Escorts working under different names

[Guest gentleMan]

I had an encounter with an escort recently which was awkward. I'm wandering if others have had similar experiences. I made an appointment with an escort listing himself as "new in town". When he arrived I saw immediately that he was in fact someone that I knew and did not wish to see again, He was angry when i turned him away and demanded money which I refused. Why would someone use another name knowing full well that former clients will recognize them? Listing under different names is ludicrous and probably expensive. Escorts who do so get what they deserve when clients turn them away or no-show.

[Guest fedssocr]

I've had a similar experience with a guy here in DC who advertises under about 3 different names. Of course he never ages either. :-) I met him once when he was first starting out. It was an OK but not great time. Then I called one of his other ads a couple of years later. I recognized him right away. I decided to give him a chance that time...but afterwards decided never again. He wanted the money up front and then got me off as fast as possible before bolting for the door. I called another of his ads several months later. When he arrived I told him I was interested. He was a little upset, but left quietly. I don't get it either. Seems like it would be much easier to just stick to one name and do a good job instead of ripping people off and prentending to be so many different people.

[Guest bottomboykk]

I wonder if you possibly saw the same guy in DC I saw, fedssocr. I met up once with this guy (one of his names was Max; I forget the other name he used), and had an unsatisfactory time; he advertized as a dominant top, and then wouldn't fuck me. I wasn't pleased. A couple of years later, I hired him under a different name he used. When I arrived, I thought he looked familiar, but couldn't place him. I realized as we started who he was, and sure enough, once again he refused to fuck. I got mad and started to get dress. I still paid him, but let him know I was not happy. He started to get mad, and I thought he was going to hit me. He's such a hot guy to look at, but he's a prime asshole.

[Bilbo]

There are some legitimate reasons that an escort might use different names. Many clients are thrown for a loop by unexpected questions on the first phone interview, like "Where did you see my ad?" So if one is trying out a new ad venue, one does sometimes use a different name so that the question answers itself. Also, for truely long careers, there are a lot of people who one has never had as clients who will never call you and might enjoy you, but they are put off by your very longevity. "Not your father's Chevrolet!" So I would advise them, unless they have become national stars, or international like some Canadians, for example, to change their names ever 3 - 5 years. Also, if one feels that one is offering a substantially different kind of service than he has before, one might use a new name to avoid confusing the clients. However, it is obvious that the dead sparkplug that you two gentlemen may have in common is not doing it for any good reason.

[Candyman]

My recent experience was with Brett Michaels now know as Gregg in NYC. Brett who had decent reviews in LA recently wrote to Hooboy to announce his retirement. Unfortunatly "Brett" is still working and advertising in Rentboy in NYC as Gregg. Read the 3 reviews of Gregg and you will know that everyone of us was ripped off. Hopefully people will catch on to his new act and maybe then he will really "retire" from the business no matter what he calls himself.

[Guest Jayinla]

Great topic, I have often wondered this myself. In the search for other escorts to work with me, I sometimes have run accross this problem. I am very selective of who(m) i work with and the multi-name escort is usually nothing but trouble. The only good reason for someone to change their "trademark" name is becuase they have not done well under the current incarnation. They figure clients often want fresh meat, and why not trick them. I suggest you stay away from these guys as they are usually problematic. As far as the longevity of the escort, if a client likes you, they will usually see you again and again, even if you have been around for a long time. On the flip side, i once was at a person's house and he never remembered i had been there before; needless to say i never went back.. for my personal reasons.

Just remember that you are paying, so you should get what you asked for, provided the escort agreed to it.

Have a good safe time.

http://www.angelfire.com/ca6/Escortjay

Jay, in la.

[Bilbo]

I am not saying that one should try to trick clients into coming back to me. Whenever I changed my professional name, I made a point of remembering people's voices, addresses, whatever and telling them if we had already been together before, usually on the initial phone call. Indeed, there was one client who insisted that we had done no such thing, that we had never been together before, and who took it quite badly when I refused to meet with him. (No great saint here - I would have refused to meet with that one again even if he had been intentionally calling for a repeat.) Oddly enough, seeing Tampa Yankee sign his name TY reminds me that at one point, finding it one of the shortest names, and since the Advocate was charging by the letter at that time, I used that name - Ty.

[BewareofNick]

I think the most obvious reason for changing names is that the escort has developed a reputaion for being a con artist. Take OrlandoMassage4u for example. He has used almost 50 escort/massage screennames that I am aware of. He has moved from Arizona to Atlanta and now is in Orlando. He's reviewed on this site as Nick in Atlanta and Peter in Orlando. I also have a thread on him in the Deli.

 

If you'd like his full story, I have a website devoted to informing potential clients of what he's all about:

 

http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/Thetruth

[CT Dick]

That's quite a webpage.

Either someone has gone to a LOT of effort to defame this escort or this guy needs to be stopped.

[Guest Jayinla]

I do not know this escort, but i remember when i first started to look at gay magazines in az, when i lived there, that pictures of him, black and white, was already posted advertising as an escort. Back then, the echo magazine, which is the regular local gay magazine, had also the listings for escorts. I know nothing of his m.o. but i know that pictures was around a few years ago.. 8 now.. i was 18 then.. yikes!!!!! i am getting old h ehehehh

http://www.angelfire.com/ca6/Escortjay

jay

[BewareofNick]

All the information you find on the page is true. I wouldn't go to this length just to defame someone. He ripped off a very dear friend of mine and the webpage is dedicated to informing others of what he is about.

 

Jay, I hadn't realized that Nick used that picture back in Arizona, but it makes sense. He used that picture while he was in Atlanta. I also approached him under an AOL screenname that I rarely use and he passed that picture under his ItalianMasseur4u screenname (since deleted. At the same time, he was passing out the other pictures as him under the OrlandoMassage4u screenname.

[Guest Steven]

There are other reasons guys change their names. I've considered a name change for a couple reasons, but have decided to keep it at least for now. First, I picked my name in hurry back when I started escorting and don't especially like it. Second, I'm not the same escort I was when I started. This is an especially important point that a lot of people don't take into consideration. When I first started escorting I barely had a clue what it was about. I was very naive and didn't have much knowledge about escorting. I didn't know any other escorts and hadn't been introduced to all the web info sources. While there's no good excuse for poor service, there often is a good explanation. For a long time I was very nervous, worried about being arrested,, assessing each client as a potential undercover cop etc. I also didn't really know the full extent of what escorts did or what clients wanted. While no one ever confronted me, refused to pay or expressed disappointment, I know I could have made my clients much happier if had started out with all the experience I have now. Long story short, I'm not the same Steven I used to be.

 

Steven

Minneapolis Escort

[Guest gentleMan]

Thanks for your input. If I may ask, how would you handle a phone call from someone who knew you under the old name? Would you tell him up front to avoid an awkward situation? I worked as an escort when i was younger and never considered changing my work name which wasn't my real name of course.

[Guest Steven]

I want be clear and say that I don't intend to change my name. I was only giving a viewpoint that I hadn't seen here before. To respond to your question, I don't think it would be awkward if a client called you under a previous name and it would be easy to say you'd changed it. However, if an old client met you under your new name it could be awkward because he was expecting someone new.

 

Now, after being in this business for a little longer I can't imagine changing my escort identity. It took a lot of time and money in print advertising, web pages, getting listed on escort services etc. To change all of that and start over would seem insane, and be a major pain in the ass.

 

Steven

Minneapolis Escort

[Guest Traveler]

>I've had a similar experience with

>a guy here in DC

>who advertises under about 3

>different names. Of course he

>never ages either. :-) I

>met him once when he

>was first starting out. It

>was an OK but not

>great time. Then I called

>one of his other ads

>a couple of years later.

>I recognized him right away.

>I decided to give him

>a chance that time...but afterwards

>decided never again. He wanted

>the money up front and

>then got me off as

>fast as possible before bolting

>for the door. I called

>another of his ads several

>months later. When he arrived

>I told him I was

>interested. He was a little

>upset, but left quietly. I

>don't get it either. Seems

>like it would be much

>easier to just stick to

>one name and do a

>good job instead of ripping

>people off and prentending to

>be so many different people.

>

 

I agree that name changes can be a red flag. Various ages are perhaps even more troubling, because there's a clear intention to deceive. Someone who feels it's OK to deceive clients about his age probably doesn't fully respect those clients, and may deceive them about other things.

[Guest Jason Reardone]

First let me apologize for the length of this response, it struck a chord with me so indulge me if you will:

 

My thoughts on this are from a basic marketing perspective. I currently own a Consulting Company (medical). In my struggles building the company I found that supply and demand issues were strongly connected to sound marketing and development techniques. Although many of us (escorts) go to great lengths to keep our service "personal" and "genuine" in the end (as we all know) it is a business. Like any business the consumer is reliant upon what they are able to "find" or what they are exposed to in order to obtain information about the product. It is the responsibility of the supplier to properly access the consumer, entice the consumer, educate the consumer and most importantly DELIVER!

 

The objective of marketing is to GET NOTICED, that's the challenge. Afterwhich the consumer can decide for him/her self whether or not the product is something they want. Not unlike many profiles I read that say "Hot, Sexy Italian". As a consumer I think to myself..... "How does he know I think he's hot?". Or how about "Hung Big 10X8"? If I'm not smart enough to know that 10x8 is "Hung, 'OH MY GOD' Big" then I'm in Big trouble, Big, Big, 'gonna need a motorized scooter to get around kinda' trouble!

 

I have encountered many escorts that have changed their names. I have done so in the past to correlate my efforts from particular regions of the country or for specialized services performed (i.e.:massage). But each time I made a notation in my internet profile "also known as (AKA):". I did this for obvious reasons. It is my responsibility and in my best interest to not only access and entice the consumer but to INFORM or educate them with no hint of deception. Some of the most intriguing, well mannered, note worthy individuals in my life I met while escorting. Rarely have I ever encountered a client that had a difficult time understanding what was to happen or what was expected. Conversely, clients typically have a well thought out plan of action methodically devised to fit their comfort level and to ensure their own satisfaction. There are many, many well educated, well read, intelligent consumers, this site is a testament to that.

 

I see nothing wrong with an escort changing (or in some cases adding ) their "stage" name if indeed it is for legitimate reasons and that discretion is exercised in the attempt. What I mean to say is that the change or addition should follow some degree of reason and value. I do not feel however, that it is appropriate to target the same population in the same geographic location with the same services under a different name without some divulgence being offered. But then again I'm just a little farm-boy from FL, maybe I'm wrong

 

ONE THING I DO KNOW!:

Clients work hard for their money. Many, in fact will even stretch their budget in order to accommodate some companionship for an evening. I can remember many lonely closeted nights when I would've killed for a smiling face to exchange like stories with, hold hands with or just sit and watch some TV....... OK, OK, OK....yeah, AND HAVE HOURS UPON HOURS OF WILD MONKEY SEX!

 

My point is this... We (escorts) need to remember that this "business", although fun and exciting SHOULD NOT be taken so lightly. (Without sounding like the Oprah Show) We have been invited into the most private and personal "rooms" of people's lives. In one instance I was asked to interact with an individuals spouse ...... someone else's Life Partner!! I may have unknowingly taken part in an exercise designed specifically to keep them together another 10 years. Or I could just as quickly have become the catalyst for it's demise, I'll never know. Everyday we encounter new people. In some small way each person's life will be effected by that encounter with us. We should go out of our way to make every encounter a fulfilling if not, at least positive and edifying experience. Hey Boys, "Do Unto Others", Remember That?.....Whew! I feel better, Damn! Is it me or is it hot in here? (LOL) -Jason.

[Guest elwood]

Wow! Jason!

Your posting here on "name changes" was incredibly sensible and thoughtful. It makes me feel very impressed to read this from an escort. I have had the honor of meeting a number of very thoughtful escorts out there and you have shown yourself to be an excellent representative of the profession. Your views on why many clients seek escorts are unbelievably insightful. Thank you for sharing them. I wish I lived out your way so I could meet you sometime.

[Guest Jason Reardone]

I hope it rises similar reactions in others, Thanks..

[ericmagyar]

I once used (and somewhat still do) another escort name. I had some problems once in my personal life that deemed it necessary to change my escort name from Eric Magyar to Bryce Caldwell. (OK - no laughs). Needless to say, I was asked by more than a few clients if I was the same person. When all was said and done, I was able to return to my usual persona of Eric Magyar. Of course, no one uses his real name unless it is just a first name.

 

If anyone cares to, you can see my older Bryce Caldwell web site at http://pridesites.com/bryce and my newer web site at http://pridesites.com/ericmagyar

 

Cheers,

 

Eric

 

Check the differences

[Matt_Vancouver]

The ages thing in print, I agree, but on the net, I am listed as being anywhere from 27-31, I don't remember every site I am listed on, and they don't update themselves: )

Matt(young at heart)

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Justice]

LOL, as a native of New Jersey (I've actually never left, I live four blocks from the hospital where I was born and I'll be 45 this year),I very much appreciate the inside joke associated with one of your names. :7 (For those of you who don't get it, Caldwell, New Jersey, is a very upscale suburb of New York.) Way to go Eric.

[Guest MattAdams]

There are a lot of good reasons for an escort to use multiple names in print advertising that have nothing to do with deceiving the client:

 

1. It alerts an escort to shoppers.

2. It alerts an escort to vice stings.

3. It alerts an escort to scammers.

4. It provides market information on the response rate to an ad.

 

Unfortunately, none of these things really mean much on the Internet. Also, it no longer means much in print advertising because:

 

1. Escorts who cannot advertise effectively on the Internet because of their reputation are pretty much limited to print advertising.

2. A large number of the emerging leading escorts do not even use print advertising.

3. Using multiple names on the Internet is going to be discovered pretty quickly.

4. Print advertising probably brings in half the business it used to bring in two years ago, and the cost of ads have gone up about 40% or more in some cases.

5. Nowadays, if someone is using multiple names it probably means they are up to no good.

 

Although the types of scams being employed against escorts are more sophisticated, overall there are fewer successful scammers.

 

As for vice, there are ways to set things up to detect a vice sting operation going on but it is doubtful that most groups of escorts could figure out how to do that.

 

Matt Adams

http://www.whatshotnews.com

Author, Hustlers, Escorts and Porn Stars