411 on Joserinama in San Diego *new*

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https://rentmasseur.com/Joserinama

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Edited November 29, 2024 by 7829V

[CuriousByNature]

Always nice to see someone smiling

[calimascguy]

13 hours ago, 7829V said:

https://rentmasseur.com/Joserinama

5136562064

 

Damn, Jose is a stud! What a hot body😍

[Harryinny]

His back tat turns me off!

[JMS]

10 hours ago, Harryinny said:

His back tat turns me off!

I agree.  But I'd want him on his back the whole time, so ...

[+ 7829V]

Any updates?

[RKD]

He insisted that I pay him before the session. I declined.

Edited December 14, 2024 by RKD

[chadLA]

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[mscle32]

Bump

[+ glutes]

On 12/13/2024 at 9:36 PM, RKD said:

He insisted that I pay him before the session. I declined.

Pay before you even got there (deposit?), or when you arrived?

Edited December 17, 2024 by glutes

[Gps]

Bump

[EastbayMike]

On 12/16/2024 at 8:34 AM, glutes said:

Pay before you even got there (deposit?), or when you arrived?

Either way that's a bad sign. Hire a real masseur or an escort. 

[coriolis888]

On 12/16/2024 at 8:34 AM, glutes said:

Pay before you even got there (deposit?), or when you arrived?

If you are in his residence or his indoor place of meeting and you refuse to pay in advance after he insists on prepayment, how do you exit without a physical confrontation or even a fight?

If he comes to your place and insists on prepayment, how do you get him to exit without a fight or argument?

Either way, if you go to his facility, or he comes to your place, how can you get out of the situation if the escorts insists on prepayment of services?

Seems like a potentially dangerous situation when you have an aggressive escort insisting on prepayment and your decision to cancel the meeting while the escort came to your place or you went to the facility of the escort.  

I can see a fight or, at a minimum, a hostile situation that might not end well.  

At a minimum, starting off a sex meeting with an argument must surely detract (or worse) from the anticipated pleasurable expectation, prior to the demand for prepayment.   

[coriolis888]

On 12/13/2024 at 9:36 PM, RKD said:

He insisted that I pay him before the session. I declined.

How did the demand end, with an agreement or a physical fight or threat?  Peacefully?

[JMS]

3 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

If you are in his residence or his indoor place of meeting and you refuse to pay in advance after he insists on prepayment, how do you exit without a physical confrontation or even a fight?

If he comes to your place and insists on prepayment, how do you get him to exit without a fight or argument?

Either way, if you go to his facility, or he comes to your place, how can you get out of the situation if the escorts insists on prepayment of services?

Seems like a potentially dangerous situation when you have an aggressive escort insisting on prepayment and your decision to cancel the meeting while the escort came to your place or you went to the facility of the escort.  

I can see a fight or, at a minimum, a hostile situation that might not end well.  

At a minimum, starting off a sex meeting with an argument must surely detract (or worse) from the anticipated pleasurable expectation, prior to the demand for prepayment.   

I would think that a request for pre-payment would be articulated when setting up the appointment. In that case, I would refuse it. However, if it was made upon arrival I would question why he didn't bring that up before and tell him that I would never pay for any type of service until it was rendered. Do you go to the doctor and pay for his services before the appointment? Do you go to a barber and pay for his services before he cuts your hair?

[coriolis888]

4 hours ago, JMS said:

I would think that a request for pre-payment would be articulated when setting up the appointment. In that case, I would refuse it. However, if it was made upon arrival I would question why he didn't bring that up before and tell him that I would never pay for any type of service until it was rendered. Do you go to the doctor and pay for his services before the appointment? Do you go to a barber and pay for his services before he cuts your hair?

It is nice to think about what we would say if an escort reneged on our agreement prior to rendering service.  

However, on this forum, many of us visit foreign countries where escorts do not speak English.  They have learned to say (mimic) many short sentences like asking for money in advance, what they will do et cetera. 

Consequently, it is not simple to have a conversation discussing, for example, why was the advance payment not asked for at the time of the agreed meeting.  Or, any other change in an agreement the escort attempted to create just prior to rendering services.  

Escorts that insist on payment in advance (or make changes prior to the beginning of agreed on services) are often strong athletic type guys that could cause physical harm to a client if an argument came up about fees, payments or when payments should be made or any other one-sided change the escort wanted.   

It is easy for us to write what we would do but when you are attempting to talk with an escort that does not speak fluent English (they learned simple sentences, like how to insist on payment in advance, etc) it is often useless to attempt to get the escort to understand anything else brought into the conversation.  

 

[RKD]

On 12/16/2024 at 11:34 AM, glutes said:

Pay before you even got there (deposit?), or when you arrived?

He asked for payment before he got to my place. I said no.

[RKD]

On 12/22/2024 at 4:26 PM, coriolis888 said:

How did the demand end, with an agreement or a physical fight or threat?  Peacefully?

It was over texts. He kept insisting I pay him in advance. After haggling for some time (e.g., "transfer at least $100"), when he realized I am not going to pay anything in advance, he stopped texting.

[RKD]

On 12/22/2024 at 4:25 PM, coriolis888 said:

If you are in his residence or his indoor place of meeting and you refuse to pay in advance after he insists on prepayment, how do you exit without a physical confrontation or even a fight?

If he comes to your place and insists on prepayment, how do you get him to exit without a fight or argument?

Either way, if you go to his facility, or he comes to your place, how can you get out of the situation if the escorts insists on prepayment of services?

Seems like a potentially dangerous situation when you have an aggressive escort insisting on prepayment and your decision to cancel the meeting while the escort came to your place or you went to the facility of the escort.  

I can see a fight or, at a minimum, a hostile situation that might not end well.  

At a minimum, starting off a sex meeting with an argument must surely detract (or worse) from the anticipated pleasurable expectation, prior to the demand for prepayment.   

It’s definitely a dangerous situation, but I've managed to navigate a few like it. Here's what I’ve learned:

- Guy asks for an advance (via phone/text) before coming to your place: I refuse to give in to such demands. He may argue, but there’s not much he can do after that.

- Guy arrives at your place and demands upfront payment: I stand my ground and refuse. I've had two experiences like this: one guy threatened to "cause a scene" at the reception. I told him, "Be my guest, I’m not scared." After some back-and-forth, he left. In another case, the guy simply refused to leave, so I had to call hotel security. Some guys ask for payment to "give to their driver, who is waiting outside." Just say no.

- You go to his place and he asks for payment upfront or tells you to leave money on the table: Just walk away. The only truly dangerous scenario is if you’ve asked for a four-hands massage, or if he has an accomplice hidden in the room. In that case, you’re outnumbered. My advice is to make an excuse (e.g., "I have a friend waiting in the lobby") and leave immediately.

- Some guys ask for more money after the service: Just say no if you didn’t agree on that amount in advance (unless you’re happy with the service and want to tip extra).

Hope this helps.

[coriolis888]

14 hours ago, RKD said:

 

 

It’s definitely a dangerous situation, but I've managed to navigate a few like it. Here's what I’ve learned:

- Guy arrives at your place and demands upfront payment: I stand my ground and refuse. I've had two experiences like this: one guy threatened to "cause a scene" at the reception. I told him, "Be my guest, I’m not scared." After some back-and-forth, he left. In another case, the guy simply refused to leave, so I had to call hotel security. 

 

What if the guy arrives at your place which might happen to be a chain hotel where you have "status" as a long time frequent guest.  If there is a scene and you have to call security, it could put your status at risk depending on the circumstances and what the escort says or does in defending his behavior. 

In addition, the related embarrassment would be difficult. 

It is a delicate situation.  

[marylander1940]

On 12/14/2024 at 12:36 AM, RKD said:

He insisted that I pay him before the session. I declined.

[RKD]

23 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

What if the guy arrives at your place which might happen to be a chain hotel where you have "status" as a long time frequent guest.  If there is a scene and you have to call security, it could put your status at risk depending on the circumstances and what the escort says or does in defending his behavior. 

In addition, the related embarrassment would be difficult. 

It is a delicate situation.  

Yes, it happened to me twice. I stood my ground both times. His goal was to intimidate me into giving him money. But when he saw I wasn't falling for his threats and wasn't bothered by his attempts to embarrass me, he backed off and left. Really, no one cared at the hotel reception.