '89.

>2.) Haven't looked real good

>in a tanktop in years.

Luckily, they haven't been in style since Gay Pride '99.

 

 

Rick, these things might be out of style, but they still abound in all the gay settings I frequent.

 

As for me being appealing to gay men, I'm flattered! You available?

[Rick Munroe]

>As for me being appealing to

>gay men, I'm flattered!

>You available?

 

Yes! Why do you think I started escorting? Best way to meet married guys. ;-)

[Guest BenDover]

I'm so confused. When I first came out, the last thing anyone wanted was to emulate heterosexual norms. Monogamy was a crazy idea that was part of the baggage of the marital institution. Now, all this money and effort is being expended to secure marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples. What? I've been in a relationship for over 20 years, and the last thing we ever wanted was a "wedding." It seemed that every couple we ever knew who had one of these "weddings" ended their relationships within a couple years. We used to laugh about never wanting to buy china or furniture together, being convinced it was too close to the heterosexual norm and would certainly be the cause of the end of the relationship.

And now everyone wants a kid. What? I love kids, especially the neices and nephews who come to visit, AND THEN GO HOME WITH THEIR PARENTS! So, in that regard, I feel as though I'm outside the gay norm today.

[Guest LG320126]

>Yes! Why do you think

>I started escorting? Best way

>to meet married guys.

>;-)

 

 

Been meaning to ask you why you started escorting but figured someone would jump all over that and inform me that this had been addressed in the previous 1000 threads.

 

Seriously, I will certainly keep this in mind if I get your way, as your reputation certainly preceeds me.

[Guest allansmith63]

Hey Buttnovice

 

Oops - wrong show - Parker Stevenson(be still my heart) was on The Hardy Boys - or as my brothers called it, "The Hardly Boys" - which was fine with me, both Sean Cassidy and Parker Stevenson were my teen desires.

 

Allan.

[Guest TFNH]

I'm reading through this and I see the words Delerium and great fuck music, so of course I run out to get it; in fact, I bought 2 of them. Imagine my surprise when I listened and heard something pleasantly moody and melodic, but certainly not the sort of dark-low-throbbing-pulsing sounds that I equate with great fuck music. Once again in another way, this just goes to show that what get one man going leaves another cold. Maybe I bought the wrong CD's? What is the title of the one you liked so much?

[Bilbo]

Ben - Feel the same way you do about kids. And I make a bit of my money - oh, say an average of maybe $10 per week in one of the better paying non-union acting gigs in Houston - bringing plays to elementary schools, libraries, etc.

 

However, I don't agree with you on marriage. Not being able to marry I feel marks us as second class citizens. And as long as we are second class citizens, I have less motivation in obeying the government. But, more importantly, there are a slew of rights which are given to married couples which I would love to see us win in one swell foop. Things like being able to visit each other when in dire straits in hospitals. Things like owing the IRS no more than a hetero couple for the taxes which keep afloat a government that treats me like a second class citizen. Oops, circling...

[Barry]

Matt......you have great taste (mostly) in music but please promise not to sing to me ever again. PLEASE :-)

 

I still remember sitting with you through a Rock and Roll Jeopardy marathon. You got every single question correct for the entire 3 hours. Were you hard through the entire show? ;-)

[Guest DickHo]

and me!!!!

[Rick Munroe]

and me!!! (but when I'm a top, I do 'em on their belly & reach around below)

[Matt_Vancouver]

Delerium have about 10+ albums out, but you will probably want to avoid the earlier stuff, it tends to be very dark.

The ones that Rick are probably referring to are Semantic Spaces, Poem, and Karma. All on Nettwerk records. Sarah Mclaughlin does guest vocals on a few tracks, as do several other artists.

Great fuck music is something that is individual. Delirium create sensual soundscapes, with a nice bassline.

Matt(marketing director for nettwerk records)

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Rick Munroe]

You're right, Matt. The one I have is Karma.

You know what else is good? Dimitri from Paris' A Night at the Playboy Mansion...real hardcore disco...probably closer to what TNFH is looking for. I also like Madonna's Music (the remix CD)...really hot sexy mixes that you don't get tired of.

[Rod Hagen]

>The ones that Rick are probably

>referring to are Semantic Spaces,

>Poem, and Karma. All on

>Nettwerk records. Sarah Mclaughlin

 

Having sex while Sarah is droning? You must be joking. Doesn't your partner get upset with you for falling asleep in the middle of the act?

 

http://www.rodhagen.com

"I will seek out these androids, and I

will break them with my bare hands!"

[Guest Charon]

I came out in college in the early 80s. Just over 7 years ago, I came to the startling realization that the person I loved most in all the world and wanted to grow old with was a woman, my best friend. Go figure. I'd spent all this time wrapping my head around the idea that I was a fag, and here I was doing what my mom had been praying for all these years. Then I thought about it some more and figured that the whole point of sexual liberation was getting to make whatever damn choices we wanted.

 

Our marriage, which originally was driven by my desire to give her the benefit of my health coverage, has become the central rock of my life, and I'm delirously happy.

 

My wife and I made lots of jokes at our wedding about this just being a way for me to pick up guys. "Um, well, I, uh, never, you know. You, um, aren't going to, um, fuck me up the butt are you? Please, don't (throw me in that briarpatch!)"

 

Fortunately for us, it has worked out wonderfully, but it's been different. (Like the time I flounced down the stairs of the B&B in england wearing my "Nobody knows I'm Gay" Tshirt after my wife had just told our hostess that we were on our honeymoon. Poor woman, you could tell that she just couldn't process it.)

 

PS. My wife and I howled at the sanitary napkin story.

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

>Did anyone see the Cramps in concert?<

 

I saw the Cramps in Austin about fifteen years ago. They were really awful, and Lux Interior has an ugly butt. Still, their influence is undeniable. How 'bout The Misfits (circa Danzig), Bad Religion, Minor Threat, and someone mentioned Black Flag? I've seen them all at clubs where there was always a glaring lack of gayness. Must have been too much testosterone coursing through those audiences to allow for thoughts of cocksucking. Ironic. It's good to see punks finally coming out of the closet, a la Pansy Division, Smegma, The Queers, and others. Is/was Bauhaus a fag band? Some of their members used to be the Buzzcocks, who I always figured for fruits, not to mention The Damned, who penned the all time greatest gay punk anthem, Jet Boy/Jet Girl. Did the Lemonheads go gay before going kaput? Their song Big Gay Heart would seem to show certain sympathies.

 

Regarding the original question:

>What makes you often feel like an 'outsider' when it comes to GAYDOM?<

 

I dig chicks. In the biblical sense. Also, gay fashion is nowhere, and "club music" should stay in clubs.

[Guest Zack Evans]

Part of living in a predominately gay city such as West Hollywood is being comfortable with all the typical things that are associated with being gay such as loud dance music, shirtless dudes walking around, constant cruising...etc. If this is too much for someone to handle they should just move out. Leave the environment that makes you feel like an "outsider." On the other hand, there are many peoples like me in Weho who listen to Moby, William Orbit, Prodigy and DJ Cam....eclectic music is very popular in the gay community. For myself, Depeche Mode is the best band of ALL TIME. Their blending of electronik sounds with daunting, sometimes darkened lyrics is what fascinates me so much.

 

There are many gay guys who do not fit into the conventional gay mode....and for them...they live in other areas other than a big gay mecca such as West Hollywood. I, for one, enjoy living in West Hollywood and just because I am not one to listen to Madonna everyday or go out dancing with my shirt off doesn't mean that I feel as if I'm different. I am just me. And although I live around it, I don't feel like an outsider. Instead, I enjoy being different in my own way amidst such a homogeneous environment.

 

Peace.

Zack Evans

[Guest Nice Guy]

>OH MY GOD!! I relate completly

>to that.

>I HATE, gay music. HATE HATE

>HATE.

>If I see another camp collection

>of screaming divas marketed as

>'GAY ANTHEMS' my head will

>explode.

>I am completely suprised that you

>like Ministry, Sisters, et all.

>You don't strike me as

>the type, but then again

>I've never met you. Thumbs

>up though: )(I'm an ex-goth

>from the glory days of

>Bauhaus, Joy Division, Siouxie etc.....ok

>I was 13 but still)

 

 

>I like to consider myself open

>to most forms of music,

>but bubblegum regurgitated fluff just

>doesn't fit.

>I like something that makes me

>think, invokes emotion, whether it

>be happy or sad, or

>angry, just make me feel

>something. Britney ....well she does

>make me angry, but not

>in the right way.

>We don't have to buy this

>crap. I know a lot

>of you like it, but

>c'mon it's CRAP!!: )

>Did I mention it's CRAP, (do

>you get the impression I

>don't like it?)

>Somtimes mindless fluffy poptastic tunes are

>fun, but is that all

>there is? NOPE, there is

>a whole other part of

>the music store other than

>the chart wall. Go have

>a look, buy something you've

>never heard of, but looks

>interesting, no not because there

>is some hot guy on

>the cover, but because it

>piques your curiosity.

>I used to work in the

>music industry, but left because

>I started to really dislike

>music, it was no longer

>about the music, it became

>units...how many units can we

>sell. I had to leave.

>Music is probably the most

>important thing to me, other

>than sex of course, and

>I think life without it

>would be a black and

>white silent film.

>Matt(yeesh shut up would ya!)

>

>http://go.to/mattsplace

>matt_escort@yahoo.com

 

OH.... MY!!!! GOD!!!!

First I thought Rod was loosing it or had a hell of a lot of time on his hands to sit and think

up topics... And then to read Matt's response.... What's a girl to do..?????

I have to acknowledge that Matt has one of the most diverse CD collections of anyone I know. He also is in charge of MY cd collection. Everytime he visits we go shopping, and everytime I come away with some wonderful new "tunes".

Matt was visiting me in Palm Springs last winter and just missed my Second Annual Pool Party. However this winter I will take his schedule into account as well as yours Rod!!!... Now how did I forget ROD....

Nice Guy

PS: this post has nothing to do with Rod's original thoughts... I had better call it a night LLOLOL