RATES VARY

[Louis]

The question is... escorts say that they are charging for time only. So if that is the case, then is a person not leaving themselves open (to prosecution by the law) when they say that their rate varies depending on the service?

Louis

[Guest zipperzone]

>The question is... escorts say that they are charging for

>time only. So if that is the case, then is a person not

>leaving themselves open (to prosecution by the law) when they

>say that their rate varies depending on the service?

>Louis

 

Probably not - they could claim that accompaning you to dinner was one rate, spending time gabbing with you at home was another etc.,etc.

[Steven_Draker]

I think that is important to have a clear rate policy. Someone mentioned before that "Rates Vary" means that the escort is inclined to discount his rate or willing to negotiate if you call him at the last minute. I'm not sure at what extend this is true. I charge for time only independently of what happens during the session. The only difference I make is for in-call and out-call when a travel fee is involved (cab, rental car). Usually I ask for the cab fare only and forget about my travel time.

 

Steven Draker ~

http://www.rentboy.com/location/getrb.asp?rentboy=89243&Location=108

[whipped guy]

Steven, I have noticed that in Europe there is more of a bargaining and barter mentality as far as prices and fees are concerned. This is also true in the USA when dealing with persons from the other side of the Atlantic.

 

Even though you personally keep your fees at a constant level, do you indeed find that there is a greater tendency for European clients to try and negotiate and make a deal regarding fees charged?

 

Simply due to curiosity, I would also be interested if you find that there are cultural or nationalistic differences. For example, would the Latin based cultures be more inclined to attempt to discuss price points versus the more Northern societies?

[JT Brooklyn]

Mr Whip.

May I just say, Talking to Several Guys Working It in Europe, it is just "Plain Cheaper" to Hook Up to begin with. So any "Rate Discussion' is Rarely Necessary.

 

Most of the "Visitor's" over here,(The Streets are Paved with Gold) go by the Theory, it is just more costly to do Biz, so they get the Highest they can. Apparently most Client's go along with this Marketing Ploy! LOL :P

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I disagree. It's not that much (if at all) cheaper to see an escort in Europe, especially now considering the weak state of the US dollar. Both independent and agency guys are quite expensive.

 

Look & listen around: The Euro is killing business at places like Villa Gianni in London. The same can be said for brothels in Amsterdam (the ones left). Brazilian saunas are one of the few deals left and even their prices are slowly climbing.

 

Like it or not, rates everywhere will rise. I'm astounded at the newbies out there (reviewless, unproven, etc) who are charging and getting $250+ per hour. That's a whole lot of money. It leads me to believe that there's some heavy discounting going on when push comes to shove (and it always does).

 

As for 'rates vary,' it can mean more than just a ala carte scale of sexual services. Some escorts, like me, don't always stick to a forumla when pricing things out. Most of my appointments are long-term, so it's tough for me to just say 'xxxx-amount per day.' I take more than a few things into consideration before quoting a rate.

 

 

BN

[Louis]

I can understand an escort having different rates according to how long they are going to be hired. I can also understand different rates for in calls and out calls. Yes I do understand that an escort would rates would be different if I was to hire a person for an evening, night, or weekend, and if a person has enough money obviously the longer term rates are better...probably for both parties. However there are some who charge according to what is expected of them, and there is at least one that I know of that puts it right on his advertising... an asian escort in Toronto.

Louis

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Ah... Totally understand what you're saying. I think that's bullshit as well: Charging per-sexual-service. It's along the lines of what F4M agencies do to people in Las Vegas.

 

$300 to get a girl to your room and the sky's the limit from there. That's a whole lot of cash for just a knock at your door. You might as well just go into your nice, marble-covered bathroom and flush a few more hundred dollar bills down the toilet just to get the urge out of your system.

 

 

BN

[+ Lucky]

RE: RATES VERY HIGH

 

...or better yet, put those hundred dollar bills into the slot machine. Most likely still going down the toilet, but ya never know!

[Louis]

RE: RATES VERY HIGH

 

And from my two expereinces in Winnipeg, I might as well have done that too! Escorts there are no where as good as the ones in Toronto.

One day I hope to become Nicholized:-) My location is the biggest problem.

Louis

[Steven_Draker]

>Steven, I have noticed that in Europe there is more of a

>bargaining and barter mentality as far as prices and fees are

>concerned.

 

Interesting, Whip. I haven't noticed this trend in Europe. What prices and fees are you talking about ? I'm certainly not given the opportunity to negotiate any price or fee more in Europe than in the US. Do you care to explain where are you coming from ?

 

>Even though you personally keep your fees at a constant level,

>do you indeed find that there is a greater tendency for

>European clients to try and negotiate and make a deal

>regarding fees charged?

 

No, I have not. Actually, there are very few people who are trying to negotiate my fees here in the US or even less in Europe. If someone isn't comfortable with my rate (which is public and visible on my website) I'd suggest to find someone else and I wish them good luck. My fees are (unfortunately) not negotiable.

 

>Simply due to curiosity, I would also be interested if you

>find that there are cultural or nationalistic differences.

>For example, would the Latin based cultures be more inclined

>to attempt to discuss price points versus the more Northern

>societies?

 

Certainly Latin cultures and in much larger degree North African cultures.

If you enjoy bargaining you may have an interesting experience by visiting a [a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souk]souk[/a]

 

Steven Draker ~

 

http://www.hotsexystud.com/uk

http://www.daddysreviews.com/review.php?who=steven_draker_brussels

[whipped guy]

Re: Do you care to explain where are you coming from ?

 

Steven thanks… My question was simply one of curiosity regarding possible cultural differences between Americans and Europeans. I often deal with persons in this country who are from Italy, Greece, and some of the Eastern European countries and I notice a tendency for a bargaining mentality… not uniformly across the board, but a trend nonetheless. I don’t notice this as much in persons who have emigrated from other regions of Europe.

 

Similarly, my European experiences have been limited to Italy and the South of France… not for any escort related activities mind you, but simply mundane every day type transactions… and it seemed that a bargaining approach was the order of the day. I was simply interested if this perceived mindset spread into “other” type business transactions.

 

I admire your business sense. It is always a sensible and logical practice to maintain a fee schedule that is fair, impartial and equitable for all involved. Personally, I get turned off when an individual tries to determine the value of a given service. Certain clients think they can run your business and establish what a fee should be, such should never be the case.

 

Any business owner certainly knows what his services are worth and should maintain an even handed approach. Of course, there are times when due consideration might be given to a client. In fact, at times it makes for good business for that due consideration be given. However, in such cases the person running the business makes the determination, definitely not the client.

[JT Brooklyn]

IMHO.. The "Latin Cultures" referred to have some of the Greatest Looking Men in Europe!

 

Far better looking than their Pale Counterparts of "Dubious Nationality" as elsewhere, who have to Travel to turn a buck, since the Rates just aren't coming their way fast enuff! LOL

 

They are also not "Insecure about their Self-Worth", so a discussion of Rates is not considered beneath them! :P

[IceFireWizard]

Get your pills!

 

Some people travel, others have a miserable life in Brooklyn constantly posting nonsense on an escort related message board. So pitiful.

[JT Brooklyn]

RE: Get your pills!

 

IFW...Me Thinks you Protest to Much, Unless you are dealing with Frazzled Nerve Issues, and I happen to hit One or Two?

 

That and your Reference to what apparently is on Your mind..Pills!

 

Good Luck to You with this Stuff.....LOL :P

[+ Tygerscent]

I tend to list as rates vary because my rates aer not in the ordinary. While I charge for time only, most sites ask for an hourly rate. I offer a two hour session at $350 total and then an hourly rate afterwords of $150. I do not do one hour session because one hour is fast and generally runs into two so offering two hours at a fair rate allows the comfort of time and leasure, relaxed time together with less rush and pressure of the clock: a more fulfilling and Intimate experience. I can't generally list as $350 total for a two hour session and so simply put rate varies since that is my option. I do not ask for smorgusbord extras fees or money upfront... just the session fee and we can spend time freely together the way we like. Rather then charge $250 for a rushed session for one hour then expect my Client to be prepared in advance for more is demanding on a Client and may lead to an uncomfortable situation for him should he not be prepared to pay for two hours. So, I try to remove the potential for discomfort and simply offer the two hour session at a fair price. It comes out to $150 per hour and saves the Client a potenial $50 to $150 dollars given most Escort's rates of $200 - $250 per hour. I really believe in this profession and strive for Satisfied Clients and Good Client Services. It's about the quality and less the financial quantity. I may not be rich but always know that my Client's are first and most important. I believe in the benefits of the services I provide and fulfilling my Client's needs and taking it to a deeper level.

Tyger!

http://www.tygerscent.biz

503.317.8055

http://www.daddysreviews.com/area.php?loc=63150&who=tyger_portland

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[Louis]

Tiger: thanks for your input. It makes a lot of sense the way you explained it.

Louis

[IceFireWizard]

RE: Get your pills!

 

Are you "monitoring" this board 24/7 ?? :P

 

[h2]Get a life![/h2]

[+ Tygerscent]

Always try to provide my honest perception... not implying that it is correct or perfect but offer the example/option for other's to consider.

Tyger!

http://www.tygerscent.biz

503.317.8055

http://www.daddysreviews.com/area.php?loc=63150&who=tyger_portland

men4rentnow.com tygerscent in Portland, Oregon