*visiting a (gentrified) favela

[+ SirBillybob]

Back to the titled topic:

A propos of the tour specificity and implications thus far would an old geezer sex tourist like moi super need to provide my ID for favela tour registration? I’m advised there are reasons to check guardrail infrastructure. Always be a step ahead. Seems any super uptake hesitancy on my part is now retroactively super exculpatory some years now. History is one second back. Super anonymity contingency manifesto SVP? Super included? Alternate pseudonymity super permitted with impunity, sim mockery? Rear view mirror super accessible? Well, showrunners? … Asking for the collective. Hunh? 🤷🏼‍♂️

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[hornyfrog]

1 hour ago, jjlucky said:

@hornyfrog Thank you so much for your excellent post. It made me think. TBH I've never visited this site or posted here before LatBear's generous post about Patrick's tours. And I don't post often anywhere; I have a profound love/hate relationship with social media. Even moreso these days. So I didn't really think about the implications -- implicit or explicit -- of posting or even discussing an otherwise 100% nonsexual topic on a site called "companyofmen." Call me stupid. I often am. Given the editorial context, it would be natural to make a leap toward sex work or even exploitation, etc. I get it now. Thanks for helping me to that insight. I also was not aware of all the animosity that seems to be rampant in this place. In hindsight, I might have handled this all quite differently. Live and learn!

Having lived in the favela, and working now with Brota (the microentrepreneur business incubator in Vidigal) and Solar (the fabulous school in PPG) I'm super alert to the concerns you raise around narrative, access, and wealth creation/distribution. They're extremely valid issues, and I wish that more folks were able to think and speak as clearly about them as you seem to. I guess I only hope that potential visitors / contributors to the community are not paralyzed by them into inaction or cynicism. That would be a shame for them, and for the community.

Thank you again for opening my eyes. I'm grateful.

Thanks for saying that. I really appreciate the thoughtfulness of your reply. And I agree with you on the last point. Reflection shouldn’t turn into in action or cynicism. Ideally, it should just help us engage a bit more deliberately, in ways that feel comfortable yet still respectful to the local community.

Wishing you well.

[+ Lucky]

1 hour ago, SirBillybob said:

Back to the titled topic:

Would a sex tourist like moi super need to provide my ID for favela tour registration? I’m advised there are reasons to check guardrail infrastructure. Always be a step ahead. Seems any super uptake hesitancy on my part is now retroactively super exculpatory some years now. History is one second back. Super anonymity contingency manifesto SVP? Super included? Alternate pseudonymity super permitted with impunity, sim mockery? Rear view mirror super accessible? Well, showrunners? … Asking for the collective. Hunh? 🤷🏼‍♂️

Glad you edited that!

[CuriousByNature]

10 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

participated extensively in Truth & Reconciliation, Indian Residential Schools abuse compensation testimony,

Wow, that must have been incredibly difficult and intense.  Many Canadians including me, never had any idea about residential schools until the Truth and Reconciliation events took place.  Were you involved on behalf of the students, or the churches, or the province?  It sounds like very meaningful work.

[+ SirBillybob]

13 hours ago, Lucky said:

Glad you edited that!

Just what we need, fuel tossed on what some view an incendiary mess by someone channeling complete lack of awareness that a barely skinned onion worth exploring was actually delivered by a local frog that had some legs. It was a start. Care to add anything useful to the agenda of peeling back, other than thinly veiled mockery?

Astute readers don’t need to be steered to the recognition that the ground zero starting point time mark of content criticism defies determination because the whole dynamic is circular and there exists no lack of reiteration. So that’s done and dusted, expect regularity. Then my input, then bated breath … what will drive it? Impulsivity? The wrong type or grade of emoticon buffet? Fat Fingers? Childhood? … Childish? An alliance proclamation? Muddled by exposure to multiple platforms? Lonely? Lazy? Pushing luck? Thought it the right heat temp to ease peeling?

How is it that the anthros and kids put it? Microsystem micro aggression plopped into frog’s macrosystem analytical frame, ego-screened for chatroom visa authorization? 

But thanks for the obvious absence of AI footprints. Perhaps the thought incubation tanked, DOA.

I guess I should add something about the favela. It is called Vidigal and close to the coast.

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[+ SirBillybob]

3 hours ago, CuriousByNature said:

Wow, that must have been incredibly difficult and intense.  Many Canadians including me, never had any idea about residential schools until the Truth and Reconciliation events took place.  Were you involved on behalf of the students, or the churches, or the province?  It sounds like very meaningful work.

Hugs! It’s off track. I had just posed a current thematic comparison. Won’t testify here. Is there another topic within which I might add? One where word limit enforcing trolls may be less lurking?

This thread isn’t heavily truth-weighted. Truth precedes reconciliation. Always hitch your wagon to the former. Oops, tangential me. 

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[CuriousByNature]

5 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

Hugs! It’s off track. I had just posed a current thematic comparison. Won’t testify here. Is there another topic within which I might add? One where word limit enforcing trolls may be less lurking?

This thread isn’t heavily truth-weighted. Truth precedes reconciliation. Always hitch your wagon to the former. Oops, tangential me. 

If you are ever interested in sharing the answers, please feel free to message me.  But I don't mean to pressure in any way

 

[+ SirBillybob]

4 hours ago, CuriousByNature said:

If you are ever interested in sharing the answers, please feel free to message me.  But I don't mean to pressure in any way

 

Deal, if I end up making it out, though I’m making out.😏

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[+ SirBillybob]

2 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

23 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

Let me add a little more info about the opportunity I am recommending in my OP.

I met Patrick during my last visit to Rio de Janeiro, where I spent an entire month. 

(1) not the kind of gringos who come to Brazil to benefit from lower prices. As a Latin American myself, I am particularly sensitive to this distinction.

(2) Patrick is a 30 y.o. former GP and … 

(3) Still, I believe the experience offered me a glimpse of what became Patrick’s next dream, one far more achievable than his previous one.

(1) Compared to whom now? And whose disturbing tone deaf cringey eyeroll inducing blog field work essays appended on our chat board on local haggling in sex trade / sex tourism contexts and navigating / reporting MSM brothel experiences with arguably unfortunate favela exports in remote run-down prostitution venues? 

(2) What consultative process took place in which was greenlit the integration of his prostitution work history into his tour guide CV? IDK, some young folks might like it shaken off their persona? Hardly scrubbable now is it? Maybe he and his social radius folks’ll take the hit as just another toxic gringo-sourced speed bump on his laudable life improvement trajectory. LESSON: know whose wagon you hitch to and it’s toxicity grade. 

(3) Muddled … conflated with the aspirations of which particular occupations? Is commercial sex work, while blatantly achievable for basic survival, categorizable as an occupational dream for particular constituencies? 

——

Back on topic: What guardrails for favela tour guides and tour participants? Issue elaboration on request.

How can one transcend the distastefulness of a product marketer and decouple from the type of filtering deficiency that exacerbates natural worry about outing and derogatory false narrative stimmed by incubatorial product collaborator dripping with faux altruism? I think it’s accurate to opine that this guy’s ouevre reads like the Wild West, stacked with sub-automatics, but boundaryless in your face anywhere. I should be able to just walk in unaccompanied to Vidigal, by all accounts, with less potentially risky consequences.

Up to him to self-identify. I don’t care; not my game hand. Up to him to disabuse anybody of erroneous notions of who, why, where and what rodeos host him.

Enjoy crossfire laddies (/s) NOT … friendly, hostile, id, ID, ego, superego, inflated ego, score goal, own goal, refereed, freestyle, catharctic  … what have you. Vidigal reflexivities ‘r’ us. 

~not brung to u by AI~

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[+ SirBillybob]

Imma testify on frog’s reference to photo opps guardrails in trade contexts and where tourism voyeurism checks apply, but must be new topic. Looky Lous no entrance fee. Thanks for making me horny for lesson plans and appropriate legit historical referencing. Nothing is ever truly punctuated 🤷🏼‍♂️

(It’s raining cats and dogs.)

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[+ SirBillybob]

Me? HIPPA-equivalent firewall intact.

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