What is wrong with verification?

[Lookin]

RE: What is wrong with verification? / it's totally not that serious

 

<it looked like he had just come in from working on a car and his hands and fingernails were filthy and greasy>

 

And you left him standing in the hall?!!

[+ newatthis]

So here's a theoretical question that occurs to me (theoretical because I believe that everyone has the right to set rules they are comfortable with for such encounters):

 

if you are an escort who will only see clients willing to provide identifying information (landline, address, real name, whatever), are you prepared to provide the same to the client in advance of a meeting? Why or why not?

[+ ArVaGuy]

>So here's a theoretical question that occurs to me

>(theoretical because I believe that everyone has the right to

>set rules they are comfortable with for such encounters):

>

>if you are an escort who will only see clients willing to

>provide identifying information (landline, address, real name,

>whatever), are you prepared to provide the same to the client

>in advance of a meeting? Why or why not?

 

Let me add more to this line of questioning. Most escorts publish their phone numbers in their ads. Yet when calling back a client the escort blocks his number which that is expected to be perfectly acceptable for the client. Why? Turnabout is fair play in many an instance, therefore, is it not utterly unfair that clients have to accept a practice that escorts refuse to accept themselves?

 

I know that some escorts use answering services, others have pay-as-you-go cell phones. Maybe some call from home numbers when reconfirmig with a clinet. Do these practices of blocking actually provide the security you all perceive? I am sure you still get calls at all hours and its a hunch on my part that blocked numbers can be captured in some form or fashion given the right technological expertise or connections.

 

In early 1999, before I discovered the existance of this site, I was assaulted and robbed by an escort in Atlanta. I was threatend with bodily harm and was restrained by this individual in such a manner that I was in fear of my life. He, of course, requried all sorts of verification from me and blocked his number when calling me. BTW, his name was "Nick". As in Beware of...

 

This experience led me to this site and consequently I have reduced my worries about such an instance happening again. However, every single time I hire a new guy for the first time this incident raises its ugly head and gives me pause.

 

Trust is a two way street, let's all keep that in mind.

 

 

ArlingtonVaGuy

[Boston Guy]

RE: What is wrong with verification? / it's totally not that serious

 

><it looked like he had just come in from working on a car and

>his hands and fingernails were filthy and greasy>

>

>And you left him standing in the hall?!!

 

Absolutely. There was nothing attractive about this guy. 15 years earlier, he'd been a hot kid. But those 15 years had not been kind to him, and he knew it. That's why he was still trying to drum up business using old, old, old photos -- and continued to do so for a few more years.

 

BG

[Andre]

I hired a girl through an agency in Chicago once. The guy who was in charge asked TOO MANY questions. I thought to my self, “if I asked that many questions I would probably scare my clients away.” Instead of asking a million questions, I just take two minutes out of my time to talk to the (potential) client. By doing that, I get a feel of what the client is like and than I decide if I’m gonna see that person or not.

[Andre]

RE: What is wrong with verification? / it's totally not that serious

 

The reason why escorts hate blocked number so much is NOT because every private caller is calling to bull shit, but because every bullshit call that we get comes from blocked numbers.

[lerbut23]

I am glad you posted this topic.

 

I am curious as to what verification was requested. I have found escorts can be too inquiring and have generally moved on to someone else. I am paying for the session not asking for a date. . .I hate when the escort wants my picture and so much additional information as if they are deciding whether I am attractive enough to spend $250 and hour to be with them.

[Guest 8mile]

And what is it about your $250 that says an escort must sleep with you just because you have the cash?

 

zachary

[Guest 8mile]

RE: What is wrong with verification? / it's totally not that serious

 

>How about --- a wife?

 

Get a divorce bro. Either that or stop cheating on her. I highly doubt your ole ball and chain goes through the conservative figure of 200 phone numbers on your phone bill and checks them all out.

 

How about stop being so freaking paranoid. Do you realize a smart escort can learn everything he needs to know about you to blackmail you if he really wanted to?

[Guest TNT Ted]

RE: What is wrong with verification? / it's totally not that serious

 

>Get a divorce bro. Either that or stop cheating on her. I

>highly doubt your ole ball and chain goes through the

>conservative figure of 200 phone numbers on your phone bill

>and checks them all out.

>

>How about stop being so freaking paranoid. Do you realize a

>smart escort can learn everything he needs to know about you

>to blackmail you if he really wanted to?

 

 

I wasn't asking for advice. And please try to keep this non-judgmental.

 

You're certainly aware that it takes about two seconds to google a telephone number. Try it on any advertised number.

 

And it frankly it seldom crosses my mind that the type of escort I would hire would consider any sort of blackmail.

[Guest zipperzone]

RE: My own safety system

 

Juan: I understand your concerns. However, you are basically asking the client to "trust me - your confidential info is secure with me and with the person who checks up on me"

 

I believe you - it probably is, but I can't really know for sure, can I?

 

If your client is single and living alone, he is probably much more inclined to give you phone number and address. He probably doesn't have all that much to loose.

 

BUT - if is is married, or in a relationship with another male, and wants a little something on the side, so to speak, he will probably be reluctant to give out information that if improperly used, could ruin his personal life. For him, "trust me" probably isn't going to cut it.

 

Perhaps you are just a little bit too paranoid about the saftey issue. You look like you could look after yourself if push came to shove which is very unlikely that it ever would. Your insistance on having someone checking upon your arrival and departure for your saftey seem excessive to me. But hey - it's your life and your business and you have to run it the way you want to!

[Guest zipperzone]

RE: My own safety system

 

>LOL.. well simply dont call a LOT of men . to prevent this

>problem.

>this is so funny. If someone dont want to give a contact

>number, simply stick to emails and I sure some escort will

>blogg up their schedules by believing the client is legit.

>LOL> what a joke.. and give the CLIENT all their personal

>information , number, address, hotel room number etc.. It's so

>funny client want something but dont want to give up

>anything.. and whats with a phone number? again like I said

>before. who contacted who FIRST.

 

Well Ricky - not that you probably care, but with the attitude you have displayed in your various replies to this subject - I WOULDN'T CALL YOU IF YOU WERE THE LAST ESCORT BREATHING ON PLANET EARTH.

 

The way you respond to other members comments is exactly what gives many of us concerns about supplying personal information.

[Guest zipperzone]

>And what is it about your $250 that says an escort must sleep

>with you just because you have the cash?

>

>zachary

 

Are you under the delusion that this is a date?

[Guest zipperzone]

RE: What is wrong with verification? / it's totally not that serious

 

>>How about --- a wife?

>

>Get a divorce bro. Either that or stop cheating on her. I

>highly doubt your ole ball and chain goes through the

>conservative figure of 200 phone numbers on your phone bill

>and checks them all out.

>

>How about stop being so freaking paranoid. Do you realize a

>smart escort can learn everything he needs to know about you

>to blackmail you if he really wanted to?

 

It has nothing to do with blackmail - it's about a wife finding out information the client doesn't want her to have.

 

And for you to say get a divorce or stop cheating on her shows just how incredibly stupid you are!

[Guest 8mile]

RE: What is wrong with verification? / it's totally not that serious

 

>And for you to say get a divorce or stop cheating on her shows

>just how incredibly stupid you are!

 

 

EXCLAMATION POINT! EXCLAMATION POINT!

 

Yes boys an exclamation point can make your illogical argument sound too!

 

If I'm married to someone who finds there is a need to "google" any number on my phone bill or even really care to look at it, as I sure don't, than there is ALREADY something wrong with the relationship.

 

However of course I'm stupid, right? Not just stupid "incredibly stupid" If there is nothing wrong with cheating why keep it hidden? I totally understand a reasonability to ones wife and getting caught in a situation that basically out of sure respect the necessity to stay is greater than the urge to leave. In the same respect however keep your cock in your pants or don't complain when someone who is doing you a favor, i.e. an escort, when s/he ask for a phone number.

 

BUT of course I'm incredibly stupid.

 

As Usual

Zachary

[Guest zipperzone]

RE: What is wrong with verification? / it's totally not that serious

 

>In the same respect however keep your cock in your

>pants or don't complain when someone who is doing you a favor,

>i.e. an escort, when s/he ask for a phone number.

 

P A R D O N ? ? ?

 

Your client is PAYING YOU big bucks and you're doing HIM a favor?

 

Not only are you stupid you're also delusional.

 

 

>BUT of course I'm incredibly stupid.

 

Well you got that part right - maybe there's hope for you yet!!!!

(note the exclamation points honeybuns)

[Guest 8mile]

RE: What is wrong with verification? / it's totally not that serious

 

My client?

 

Know your facts stud. I'm no escort. I AM A CLIENT. EVERYTIME I hired an escort they are indeed doing ME a favor by accepting my invitation.

 

You see, the thing for some reason on this board and maybe it's not exclusive to this board but the internet, people seem to grow balls and say some things they would never say in front of someone's face. You don't go around calling someone stupid. What kind of creativity does that show. If you're going to insult someone do it like a gentlemen, develop some wit, show some class. For example this paragraph, I never called you stupid but there are some things that are slightly implied which has me coming out of this conversation without so much a dinge on my white dinner jacket.

 

 

As Usual (checking his lapel and departing)

Zachary.

[Guest zipperzone]

RE: What is wrong with verification? / it's totally not that serious

 

>Know your facts stud. I'm no escort. I AM A CLIENT. EVERYTIME

>I hired an escort they are indeed doing ME a favor by

>accepting my invitation.

 

Sorry Zach - my error - I thought I was replying to someone else. Hard to keep all the mud-slinging straight around here at times. (and I'm sure you know I'm not too bright)

 

But I really have to disagree with your concept of the escort doing you a favor. I always thought that the purchaser was doing the merchant the favor by patronizing him. If you walk into Brooks Bros. and buy a suit, are they doing you a favor by selling it to you? Not in my books. How is an escort situation any different?

[Guest Dan]

>What is wrong with verifying a client. I seem to be hitting a

>brick wall 90% of the time over simple verification. I can

>totally understand the need for being discreet and a

>requirement for privacy but to me, safety is important. It is

>not like the information obtained through verification is used

>for any other purpose than that of safety, so what is the

>problem? Any others that verify run into problems? Any others

>that do not verify ever have any situations that may have been

>avoided with a verification?

>

>Sam in Atlanta

 

No arguement here, Samala. I don't do calls without at least a number that I can reach the client at. When it isn't forthcoming, I'll let them know that the appointment isn't guaranteed without it.

 

Best,

 

Dan Dare

http://www.geocities.com/dandare_laca/DanDare4Hire.html