Question: How do I know my escort is STD free just because he says so.

[twinkboylover28]

http://www.gayhealth.com says the incubation or "window period" before genital herpes symptoms will occur after infection is several days to one week, so after 7 days is it a safe bet I wont have genital herpes if there are no symptoms???

 

The CDC guy at 800-342-AIDS told me that the "waiting period" was 3 to 12 weeks , so I now have to wait 3 months to see if I have any symptoms. After 3 months if i continue to have no symptoms then it's a safe bet i didnt get gential herpes. 3 months is a long time to be paranoid.

 

Who is correct? Is it the waiting period 1 week or 3 months? When can I stop being paranoid and relax.

 

I receiving oral sex from an 18 year old mexican, homeless, crack-head druggie street hustler? I am uncircumcised; however, I immediately washed my penis with soap and water and took a shower after the bj.

[jason_jboiCali]

That's amazing. How do you stay hard with two condoms on? God knows I can't do it.

[twinkboylover28]

The "incubation period" for genital herpes is upto 4 weeks.

 

It's always a good idea to do a "check" at 12 weeks.

[marc anthony]

>Who is correct? Is it the waiting period 1 week or 3 months?

>When can I stop being paranoid and relax.

 

When you become celibate?

 

 

>

>I receiving oral sex from an 18 year old mexican, homeless,

>crack-head druggie street hustler?

 

Does the CDC have statistics that suggest that 18 yo homelss crackhead street hustlers are more likely to have the herpes virus in their mouth than any other gay person who might have your dick in their mouth for free or for pay?

[twinkboylover28]

Well isn't it obvious that a PROSTITUTE, who will suck ANYONE's dick from the public in order to get drugs, would be a higher risk then having a Nun suck your dick?

[ErikMcAlister]

It all depends on which dicks the nun sucked before yours, doesn't it? Last I checked, viruses didn't ask for a resume.

[twinkboylover28]

If person A has sucked only 10 dicks in their life, and person B has sucked 1,000 dicks, then I think it's safe to say that person A is LESS risky then person B.

 

Obviously anytime one gets a blow job he puts himself at some level of risk. I'm simply saying you put yourself at a HIGH risk with a prostitute.

[ErikMcAlister]

>If person A has sucked only 10 dicks in their life, and

>person B has sucked 1,000 dicks, then I think it's safe to say

>that person A is LESS risky then person B.

 

1,000 clean dicks versus 1 unclean. You tell me which is the greater risk.

 

>Obviously anytime one gets a blow job he puts himself at some

>level of risk. I'm simply saying you put yourself at a HIGH

>risk with a prostitute.

 

Let's say an escort has sex with 52 (a conservative number) different men in a year. Let's also say that a non-escort who is VERY active has sex with 104 (again, after having lived in Chelsea & then the French Quarter, a conservative number). You're going to try, with a straight face, to say that the escort presents a higher risk than the non-escort, simply because he is an escort?

[marc anthony]

>Well isn't it obvious that a PROSTITUTE, who will suck

>ANYONE's dick from the public in order to get drugs, would be

>a higher risk then having a Nun suck your dick?

 

Yes, but I will bet that you won't have many nuns sucking your dick. We aren't talking about nuns, we are talking about gay people who are willing to suck dick, whether for money or otherwise. Obviously you don't frequent gay bars, clubs, etc where MANY people (not just prostitutes) engage is recreational sex at high frequencies. There was just a thread which talked about sex in the gym... and many people endorsed this as normal behavior.

 

Do you think that genital herpes is rampant in the gay community because most people get them from prostitutes?

 

If you want to continue to believe that you will be safer from getting STD's if you hook up with other gay people who don't do it for money, that is up to you. And if you think that rich gay people with homes won't have herpes... again that is up to you. Herpes is the one STD that discriminates the LEAST, because it is relatively unprotected by condom use.

 

But I don't want your false implication to stand on this board for others to consider.... that it's safe (from the standpoint of getting herpes) to have someone suck your dick so long as they are not homeless, poor, or seeking drugs. Because that is definitely NOT what the CDC would tell you.

[marc anthony]

BTW.... just to clarify...

 

If you were worried about getting scabies, or lice, that would make sense, as the boy was not clean.

 

If you were worried about HIV, that might make sense, as you suspect the boy uses drugs and as such is at higher risk to do unprotected sex.

 

But you are worried about Herpes, whose risk factor is mainly encounter numbers. And if you think that an 18 yo homeless boy who is smelly and unclean has likely sucked more dicks in his life than a 30 something yuppy gym bunny from Chelsea who makes 100K a year....

 

Unfortunately, I think many many people get their STD's from places where they completely don't expect it, and that is why so many people get them.

 

If you absolutely can't have herpes, then don't have your dick sucked, or have a nun suck it. But if you are going to have gay men go at it, don't kid yourself.

[twinkboylover28]

If you re-read my post, please point out where I said "it was SAFE for anyone to suck my dick?"

 

Please don't put words in my mouth.

 

If you take the time to actualy read what I wrote, you would clearly see that I said anytime someone sucks your dick you are taking a risk.

 

Furthermore, in my research on genital herpes, I came across a few websites which CLEARLY stated that ONLY 3% of Nuns have genital herpes, and 80% of prostitutes have gential herpes. That is why I made the point in the first palce.

 

Why would a genital herpes website even contain that information if it were irrelevant?

 

It's a FACT that one has a MUCH HIGHR RISK of contracting herpes from a prostitute than someone who is less sexually active.

 

Peace

[Zippy]

>in my research on genital herpes, I came across a

>few websites which CLEARLY stated that ONLY 3% of Nuns have

>genital herpes, and 80% of prostitutes have gential herpes.

>That is why I made the point in the first palce.

 

OMG! That's fucking hillarious! I would love to see their reseach on this one.

 

>It's a FACT that one has a MUCH HIGHR RISK of contracting

>herpes from a prostitute than someone who is less sexually

>active.

 

I'm sure that the "research" you are referring to was studying female street prostitutes, not gay, male escorts. There really isn't much of a comparison between female street prostitutes working to feed their drug habit or their children to high-charging male escorts who mostly meet upper class, professional, often married men.

 

Of course, I know that there are certainly street boy "escorts", but they aren't often reviewed or discussed on this site. The escorts that are mostly reviewed on this site, and the ones most likely to be seen by guys reading this message center, charge quite a lot for their meetings compared with street prostitutes. Therefore, their clientele is much more likely to have access to regular health care. Even though a high-end male escort may have more sexual encounters than that of the regular Joe gay guy hooking up in bars, saunas, and other gay sex places, the escort is much less likely to run into diseases.

[marc anthony]

>If you re-read my post, please point out where I said "it was

>SAFE for anyone to suck my dick?"

>

>Please don't put words in my mouth.

>

 

 

 

Here is a copy of your EXACT original post:

 

 

"I allowed a drug-addicted, skinny, mexican, homeless, teenage street hustler to perform unprotected oral sex on me! The kid also smelled like he hadnt taken a shower in days.

 

I swear I will never get drunk again cruisng for hustlers. In fact, I wil never cruise for hustlers again atfer this experience. But it's all my fault/responsibility.

 

I also found it weird that he asked to drink a glass of water before he gave me head. ANYWAYZ, IM SO PARANOID NOW THAT IM GOING TO GET GENITAL HERPES THAT IT KINDA PUTS A DOWNER ON MY ENTIRE TRIP.

 

I called the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and they informed me that the waiting period for genital herpes is 30 days. If i dont have signs of genital herpes outbreak in 30 days then its a pretty good likelihood that I didnt get infected.

 

Now I have to analyze my penis closely for the next 30 days. Im never getting drunk again patroling for hustlers. Bad idea! If i make it out of this STD free I will be so happy."

 

I don't think I had to put any words in your mouth. You put them all there yourself.

 

And like I said, you are free to believe what you want.

 

Others on the board should be aware however that the average gay sexual encounter is just as high risk, if not higher, for genital herpes as a young homeless 18 yo boy.

[marc anthony]

>I'm sure that the "research" you are referring to was studying

>female street prostitutes, not gay, male escorts. There

>really isn't much of a comparison between female street

>prostitutes working to feed their drug habit or their children

>to high-charging male escorts who mostly meet upper class,

>professional, often married men.

>

 

I don't think that is the main distinction. The main distinction is that there is no comparison between a nun, and a gay male who is not a prostitute.

 

The risk we are comparing is the risk between a gay male prostitute, and a gay male who is gratuitously sucking another man's dick. If you have evidence that there is a difference in the incidence of genital herpes in these two groups, that would be news to me.

[marc anthony]

>

>Furthermore, in my research on genital herpes, I came across a

>few websites which CLEARLY stated that ONLY 3% of Nuns have

>genital herpes, and 80% of prostitutes have gential herpes.

>That is why I made the point in the first palce.

 

 

Again, I say... you are free to believe what you want. But please don't butcher the scientific method. If you are going to compare two risks, compare the two that matter. The issue here is whether an 18 yo street boy hustler has a higher risk of being actively infective of the herpes virus than another sexually active gay male who is willing to gratuitously suck your dick.

 

>

>It's a FACT that one has a MUCH HIGHR RISK of contracting

>herpes from a prostitute than someone who is less sexually

>active.

>

 

This would be true. My point is, the only relevant issue is the number of sexual enounters, which you maintain is always higher in the prostitute. What evidence do you have that a 30+ gay male with a nice job has had fewer sexual encounters in his lifetime (which is the relevant fact in herpes since the risk is cumulative) than an 18 yo street boy. I would bet huge money that he has not. In fact, I would bet good money that the street boy has had cumulatively many fewer encounters than virtually ALL of the CLIENTS who come to this board, maybe yourself included.

 

Probability is blind to race, economic station, age, and whether someone took a bath or not, and herpes (which is not curable and not preventable by condoms) is purely probability.

[twinkboylover28]

>If person A has sucked only 10 dicks in their life, and

>person B has sucked 1,000 dicks, then I think it's safe to say

>that person A is LESS risky then person B.

>

>Obviously anytime one gets a blow job he puts himself at some

>level of risk. I'm simply saying you put yourself at a HIGH

>risk with a prostitute.

 

The ABOVE was my original quote I was reffering to which immediately preceeded your comments.

 

Anyhow, as you said, everyone is free to beleive what they want. We'll "let the audience decide" as they say; however, if what you're claiming is true, then maybe I shouldn't be so paranoid about catching genital herpes from my encounter.

 

That's all i was trying to gather from generating my posts in the first place.

 

Peace

[+ Lucky]

RE: Question: How do I know my escort

 

"That's all i was trying to gather from generating my posts in the first place"

 

I don't think so.

[twinkboylover28]

RE: Question: How do I know my escort

 

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[+ Italiano]

>

>Anyhow, as you said, everyone is free to beleive what they

>want. We'll "let the audience decide" as they say; however, if

>what you're claiming is true, then maybe I shouldn't be so

>paranoid about catching genital herpes from my encounter.

>

>That's all i was trying to gather from generating my posts in

>the first place.

>

>Peace

 

I think what other posters are trying to tell you is that IF genital herpes (or other STDs) is your concern, you should be worried EVERY TIME someone (a squeeky-clean, rich, yuppie Chelsea boy OR a drug-addicted mexican hustler) sucks yr dick without a condom...

 

Got it?

 

 

[twinkboylover28]

Got it.