Those who've been to both Tokyo and Singapore: which city had...

[newdad]

...had a better selection and experience for you?

Edited January 30 by newdad

[parsu]

On 1/31/2024 at 2:05 AM, newdad said:

...had a better selection and experience for you?

Tokyo is awesome for me because it's got tons of interesting places for gays to explore

[newdad]

1 hour ago, parsu said:

Tokyo is awesome for me because it's got tons of interesting places for gays to explore

what these places for gays do you recommend?

[parsu]

23 hours ago, newdad said:

what these places for gays do you recommend?

there are some onsen and hotels for gay cruising. it's fascinating. You can check out more information below Tokyo Gay Cruising Tokyo Gay Hotel

Edited February 2 by parsu

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Tokyo is just a more interesting city, period.

[mystery_man]

I would take TOKYO, all day long, over Singapore.  It's a much more vibrant and interesting city on every level.  I lived in Asia and have travelled all over the world and Tokyo is one of my favorite cities in the world.  On a recent trip, one of my colleagues referred to at as "Disneyland for Adults". 

[newdad]

17 hours ago, mystery_man said:

On a recent trip, one of my colleagues referred to at as "Disneyland for Adults". 

Was he referring to 24 Kaikan specifically?

[Marc in Calif]

4 hours ago, newdad said:

Was he referring to 24 Kaikan specifically?

Are you in Tokyo now? Bangkok?

Will you be submitting a report or any other information?

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

2 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

Are you in Tokyo now? Bangkok?

Will you be submitting a report or any other information?

@newdad indicated in another thread on Tokyo that he would be in Tokyo this week.  Yes, @newdadplease let us know what places in Tokyo you are trying this week!

[newdad]

Yes, I'm in Tokyo this week. I specifically got a hotel that's in Shinjuku, which is where they gayborhood is supposed to be. My hotel is also within walking distance from 24 Kaikan. However, since I've been here, I've been getting matches from Grindr that I couldn't say no to and I've been drained daily so far. Hence, The load and/or urge to go to 24 Kaikan has been gone. I'm starting to accept the fate that I may not end up in 24 Kaikan for this trip, but we'll see if this holds true since I still got a few days left.

 

Edited February 20 by newdad
typo

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

On 2/20/2024 at 1:50 PM, newdad said:

Yes, I'm in Tokyo this week.

What gay bars/bathhouses/massage parlors/sex clubs did you visit in Tokyo?  Which ones do you recommend, or not recommend, to other first time visitors?  How does it compare to your experiences in Bangkok?

[newdad]

Update: As my previous post says, I was fortunate enough to be getting Grindr hookups, which prevented me from exploring bathhouses mostly. However, I was determined to explore the LGBTQ culture in Tokyo—specifically 24 Kaikan because everyone online has been saying it's the gay batthouse to check out. Disclaimer: I went there on a weeknight, which is not the busiest time of the week, so this post is limited to that experience. To say the least, the entire place didn't have too many people. Probably there were about 12 to 24 guys there during my stay.

So where do I start?—I guess, we start at the 2nd floor where the entrance is (1st floor is parking for the building). Interestingly enough, you'll have to use 2 lockers. The first locker (which will cost you 10 Yen coin) is for you to store your shoes since it's a culture in Japan (and most asian countries) to remove your shoes. After stowing the shoes away, you go to the front desk to pay and be given a bag with a robe and towels along with a key for your actual locker. It cost 3900 Yen for me because I went after 9PM (It's 3300 Yen if before 9PM).

First thing I explored was the 3rd floor, which I will call the wet section (eg, hot tubs, steam room, sauna, shower room, etc.). The 2 dry saunas there have really good heat compared to the US ones I've gone to (specifically Club San Diego since I went there not too long ago). There were about 3 hot tubs—which I did not dip myself into. There was also a steam room—I did not stay too long because it was really hard to see, plus with it being a weeknight, no one was pretty much there. There was also a some kind of dungeon room that had BDSM leather swing/seat that bottom could be on (I'm sure you've seen this type of apparatus in other sex clubs). No one was using it of course because there weren't many people. The only places on this floor that were being used were hot tubs, dry saunas, and the shower/rinsing area that had seats and a vanity mirror (weird, I know).

The 4th floor was the—for a lack of a better term—sleeping areas. Most guys here were wearing the blue robes that were given at check-in. This is something not comparable to the USA bathhouses because it's literally sleeping areas. There were 2 big rooms (common areas) that had about 4 bunk beds and one big low-profile japanese bed (which is basically huge futon that is on the floor) that could fit about a dozen people. These low-profile japanese beds is where the action is happening because it allowed for guys to be near each other. Some of the guys were feigning sleeping, which I think was cue to invite other guys to give them blowjobs or be touched (If I were compare this to the USA version, it's like going to the bathhouse and you see a guy with a mask, face down, ass up in the common area basically inviting other guys). There was also a 3rd big room that only had the big lowprofile beds only (ie, no bunk beds), and in it were japanese porn being played—yes, the genital were blurred/pixelated staying true to the classic Japanese porn.

The 5th and 6th floors were mainly for private rooms. And the 7th floor, which was the rooftop, was closed because it was raining outside that night.

As for the type of guys that were there that night, I'd say about 70% to 80% were Japanese, while the rest were foreigners like blacks, indians, and east Asians that were non-Japanese. And as always, bathhouses are accessible for any guys who could pay to get in, and this one was like that. One thing that I noticed that most guys looked younger than the ones in the USA bathhouses (heck, I didn't even see anyone with grey hair); however, since they're asians, it was hard to gauge their actual age. Only one guy I found attractive because he was fit, but unfortunately, he was also a top per his Grindr profile. I didn't partake to any of the festivities because I wasn't particularly horny (and the guy I found attractive was also a top), but like I said, my main goal was to check out 24 Kaikan which is like an emblem of the LGBTQ culture in Shinjuku—I guess part of me was trying to see the gay culture in Japan.

 

EDIT: pardon any typo. no grammar check or anything here.

Edited February 23 by newdad