Dealing with harrassing phone calls - tips?

[Guest ChgoBoy]

>If I threaten to reveal your name and address, that would be

>threatening to reveal personal information. The threat

>itself, while unsavory, does not seem to be against the rules.

> However, actually revealing the information would indeed

>clearly be a violation of the rules.

>

>BN's post that I commented on contained what sounded to me to

>be a veiled threat to release personal information. If he

>were to follow through and release the information, that would

>be a violation of the rules -- as I said.

>

>However, the threat itself does not seem to violate any rule

>that I can see. It may be unsavory but it seems to be legal.

>

>I stand by both of my posts.

>

>BG

 

So then BG, by your revised standard of personal ethics and that of the board; as you see it now, I can assume that it would be acceptable,If I choose, to threaten BN, that I might hire him at a later date under an assumed name and do him bodily harm, because I think he is a jerk and that would not be breaking a rule of this message board because I really didn't infer that I would follow thru with it? This has to be the biggest dildo anyone has ever tried to shove up my ass and tell me it was a finger that I can ever remember happening to me. How can you possibly retract what you once stood for just a post ago and now claim amnesia? BG, this for me has been your saddest moment on this board.

[Boston Guy]

I'll answer this one last time. My words are clear to see.

 

You misinterpreted what I wrote. I explained what I meant so you would understand. You insist, like Woodlawn, in trying to put words in my mouth and continue to insist that I am somehow retracting an earlier statement.

 

I explained above, clearly, that was not the case. You can take any meaning you want from my posts. However, I am as free to state clearly what I meant when I wrote the posts, which have I done.

 

Finally, this has nothing to do with ethics, my personal ethics or anyone else's. As I see it, the question was whether or not the post violated the posted rules for this message center.

 

I looked through the rules and could find no rules that were broken. I did call the behavior unsavory, which expresses my personal belief about threats of blackmail, here or elsewhere. But that has nothing to do with the rules governing this board.

 

If you think his post violated a rule, then should quote the exact rule that was violated for all to see, instead of trying to twist my words into some convoluted message that fits your own agenda.

 

BG

[Guest ChgoBoy]

>I'll answer this one last time. My words are clear to see.

 

They may be clear to see, but they are far from clear to understand.

 

>You misinterpreted what I wrote.

 

I did? let's see about that. you just wrote, prior to your come to Jesus moment with someone in management, and I quote for your viewing pleasure:

 

"I agree with Donnie on both issues. (Private to Donnie: shocking, I know. Don't have a heart attack!)

 

That's hard to misinterpret, but then again, I talk to birds at the zoo.

 

First, the comment did reek of a threat of action unless Donnie refrained from commenting. "Blackmail" seems to me to be a pretty fair description of the threat as I read it. And it implied revealing some kind of personal information about Donnie that he wouldn't want revealed. That sounds like a violation of the rules.

 

Wow, That was pretty clear to me, was there another point you were trying to convey other than a complete violation of the rules?

 

Second, it's a public forum. Comments made here are "fair game" according to the rules. Even though a poster may direct them to a specific other poster, he has to expect that others will read them and have a right to comment on them in any way they see fit. Information that should remain private should not be posted in a public forum.

 

Wow, maybe all this clarity is a flashback from when I dropped acid years and years ago.

 

>I explained what I meant so you would understand.

 

And BG, I do understand babe, I really, really do.

 

 

>You insist, like Woodlawn, in trying to

>put words in my mouth

 

BG, please conduct yourself like a lady in public. There is nothing I want to stick in your mouth.

 

>and continue to insist that I am somehow

>retracting an earlier statement.

 

I'll just ditto the top of this post to comment on that BG or should I call you Mr. Retractor from now on?

 

>I explained above, clearly, that was not the case. You can

>take any meaning you want from my posts. However, I am as

>free to state clearly what I meant when I wrote the posts,

>which have I done.

 

You have stated clearly what a sudden change in behavior can do to reflect someone in the light of a hypocrite.

>

>Finally, this has nothing to do with ethics, my personal

>ethics or anyone else's. As I see it, the question was

>whether or not the post violated the posted rules for this

>message center.

 

Dont make me do this BG, but I have no other choice:...Your words follow:

 

""First, the comment did reek of a threat of action unless Donnie refrained from commenting. "Blackmail" seems to me to be a pretty fair description of the threat as I read it. And it implied revealing some kind of personal information about Donnie that he wouldn't want revealed. That sounds like a violation of the rules.""

 

>

>I looked through the rules and could find no rules that were

>broken. I did call the behavior unsavory, which expresses my

>personal belief about threats of blackmail, here or elsewhere.

> But that has nothing to do with the rules governing this

>board.

 

Threatening a fellow poster with blackmail and revealing their personal information is not a violation of the rules? SOMEBODY HERE OWES BoN A HUGE APOLOGY!!

>

>If you think his post violated a rule, then should quote the

>exact rule that was violated for all to see, instead of trying

>to twist my words into some convoluted message that fits your

>own agenda.

 

I think all the rules here violate a persons rights to free speech and expression. The only rule I live by is never disclosing personal information OR threatening blackmail to someone that personal information will be disclosed if they don't conform to their own personal #### like demands. Thats the rule that will fire up my ass everytime BG and you should be ashamed of yourself for being a "gumby" in a time where credibility and character are in limited supply.....

[Boston Guy]

As I see it, your logic is "You don't know what you meant; I know what you meant."

 

If your efforts to stir up discontent and continue trying to evoke some mysterious "management" plot here weren't so pitiful, they would be laughable. As I recommended to you before, get a life.

 

BG

[Guest ChgoBoy]

>As I see it, your logic is "You don't know what you meant; I

>know what you meant."

>

>If your efforts to stir up discontent and continue trying to

>evoke some mysterious "management" plot here weren't so

>pitiful, they would be laughable. As I recommended to you

>before, get a life.

>

>BG

 

BG, now your beginning to sound like a scorned woman who has run out of pots and pans to throw. I expected much more from you. That fact remains BG, and it's why we are here now.....You cowered under pressure to retract your earlier comments; which were, right on the mark. I have no interest in stirring up trouble with you BG, I'm a lover and I'm looking at that tight ass of yours right now!

:D :9 :-)

[Guest ChgoBoy]

Hmmmm, I guess a date is out of the question then. Well niters.

[Txpaytoplay]

Wow!!! Un-freaking believeable. Rather disappointing.

[+ Lucky]

That sounds a bit like voting for the $86 Billion before you voted against it! Must be a Massachusetts thing.

Either Benji violated the rules or he didn't, ya can't have it both ways!

[Boston Guy]

Lucky,

 

I'd have expected more of you.

 

As I said above, he threatened to reveal personal information. Sounds like that would be a violation of the rules.

 

As far as I can see, he didn't reveal any. So I don't see a violation of the rules. Do you?

 

What's very funny about all of this is that it started out with my expressing disapproval with BN's actions -- which opinion I have not deviated from one iota. I STILL agree with Donnie on both counts.

 

BG

[Boston Guy]

You cowered under pressure to retract your earlier

>comments; which were, right on the mark.

 

Your implication is unwarranted, insulting, and inaccurate in all respects. I have spoken to no one about my remarks and I stand by them all. Nor would I ever "cower under pressure" to retract any of my statements or, indeed, to make one I did not agree with.

 

Perhaps in your world people are used to saying whatever they believe to be the opportune thing to fit the agenda of the moment. Not in mine.

 

BG

[+ Lucky]

"I'd have expected more of you."

 

More than $86 billion????

Hey, I was just teasing ya, BG. On a day when you and Donnie agree twice, a little teasing can be expected!

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Tip Top

 

Next time, do not give Doug your number.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Omniscience Is Bliss

 

>Perhaps in your world people are used to saying whatever they

>believe to be the opportune thing to fit the agenda of the

>moment. Not in mine.

>

>BG

 

BG,

 

It goes beyond 'saying' to actually 'believing' the opportune thing to fit an agenda IMO. They have a certainty about so much that they cannot know that it crosses the line of zealotry. Sacrificing objectivity to agenda. Sorta reminiscent of the Inquisition attitudes. But then it is a sign of the times, even on the national landscape. All one need do is watch he news. We are a microcosm.

[LovesYng]

I guess the rules are only for some and not for all. Remember he thinks he is the God of Escorts and is allowed to do as he pleases on here x( Maybe the next time he talks we should all kiss his ring.

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[Vincent_Michael]

I had no Idea that my post would cause such a recation and it goes to show how right i was about Mr. Old Benji(BN), Benji you might have steller reviews however please stop telling us that you have a special group of guys when you do not...you will see anyone who will pay you the right amount of $$$.

 

I want everyone to know that I am not saying I have less to lose so I am going to be a compleate ass, I am just not going to let people like Old Benji(BN) promote themselfes as the self apointed gods of the escort indistry...

[Vincent_Michael]

Ncm2169 Thanks for the complament I wish I could have seen you as well but things did not work out and I am sorry...Listen I just am tired of the fact that allot of these escorts promote them selfs as being on (Top of there game) or (One of the Best)...Its a joke and we should all be aware of it.

[Guest Jesse Dane]

> I just am tired of the fact that allot of these

>escorts promote them selfs as being on (Top of there game) or

>(One of the Best)...Its a joke and we should all be aware of

>it.

 

 

One of the first things I learned about advertising myself as an escort is to never make a claim you can't prove. Claiming to be the best or the most talented is never smart.

 

Claim your abilities and your talents. Because those are the only things you can actually follow through on with a client.

 

Being "The Best" is very subjective and a matter of personal opinion. So if you claim that and a client has had better...well, you just lied in your advertising.

 

That's my opinion at least.

[Donnie]

>Being "The Best" is very subjective and a matter of personal

>opinion. So if you claim that and a client has had

>better...well, you just lied in your advertising.

 

Smart boy. Someone oughta tell that to Old Benji who claims on his website to be 21 years old and "one of the top 10 escort/companions in the industry today".

[woodlawn]

If I were you I'd be less concerned about false advertising by this escort and more concerned about the fact that he seems to be claiming to have confidential information about your identity which could only be obtained from the administrator of this site.

[Txpaytoplay]

>I had no Idea that my post would cause such a recation and it

>goes to show how right i was about Mr. Old Benji(BN), Benji

>you might have steller reviews however please stop telling us

>that you have a special group of guys when you do not...you

>will see anyone who will pay you the right amount of $$$.

>

>I want everyone to know that I am not saying I have less to

>lose so I am going to be a compleate ass, I am just not going

>to let people like Old Benji(BN) promote themselfes as the

>self apointed gods of the escort indistry...

 

Vincent,

 

I am quite puzzled....I really thought you had more class than to get involved in this. If BN states he has a special group of guys then what's the big deal? Obviously by the number of posts and people reading the threads he has a following. You did too for that matter. I would like to see where BN described himself seriously as the God of the escort industry. I really don't understand your hostility or perceived jealousy. You have chosen a different path in leaving the business because you found someone special. That is admirable, and great. Why do you want to put down someone who is in the business you left who is trying to make a living. He chooses the market himself in a different way than everyone else...good for him. And before I go any further...let me clarify that I have never had the priveledge of a business visit with BN nor yourself. I have though enjoyed reading both of your posts and insights albeit I think both of you at times go overboard. I am not trying to pick a fight...just expressing my disappointment is what you are doing. And in my opinion, I do think you are making an ass out of yourself.

[twinklover]

"I am not trying to pick a fight...just expressing my disappointment is what you are doing. And in my opinion, I do think you are making an ass out of yourself."

 

But Vincent has always seemed like such a down-to-earth guy to me. A fortiari, some might argue, the same could be said of BN. Some might view him as the biggest and, by threatening to reveal private information, as the nastiest "one" in this thread. And I don't hold any grudges against him. Jesse had it right about the special olympics and internet fights. Poor Jason Carter, he started this thread asking for tips for dealing with harassing phone calls. He's rolling his eyes. The question has become, instead, what tips are there for dealing with threatening or harassing internet posts?

[Txpaytoplay]

You're quite right. Sorry Jason.

[Houston Bonfires]

To quote one of my favorite posters . . .

 

They sure get freaky about that one hooker.

[noviceny]

Json,

 

I will repeat my original offer...fuck the guy up...we are here if ya need a hand (how's that for help :-)

 

 

For all the rest, I must have not read the posts clearly...I missed the part where there are threats, veiled or otherwise

[jasoncarter_dfw]

Thanks for the offer, but the Dallas PD and my wireless carrier handled the situation quite nicely and without incident. Sheesh, apart from genuine suggestions about my situation, there's been more drama in this thread than you'd find at an Amateur Drag Show contest!

 

- Jason Carter - Dallas, TX

- (214) 274-8127

- jasoncarter53@hotmail.com

 

>Json,

>

>I will repeat my original offer...fuck the guy up...we are

>here if ya need a hand (how's that for help :-)

>

>

>For all the rest, I must have not read the posts clearly...I

>missed the part where there are threats, veiled or otherwise