SAG/AFTRA Awards

[d.anders]

Was surprised that Netflix carried it live. The red carpet was insufferable. I don't know who the two women were, but they were terrible at banal questioning. The actor's agony answering those inane questions was quite noticeable.

What a surprise for Timothée Chalamet. I didn't love his acceptance speech. Conclave was also a surprise. I did enjoy that film. Saw it twice. I will probably watch it again.

Had no idea that Kristen Bell could sing. She was pleasant.

Jessica Williams was great dealing with Harrison Ford.

Loved Jane Fonda. She is remarkably sharp for her age.

I was a bit shocked by Pamela Anderson's appearance. I don't think retro 40's hair works with no make-up. She looked grossly unfinished to me. I do want to see her movie, though.

[MikeBiDude]

7 hours ago, d.anders said:

What a surprise for Timothée Chalamet. I didn't love his acceptance speech. Conclave was also a surprise. I did enjoy that film. Saw it twice. I will probably watch it again.

Unabashed Chalamet fan here…did NOT like his acceptance speech. Conclave could be an academy awards sleeper. I really enjoyed it too.

[+ ApexNomad]

8 hours ago, d.anders said:

Was surprised that Netflix carried it live. The red carpet was insufferable. I don't know who the two women were, but they were terrible at banal questioning. The actor's agony answering those inane questions was quite noticeable.

What a surprise for Timothée Chalamet. I didn't love his acceptance speech. Conclave was also a surprise. I did enjoy that film. Saw it twice. I will probably watch it again.

Had no idea that Kristen Bell could sing. She was pleasant.

Jessica Williams was great dealing with Harrison Ford.

Loved Jane Fonda. She is remarkably sharp for her age.

I was a bit shocked by Pamela Anderson's appearance. I don't think retro 40's hair works with no make-up. She looked grossly unfinished to me. I do want to see her movie, though.

I applaud any woman in Hollywood who dares to go makeup-free. Pamela has been doing that for a while now, both in interviews and on the red carpet.

[d.anders]

20 hours ago, MikeBiDude said:

Unabashed Chalamet fan here…did NOT like his acceptance speech.

I watch Dan Murrell on YouTube. He says the acceptance speech has turned into a social media nightmare, without deserving the negativity. Too bad no one can control that. I'm sure it was mostly misunderstood. Even so, I wish Chalamet would have kept his private, ambitious thoughts to himself. America loves to see its heroes crash and burn.

19 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

I applaud any woman in Hollywood who dares to go makeup-free.

I don't have a problem with that. Just don't opt to do retro-glamour hair. They don't go together.

[+ ApexNomad]

36 minutes ago, d.anders said:

I watch Dan Murrell on YouTube. He says the acceptance speech has turned into a social media nightmare, without deserving the negativity. Too bad no one can control that. I'm sure it was mostly misunderstood. Even so, I wish Chalamet would have kept his private, ambitious thoughts to himself. America loves to see its heroes crash and burn.

I don't have a problem with that. Just don't opt to do retro-glamour hair. They don't go together.

Re: Chalamet — his speech just came off as arrogant and self-indulgent. Instead of the usual humility or gratitude, he focused on his own pursuit of greatness, comparing himself to legends like Daniel Day-Lewis and Marlon Brando. It felt less like an acceptance speech and more like a personal manifesto. It was a tone-deaf and a bit self-congratulatory.

Re: Anderson — she still looked great!

[MikeBiDude]

If anyone cares to see Chalamet’s speech, 2 mins here…he did thank his mom first!

 

[d.anders]

1 hour ago, ApexNomad said:

his speech just came off as arrogant and self-indulgent

There is nothing arrogant about wanting to achieve greatness in your work. I wish more younger people aspired to such goals. Speaking out loud in front of millions of viewers about your personal goals may have been self-indulgent. The guy is young, and no one is perfect. He spent 5 years on the Dylan project, and I suspect he needed this moment to let it all hang out. I'm almost sure he's regretting it now.

1 hour ago, ApexNomad said:

comparing himself to legends like Daniel Day-Lewis and Marlon Brando

He did not compare himself to anyone. He said he aspired to be as committed as those two. This is where the internet goes bad, everyone attaching their own spin on things.

I think Dan Murrell's take on Chalamet's speech is spot-on:

 

[+ ApexNomad]

1 hour ago, d.anders said:

There is nothing arrogant about wanting to achieve greatness in your work. I wish more younger people aspired to such goals. Speaking out loud in front of millions of viewers about your personal goals may have been self-indulgent. The guy is young, and no one is perfect. He spent 5 years on the Dylan project, and I suspect he needed this moment to let it all hang out. I'm almost sure he's regretting it now.

He did not compare himself to anyone. He said he aspired to be as committed as those two. This is where the internet goes bad, everyone attaching their own spin on things.

I think Dan Murrell's take on Chalamet's speech is spot-on:

 

It’s not arrogant to want to achieve greatness; it’s arrogant to think I care about the aspirations of a young millionaire playing in a creative sandbox, especially when Los Angeles firefighters and first responders were just a few feet away.

Aspire / compare = semantics.

[d.anders]

3 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

it’s arrogant to think I care about the aspirations of a young millionaire playing in a creative sandbox

I get this point, but in fairness, he was voted on by a room full of his peers, and he was speaking to a room full of his peers. I don't think he was speaking to you. Maybe he forgot that Netflix was carrying the show live. I'm trying to cut him some slack, because he is a mega talent, and he's still very young.

[+ ApexNomad]

1 hour ago, d.anders said:

I get this point, but in fairness, he was voted on by a room full of his peers, and he was speaking to a room full of his peers. I don't think he was speaking to you. Maybe he forgot that Netflix was carrying the show live. I'm trying to cut him some slack, because he is a mega talent, and he's still very young.

He’s very talented and has a bright future ahead of him.

Come on—an actor at a televised awards show absolutely knows when a camera is on him. There’s a blinking red light and a countdown clock telling them when to get off stage. He’s also dating a Kardashian - experts at self promotion and cameras. He’s young, not stupid.

[d.anders]

12 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

Come on

I wasn't exactly serious.

12 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

He’s also dating a Kardashian

I guess that's a good reason to throw hate on him. LOL.

[MikeThomas]

20 hours ago, MikeBiDude said:

If anyone cares to see Chalamet’s speech, 2 mins here…he did thank his mom first!

 

Is that his normal accent?  Very odd.

[SirBillybob]

3 hours ago, MikeThomas said:

Is that his normal accent?  Very odd.

I can’t get past the high rising terminal habit, aka uptalk. In contrast to similar Australian speech patterns I wonder if the inflection replaces “you know?” at the end of a declarative statement, which he says at least once.

Otherwise, yes, the word pronunciation is consistent with, say, (semi-)scripted but where he is himself such as SNL monologues. Not a linguist but I think he goes hard on r’s that occur lateR in a woRd.

His sister Pauline, presumably also fluent in French, is featured in the series Sex Lives of College Girls and plays a New England student from Arizona, but I have not heard her speech patterns in interviews &c.

As far as greatness aspirations it seems to me that he is somewhat locked into roles where the character is physically diminutive or could conceivably be of any somatotype. Streetcar? Nope. Maybe after 5 years of possible carbs restriction he’ll pop some Wonka treats and have more options to play against physical type to date. 

Edited February 26 by SirBillybob