How the hell are these masseurs STILL in business?!

[Moke]

10 hours ago, LA90046 said:

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I’m curious— did you have a bad experience with him?  Or is he a bad actor in some so specific way other than age shaving?  I’m curious bc he used to text me when he’d be in town bc I looked at his ad and maybe asked his rate once but never folllowed up. 

[+ Dr Eric]

On 12/1/2024 at 5:11 PM, JMS said:

Yes and yes!

Hey guys I appreciate your input here, but my reviews on MF and RM are all written by real clients.  I suppose it is very easy to fake or write your own review on MF, as they require the masseurs themselves to post the reviews.   However, on RM it’s very difficult to fake a review as you are required to be a premium member to even write any review, good or bad.  Just saying 🙂

[musclestuduws]

Another one inexplicably still in business. I suppose it’s only because he is hot and guys would pay just to see/touch him in the flesh. But he has no skills and cannot care less about the massage or the client. Worst, he is enamored of himself and incapable of having even a mildly interesting conversation. There are two threads about him on here, all negative reviews (including mine). 

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[musclestuduws]

8 hours ago, musclestuduws said:

Another one inexplicably still in business. I suppose it’s only because he is hot and guys would pay just to see/touch him in the flesh. But he has no skills and cannot care less about the massage or the client. Worst, he is enamored of himself and incapable of having even a mildly interesting conversation. There are two threads about him on here, all negative reviews (including mine). 

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Silly me. The answer is that he’s also on rent.men. That’s why he’s still in business. Massage doesn’t matter, it is just a way to attract  clients. I suspect the same applies to many of the providers included in this thread. 

Edited December 5, 2024 by musclestuduws

[LA90046]

On 12/1/2024 at 11:02 PM, Moke said:

I’m curious— did you have a bad experience with him?  Or is he a bad actor in some so specific way other than age shaving?  I’m curious bc he used to text me when he’d be in town bc I looked at his ad and maybe asked his rate once but never folllowed up. 

Never met him.  VERY bad actor.

He has long had multiples profiles on all the platforms as "Rock," "AdamSuperBeef" and "MuscleManMax" with multiple locations listed as "current location" plus conflicting travel dates and locations across the profiles.

Not sure what the scam is but there is definitely a scam being perpetrated.

Also, one of his 'current' pics was uploaded over 14 years ago.  (See below.)

https://rent.men/adamsuperbeef

https://rent.men/MuscleManMax

https://rentmasseur.com/adamsuperbeef

https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/5371/

https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/33885/

Edited December 8, 2024 by LA90046

[LA90046]

 

2 minutes ago, LA90046 said:

...multiple locations listed as "current location" plus conflicting travel dates.

Case in point, AdamSuperBeef's travel schedule on his rentmasseur profile vs. his rent.men profile.

🤔

[samK]

On 9/16/2024 at 10:36 AM, glutes said:

Another one is Cam in NYC:

I saw him twice none week while he was in my city. He was a bit distance or aloof, but only half way through the first appointment. I found him kind and very handsome. The second time was more memorable and we connected even better. I saw all the comments here and it was just not my experience. If our paths crossed again I would totally hire. I wish it would haha  

 

[samK]

On 9/14/2024 at 10:42 AM, Capitano said:

Whereas most scammers do not last very long in this business, many are surprisingly resilient. Let us post links to masseurs with which we had really bad experiences when they resurface in our cities after a long time. Each case is a mystery to be solved, have they changed or do they have a particularly good recipe to keep the scam going?

This one is a relatively competent masseur who in my experience promises sensuality (nude, MT, HE) and then pretends it was all a misunderstanding. His recipe is probably frequent travel and ripping off unsuspecting clients in new markets all the time plus that enticing sweet spot rate of $160 an hour. In my experience, that rate most likely means a (straight) scammer or, somewhat unlikely, a fantastic masseur from Russia or Eastern Europe. No middle ground.

https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/44093/

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Agreed! 

He was late keeping me waited outside his hotel and I was about to leave.... God how I wish I had... Cheap oil, a firm rub at best, he had a horrible smell like BO and my 90 mins was over in 45. I still can not the scent out of memory. So gross.  

[pubic_assistance]

4 hours ago, samK said:

Another one is Cam in NYC:

"Cam" is a personal friend of mine. He's a sweetheart.

[JMS]

4 hours ago, samK said:

 

I'd like to know more about your experience with Cam.  I've been thinking about an appointment with him for a while but haven't done it.  Thanks!

[JMS]

Just now, pubic_assistance said:

"Cam" is a personal friend of mine. He's a sweetheart.

Good to hear!  Thanks for posting.

[pubic_assistance]

1 minute ago, JMS said:

I'd like to know more about your experience with Cam.  I've been thinking about an appointment with him for a while but haven't done it.  Thanks!

Cam is deep into YRMV territory.

He isn't interested in working with anyone and everyone..and he makes that VERY clear. There's a LOT of gate-keeping involved.

[d.anders]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

He's a sweetheart.

Just goes to show, one man's horror is another man's sweetheart. The road is treacherous, gentlemen. Drive with caution and street smarts.

[pubic_assistance]

On 12/9/2024 at 7:41 AM, d.anders said:

Just goes to show, one man's horror is another man's sweetheart. The road is treacherous, gentlemen. Drive with caution and street smarts.

As has been discussed here many times. Not every provider is skilled at serving anyone & everyone who walks in the door.

Some providers are gatekeepers and you need to work hard to get past the velvet rope.

Cam was rather aloof when I first met him too...but he was cute, so I turned up the charm and broke through his walls.

Everyone is unique.

[Spikeguy]

A masseur needs to be warm and inviting.  If you are aloof there are plenty of jobs that are not public facing.  

[d.anders]

3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

you need to work hard to get past the velvet rope

LOL. Sorry, no velvet ropes with me. If a provider is that precious, I don't care what he looks like, it's a turn-off for me.

Getting naked and having another man touch you is a very sensitive, vulnerable service. The last thing I want to endure, or hand off money to, is a guy who thinks he can discriminate and get away with it. People who want to pick and choose their customers, based on lord knows what, don't belong in a service business. They should be called out for their bullshit, and not be supported.

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, d.anders said:

People who want to pick and choose their customers, based on lord knows what, don't belong in a service business.

Yes..yes...yes. This has been debated ad-nauseum. Meanwhile, they DO and they stay in business.

[d.anders]

36 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

they DO and they stay in business.

There is no law against being a precious a-hole. There is a law against discrimination, but I doubt he has anything to worry about. This is like calling the cops and screaming "kidnap" when one of the HE spas retaliates against a client for refusing upsells.

Ad-nauseum or not, it's good for men on this board to see over and over again who is worth our attention and who is not. Just because Cam-Cam has been good to you, doesn't mean he's worth the risk.

[pubic_assistance]

15 hours ago, d.anders said:

Just because Cam-Cam has been good to you, doesn't mean he's worth the risk.

Oh..I wasn't endorsing him at all. I was making it clear that he's a very specific gate-keeper and only sees the best of the best gentlemen.

He's about as far from an "A-hole" ( as you insinuated ) as you get.

He's a sweet, conservative midwestern guy with a great deal of talent and a broad following of elevated people.

He's not opening his hole to any dirty old man with cash in hand and I respect him for that.  He's also a talented artist and makes most of his money from sale of his work.

 

 

[d.anders]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

I wasn't endorsing him at all.

LOL. The elitist language notwithstanding:

"very specific gate-keeper"

"only sees the best of the best gentlemen"

"a sweet, conservative midwestern guy with a great deal of talent and a broad following of elevated people"

The best:

"He's not opening his hole to any dirty old man with cash in hand."

Thank you for the laugh. I'm picturing a yellow-brick-road straight to his ass, with elevated gentlemen (and a dog) skipping north.

I'm sure there are plenty of horny gay men lining up to try the guy. Rejection is a turn-on for so many gay men.

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

He's about as far from an "A-hole" ( as you insinuated ) as you get.

I wasn't making any judgement about him as a person. I don't know him. It's the marketing behavior with subsequent reviews that deserves scrutiny and rejection.

[pubic_assistance]

13 hours ago, d.anders said:

It's the marketing behavior with subsequent reviews that deserves scrutiny and rejection.

He's gonna reject YOU before you get a chance.

[d.anders]

6 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

He's gonna reject YOU before you get a chance.

No way. I contacted him early on, before doing more research. I think I sent him a photo. He had no problem saying yes. Then I dug deeper. Saw the thread links that dated back years. I rejected him long ago. Furthermore, with all those zen words in his ads, not one word about being licensed.

[pubic_assistance]

43 minutes ago, d.anders said:

I rejected him long ago.

Oh. I see. You must feel very good about yourself, rejecting someone before he rejected you. You dodged a bullet, huh ?

Anyway...the point is that Cam is still in business and doing well because he prefers to keep a quality group of regular clientele, rather than run a conveyor belt of new men through his studio. That's the answer to the question...how are these people still in business.

[Capitano]

If you hover over a user's name, there is an "Ignore" button. Nice option!

[d.anders]

5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

You must feel very good about yourself, rejecting someone before he rejected you.

That thought never entered my brain.

5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

You dodged a bullet, huh ?

I prefer to give most gay men the benefit of the doubt. You never really know whether you dodge a bullet, because you never really know how a massage guy is going to behave until after you strip naked and get on the table. I've had many guys surprise me with their desire to explore further when all I was looking for was a good massage. Sex is usually the last thing on my mind. I realize that makes me an outlier here.