Prostitution ? What about cops ?

[Guest Stephan-Lacoste]

LAST EDITED ON Mar-02-01 AT 06:45PM (EST)[p]Hi folks how are you doing?

I rarely worry about cops, and in my 2 years of escorting i had always been lucky with that problems. But It seems that today, I can't get my 6th sense works as it used to and I need to be more careful about it.

I have heard so many escorts getting busted here in vegas, and some are my friends. I don't talk about others in the country.

I need your opinion about that subject:

Can cops bust you at your own place?

I mean, it is one thing to be called at one of those popular hotel in Vegas or wherever you are and get busted by the police, what about those who choose to only do in calls? Is there any danger about getting into problems with law?

I only heard the contrary to my knowledge, but i need you to tell me what you think...

Thanks for your comments

Love

Stef

 

 

Stephan Lacoste

1-310-739-7842

http://www.stephanlacoste.com

http://www.eboysvideo.com

[Justice]

LAST EDITED ON Mar-02-01 AT 07:07PM (EST)[p]As a client, I too worry about getting busted when doing an incall. Part of me says that these stings are usually quite organized and that they generally take place at hotels because the cops want to bust as many escorts as possible. I recently saw a repeat of an episode of COPS (on Court TV), that focused on straight prostitution busts in Tampa and Las Vegas. In both instances, there were multiple cops involved, they operated out of adjacent hotel rooms, and set up surveillance equipment before calling in the escorts. That sounds like your typical sting and the logistics would be very difficult in a private residence. Another part of me says that you never really know. Recent press reports about a raid of a straight escort service in New York mention that the bust took place at an apartment that was being used as the service's incall location. Since anything's possible, please be careful regardless of whether its an incall or an outcall.

[Guest Jerry]

Yes, cops can bust an escort even in the escort's own home. Your new client who is coming to your home for an in-call could really be an undercover cop. Making a bust on an in-call is more dangerous for the police and, thus, less like than a sting operation in a hotel.

 

If a cop busts you in your home, he may look around for evidence of other crimes, such as illegal drugs.

[Guest Stephan-Lacoste]

I kinda knew about it but could not accept it. Even after echoes that I heard around saying it was not that way.

Well I guess the best way to set up something today it is to just tell the person who is trying to hook up with me " let's get a drink or something" before to talk any longer.

Man that is sucks. Even in your own place.

 

Stephan Lacoste

http://www.stephanlacoste.com

http://www.eboysvideo.com

[Guest regulation]

>I kinda knew about it but

>could not accept it. Even

>after echoes that I heard

>around saying it was not

>that way.

>Well I guess the best way

>to set up something today

>it is to just tell

>the person who is trying

>to hook up with me

>" let's get a drink

>or something" before to talk

>any longer.

>Man that is sucks. Even in

>your own place.

>

 

Or, you could just obey the law.

 

As they say in Sweden, a hole in the ice is dangerous only to those who choose to go skating.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Mar-03-01 AT 01:09AM (EST)[p]>

>Or, you could just obey the

>law.

>

 

Yes, Stefan you could...

 

and while we're at 'obeying the law' I point out that sodomy laws exist in 19 states ranging from misdemeanors (min -- 30 days and $500 in Arizona) to felonies ( max -- 20 years in Massachusetts -- that liberal bastion). Ah... the Land of the Free. :-( But since that is what the people want, who are we to object. :o

 

The good news is... six of these 19 states are enlightened enough to limit their sodomy laws to homosexuals only. :-( The remaining thirteen are equal opportunity, at least on the books.

 

http://www.actwin.com/eatonohio/gay/sodomy.html

 

And while on the subject, whatever happened to those good old 'separate but equal' laws we could obey (eg. Plessy vs. Ferguson). They don't make laws like they used to, do they !!

[Guest safesane]

Hi Stef,

 

I thought you were in "retirement" mode......What? Me Worry!

Isn't this the kind of stress you were ranting about a while back.

Just retire & RELAX............

[Guest regulation]

>LAST EDITED ON Mar-03-01

>AT 01:09 AM (EST)

>

>>

>>Or, you could just obey the

>>law.

>>

>

>Yes, Stefan you could...

>

>and while we're at 'obeying the

>law' I point out that

>sodomy laws exist in 19

>states ranging from misdemeanors (min

>-- 30 days and $500

>in Arizona) to felonies (

>max -- 20 years in

>Massachusetts -- that liberal bastion).

>Ah... the Land of the

>Free. :-( But since

>that is what the people

>want, who are we to

>object. :o

>

 

Who indeed? One of the annoying little inconveniences of living in a democracy is that one must allow the people to have some actual input into legislation and law enforcement.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Mar-03-01 AT 10:26AM (EST)[p]>

>Who indeed? One of the

>annoying little inconveniences of living

>in a democracy is that

>one must allow the people

>to have some actual input

>into legislation and law enforcement.

>

 

Tell Rosa Parks that! I think it is called standing up for your rights -- may not always be easy but don't expect the majority to hand them to you on a platter. Sometimes it just doesn't work that way.

[Guest regulation]

>LAST EDITED ON Mar-03-01

>AT 10:26 AM (EST)

>

 

>Tell Rosa Parks that! I

>think it is called standing

>up for your rights --

>may not always be easy

>but don't expect the majority

>to hand them to you

>on a platter. Sometimes

>it just doesn't work that

>way.

 

 

I don't know Rosa Parks personally, but based on the biography of her that I read I don't think she would care to have her life story used to encourage people to defend prostitution. As a matter of fact, she and the black clergymen who organized the bus boycott are almost certainly part of the "majority" you are criticizing.

 

I don't expect the majority in our society to do anything other than to defend their values and beliefs. I certainly don't expect them to abandon their beliefs simply because I ask them to do so. Life just doesn't work that way.

[Guest Stephan-Lacoste]

>Hi Stef,

>

>I thought you were in "retirement"

>mode......What? Me Worry!

>Isn't this the kind of stress

>you were ranting about a

>while back.

>Just retire & RELAX............

 

Oups here again a mistake.

I have told people I were in Retirement which is true in one way. Again if you read my email, it says that I only keep in touch with people I already met before.

Now the reason of this post is only because I need to know the law better than I think I know it. If I do worry about it, it is for very good reasons. If I say, I used to feel the danger before, it is because I was in the middle of the action. Today it is totally different. Because again as you though, I am in retirement. So no action.

I do have a boy friend I do love very much and that I would kill myself if something ever happen to him. Yes he does the same thing that I used to and this is the only reason I do care about the law. I can't feel the little danger in the escorting anymore because I'm not on call everyday !!

 

Hope you make the difference

 

Stephan Lacoste

 

http://www.stephanlacoste.com

http://www.eboysvideo.com

[+ Lucky]

Questions

Stefan: Well, if you are in retirement and only seeing certain people, why do you always post your contact information?

And Regulation, if you are so anti-prostitution, what the hell you doing here?

[Bilbo]

Reg - I belong to a church, the Metropolitan Community Church, which sincerely believes that there is nothing inherently wrong with what many call sodomy. (OK, I call it that myself sometimes, even though I know that it was not the sin for which the city of Sodom was destroyed.) One certainly can't expect me to give up my beliefs simply because they bother other people, can one? I could see it if I believed in something that was actually endangering other people, like ritual human sacrifice by throwing people off of sky scrapers at the height of rush hour. But for something that if they mind their own business other people won't even know is going on?

What is your interpretation of freedom of religion? Ditto of the seperation of church and state?

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Mar-04-01 AT 01:56AM (EST)[p]

So you think Rosa and her friends would support the authorities busting down bedroom doors to enforce the laws of 19 states against two consenting adults in private with or without the exchange of money?? I doubt it!! MHO

[Guest Stephan-Lacoste]

>Questions

>Stefan: Well, if you are in

>retirement and only seeing certain

>people, why do you always

>post your contact information?

>And Regulation, if you are so

>anti-prostitution, what the hell you

>doing here?

 

 

Lucky, first of all, before to say something stupid, you should read everything I have said. Where the hell did I say that I was anti-prostitution? Tell me where? Come one this is really dumb to say such things. I'm an escort, and not new at it. If I were against prostitution why would I escort people all over the country?

Second of all, the day I told everyone I was retiring for guys like you (News got it //or maybe tried to hook up but did not work so now disappointed?) I also told that I would stay in touch and keep posting messages here on that site and all over the net. It seems that you are not brain new to that site, view the number of post you have, well you are not the only one in this world and everyday, others discover that site and check those posting. People who does not know you at all, who does not know me at all, and I think by adding in my signature my contact information is just being respectful to those who would like to get in touch with me and ask me questions about what I have to say. AND NOT TO SELL MYSELF AND DOING ADVERTISEMENT. I have better thing to do.

 

Now an other thing I would like to say: Read the Subject. What does it say? What did I write in my message? Nothing concerning what you had to say above. So next time you would like say something to me, or say something about me, just publish a new post, I would be more than happy to get back to you. But PLEASE stay away of an interesting subject I'm trying to talk about. Stay away if you can't answer to me and tell me smartest things.

IT concerns everyone, clients and escorts, and If It does not concerns you, just stay away and go make some tea !!

 

Stephan Lacoste

http://www.stephanlacoste.com

http://www.eboysvideo.com

[+ Lucky]

Golly gee, Stefan, maybe you should follow your own advice and read before you post. I remember your touching retirement letter, but every time you post you include contact information. If you are only seeing previous clients, wouldn't they already have that information?

And if you had read the other posts besides your own, you would have realized that one of my two questions was directed at you, and another at a poster using the name Regulation. Or, if you had actually read my post carefully, you would have noticed that I even directed my questions by name. That means that the "anti-prostitution question" was directed to the person whose name I used before the question. That person was not you. Is it clear now?

[Guest Traveler]

>

>Who indeed? One of the

>annoying little inconveniences of living

>in a democracy is that

>one must allow the people

>to have some actual input

>into legislation and law enforcement.

 

Well, we're not exactly living in a pure democracy. We're living in a Constitutional democracy, which means that the "tyranny of the majority" has to be tempered by overriding principles as written in our federal and state Constitutions. But to answer the original question, I don't think you can be busted if you don't agree to do a certain sexual act for money. You can discuss your preferences on the website, making it plain that those are just your preferences, and you're not promising sex for money. Also, if you don't exchange money until AFTER sex is completed, you should be able to avoid trouble. I can't imagine a policeman is going to have sex with an escort in order to effectuate the bust. Imagine the publicity. And what would his colleagues/significant other think!

On this subject, has anyone ever heard of a bust taking place where no money exchanged hands, or after the sex has occurred? I think that sounds a little far-fetched. For what it's worth, San Francisco's DA has stated publically many times that he would never prosecute prostitution as long as it's kept off the streets (they do have major programs to combat street hookers, though). You could always set up shop here in SF. I've been dying to hire you!

[Guest Stephan-Lacoste]

>Golly gee, Stefan, maybe you should

>follow your own advice and

>read before you post. I

>remember your touching retirement letter,

>but every time you post

>you include contact information. If

>you are only seeing previous

>clients, wouldn't they already have

>that information?

>And if you had read the

>other posts besides your own,

>you would have realized that

>one of my two questions

>was directed at you, and

>another at a poster using

>the name Regulation. Or, if

>you had actually read my

>post carefully, you would have

>noticed that I even directed

>my questions by name. That

>means that the "anti-prostitution question"

>was directed to the person

>whose name I used before

>the question. That person was

>not you. Is it clear

>now?

 

Well, It seems that none of us want to read word by word the post isn't? Otherwise you would have read why I always put my contact information. Just look above , don't ask me to repeat please don't. Ok Ok let me repeat, that way you don't have to look above : or why not just copy what I already wrote ? Humm let's see "........by adding in my signature my contact information is just being respectful to those who would like to get in touch with me and ask me questions about what I have to say. AND NOT TO SELL MYSELF AND DOING ADVERTISEMENT. ....." how does that sounds ?

Now what is the real problem or what is the big deal for you that I do ad my contact information? IT really DOES NOT MEAN " Here Lacoste on sale " ! It is just a way for peope to know who I am. THAT IT ALL .THAT IS ALL.

Now about the REGULATION thing, yep you are right. I'm sorry

but again when I did read it, I did not understand until I found about The poster named Regulation. That word has a meaning as every other word and the way it is wroten, has a very good meaning too. IT is kind of confusing. anyway now that everything is clear have a good night

 

This messsage is being posted by Stephan Lacoste. For those who do not know who I am , please check the links below. For those who do know how I am, sorry about bombing you of my contact information. I totally understand that you do have them already and that you do know how to get hold of me but I can't screen all readers......

Stephan Lacoste

http://www.stephanlacoste.com

http://www.eboysvideo.com

[Justice]

> Also, if

>you don't exchange money until

>AFTER sex is completed, you

>should be able to avoid

>trouble. I can't imagine

>a policeman is going to

>have sex with an escort

>in order to effectuate the

>bust. Imagine the publicity.

> And what would his

>colleagues/significant other think!

 

Good point!

 

> On

>this subject, has anyone ever

>heard of a bust taking

>place where no money exchanged

>hands, or after the sex

>has occurred? I think

>that sounds a little far-fetched.

 

It's not the same thing, but my local papers recently reported that retired superior court judge was literally caught in the act during a raid of a suspected brothel in North Plainfield, New Jersey.

 

> For what it's worth,

>San Francisco's DA has stated

>publically many times that he

>would never prosecute prostitution as

>long as it's kept off

>the streets (they do have

>major programs to combat street

>hookers, though).

 

I wish that was true of EVERY city and State.

[Guest Mark]

Yep--that's why I live in San Francisco! Just for the record, Berkeley and Oakland have also stated that they will not go after prostitutes who operate in the privacy of their home.

[Guest regulation]

>Questions

>Stefan: Well, if you are in

>retirement and only seeing certain

>people, why do you always

>post your contact information?

>And Regulation, if you are so

>anti-prostitution, what the hell you

>doing here?

 

 

Would you mind reproducing on this board any post of mine in which I stated that I am opposed to prostitution?

[Guest regulation]

>LAST EDITED ON Mar-04-01

>AT 01:56 AM (EST)

>

>

>So you think Rosa and her

>friends would support the authorities

>busting down bedroom doors to

>enforce the laws of 19

>states against two consenting adults

>in private with or without

>the exchange of money??

>I doubt it!! MHO

>

 

How would you know? Based on her biography, I think Ms. Parks had some very conventional ideas on the subject of sexual morality. In fact, I don't think her values were much different from those of the white people of Montgomery among whom she lived and worked. I think the only real difference between her and them is that she thought blacks should be treated equally and they didn't. Take away that issue, and I don't believe you'd find many -- if any -- differences.

[CT Dick]

I am not a lawyer so this is not sound advice:

 

I don't think that there actually has to be an exchange of money for the cops to make a bust.

 

I have heard/read about busts where the cop said something like "You're gunna let me fuck you for $150, right?" and then when the escort agreed he got busted.

[Guest regulation]

>Reg - I belong to a

>church, the Metropolitan Community Church,

>which sincerely believes that there

>is nothing inherently wrong with

>what many call sodomy. (OK,

>I call it that myself

>sometimes, even though I know

>that it was not the

>sin for which the city

>of Sodom was destroyed.) One

>certainly can't expect me to

>give up my beliefs simply

>because they bother other people,

>can one? I could see

>it if I believed in

>something that was actually endangering

>other people, like ritual human

>sacrifice by throwing people off

>of sky scrapers at the

>height of rush hour. But

>for something that if they

>mind their own business other

>people won't even know is

>going on?

 

I know of no law in this country that penalizes anyone for his or her beliefs. The law regards only behavior, not belief. And it is well settled that a group of people cannot nullify a statute simply by creating a "church" that "believes" in whatever behavior the statute forbids. Had David Koresh been captured alive, the fact that his "church" approved of his practice of having sexual relations with teenagers would not have saved him from prosecution. Nor do Muslims in this country claim the right to have multiple wives, despite the fact that the Koran clearly endorses polygamy.

[Bilbo]

You're so pragmatic. Is the status quo that comfortable for you?

 

I can't say that I am a big admirer of the government actions backed up by military that ran all polygamous Mormons underground. Both philosophically and because anyone with a proper grudge against the government is safer to me when he/she is out in the open.

 

Does your vocabulary have a definition for victimless crime? We ran into some problems lately trying to define it around here. Please advise.