Before starting - reality check

[Guest siren_silence]

I am a college guy desperate for money. I am quite set on escorting.

 

1. I am attracted to all kinds of people.

 

2. If i make an effort, I can be a BLINDING WHIRLWIND personality.

 

3. I have very high sex drive.

 

$. as mentioned above, I need money for school.

 

5. I am very confident of my looks.

 

Only catch is, I wear braces. I don't think I can suck people off. Also, even When I suck or get sucked off, condoms are mandatory for me. Am I kidding myself? Is my escorting carrer over even before i begin?

 

Many thanks.

 

SEX SIREN

[marc anthony]

If you don't mind feedback from a client... here goes.

 

The short answer is that no, you are not sunk. But certainly you have put restrictions on your hiring that not all people will tolerate.

 

I have pointed out before that escort hiring is a multi-factorial decision making process. Many factors figure into the equation like physical attraction, personality, price, convenience, and yes... what you are willing to do. Certainly there will be clients who will make a decision to see you based on the fact that you fulfill most or all of their personal requirements. Obviously, the more stipulations you put up, the fewer clients you will satisfy.

 

It appears that you have only one real obstacle, but it is a large one. You need to be honest about this one in your advertising, as many clients have expressed here their belief that oral sex is part of the basic package, and most would prefer it unsheathed. Your restriction is likely as important to clients as not kissing... and though many escorts are very successful even though they will not kiss, it really is important that they make this clear up front.

 

But part of how big an impact this is upon your money making capability depends on which market you are serving, what you will charge, how cute you are, how good your personality really is, and how well you do other parts of the sex package.

 

Probably the only thing you can do is go for it. But again, my most important advice is to be proactive about giving out this information, as it will definitely piss some people off if they are surprised by what you require.

 

Finally, the other XXX alternative you have if you live in a city where this is possible is to strip for money. There, looks and personality (categories which you say you have high marks) are really all you need. And whether or not you can suck someone off or will wear a condom when you are sucked will be moot for the most part.

 

Good luck! And if you are cute as you say, I'll get in line, as I am one of those who can live without the oral part for cute, personable boys who will bottom.

[Candyman]

From another client: Premier in Philadephia had a very cute young escort awhile back that had braces. I can't remember his name right now. He was very popular and his braces didn't seem to matter to anyone. You could also try gettin Invisaline clear braces if your current braces bother you.

 

You sound like a good guy and someone that will be lots of fun to be with. What everyone wants to know is your location and when you plan starting your new career?

[guyinsf]

Would I be interested in hiring you under these conditions? No. Oral sex is mandatory for me and I'm not interested in sucking on a rubber. Blech. I am actually more interested in giving than receiving oral; I can forego someone blowing me but not blowing him.

 

Does that mean that you cannot work as an escort? No. I'm sure there are clients for whom anal sex is more important than oral sex. As long as you fuck and/or get fucked, you'll be able to satisfy those clients if you are good. The fact that you are a "twink" only helps here, I'm sure, as some guys are REALLY into fucking guys who are barely legal.

 

The only way to find out: Try some limited advertising to see how it goes. I would echo the advice to be totally upfront in your ad or in your conversations with prospective clients about your limits.

[guyinsf]

Oh, one last piece of advice:

 

Focus on what you can do for the client and leave your need/desperation for money out of the picture. I suppose there could be some clients who get an added turn-on by knowing that the escort is in a difficult financial situation, but when I encounter an ad that focuses on the escort needing money I get the impression that the escort will provide lackluster service, at best, being much more focused on his needs instead.

[Will]

Yet another client. To some, kissing is more important than a blow job. And while braces might be an impediment to a bj, they aren't an impediment to kissing. I'd agree with the other two who've encouraged you to go ahead and give it a whirl. The more attractive your online ad and the more up-front you are about what you will and won't do, the more success you're likely to enjoy. I'd also post a face picture, just so the clients will know that braces are your only adolescent blemish. In any case, they're temporary.

[Will]

That's GREAT advice. I, and probably a lot of men, wouldn't hire an escort whose ad says that he's desperate for money. Desperate for sex? Yes. But if he's just got his hand out, I'm not going to cross it with silver (or with something else more organic in nature).

[Boston Guy]

Interesting. I've taught at the college level and also worked with so many college kids over the years (in completely non-sexual venues) that I'm a sucker for college kids (pun intended, I guess). So many of the kids I've worked with had so little money that I just naturally fall into a pattern of trying to help.

 

So when a college kid comes on here and says that he's desperate for money, I don't find it negative at all. It just feels like he's being honest and I'd be inclined to contact him if he was in an area that I was visiting.

 

BG

[Boston Guy]

It would seem to me that braces are simply not a problem. They're easy to ignore. However, as others have stated above, insisting on a condom for oral sex will definitely limit the number of guys who want to get together with you.

 

I assume that you want to use condoms because of an interest in safe sex. If so, I applaud you for being careful. In a time when so many young guys seem to be barebacking, insisting on safe sex is refreshing. I also think that each person needs to decide what activities they are comfortable with and where they want to draw the line and we all need to be respectful of our partners' limits.

 

Having said that, the risk involved in receiving oral sex without a condom appears to be quite remarkably low. (Actually, the risk of performing oral sex without a condom also seems to be very low, but it would be higher than just receiving.) You might want to do some research into safe sex and the current understanding of what is safe and what is not before making a final judgment.

 

Either way, I wish you luck. I also hope that you're able to improve your financial situation one way or another.

 

BG

[Rod Hagen]

You'll be fine. Plenty of escorts get hired with even broader restrictions. Escorting is a singular (seminal?) experience. Enjoy the ride, it's an E-ticket.

leandream1@rodhagen.com

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Cause and Effect

 

Everyone is assuming here that you are a normal college age guy; i.e. in your late teens or very early twenties. However, some years back, I went out with a guy who was 32 who had braces. It always amazed me that he could give me such great head and not tear anything. I assume when you say condoms are mandatory for oral sex, that you mean this is the type of oral sex you currently practice. If so, consider how the guys you meet, who are not paying you for your intimate time with them, react or feel when you let them know that oral sex - giving or receiving - requires a condom. That will give you a good sense of what kind of reactions you will receive from gentlemen who are paying you.

 

Will this prevent you from being an escort? Of course not. Will it limit you and the amount of money you might be able to make? Of course.

 

However, this by no means implies or suggests that you should either reconsider this choice you are "quite set on" or to engage in any behavior you are uncomfortable with.

 

In that regard, I can only offer some excellent advise I received from another escort when I first decided on this field: never do anything for money that you are not fully comfortable with. To which I would add: never do anything simply for the money. Being desperate is not a good reason to be an escort. If this financial need is your primary or sole motivation for escorting, I do not believe you will be very happy or that you will benefit in any real way. I also feel strongly that you and anyone else in your situation would experience long term harm.

[VaHawk]

RE: Cause and Effect

 

"Everyone is assuming here that you are a normal college age guy; i.e. in your late teens or very early twenties."

 

Yep, guilty as charged! And it has nothing to do with braces, but only with the text of the message, which shows the poster, if he is INDEED even real, and not some regular stirring up shit, to be young and immature.

 

I'm going to assume that he is real and honest in his query and as such make the following assumptions:

 

. Great to see all the EWS guys lay that first stone in the

construction of another temple

 

. Love how everyone who has replied based their opinions on this

escort being willing to engage in anal intercourse when he won't

even engage in oral intercourse without either he or the client

wearing a condom. Get real, if won't get sucked without wearing

a condom, then the odds are, he ISN'T engaging in any kind of

anal intercourse. We won't even go into kissing, or any other

activity that a client might want from an escort!

 

. Oh GOD! he is young and cute, so just his "mere" presence

dictates that a client should fawn, worship and throw tons of

money at him.

 

. IMO, just another straight, gay for pay, hustling guy out to

take advantage of gay men!

 

. Of COURSE, none of that matters to those who are so blind that

they REFUSE to see!

 

This guy has so many red flags, not the least of which is DESPERATE for money flying over his "little treasure trove of goodies", that if this was any other site, I would GAG at the responses encouraging him in his pursuit of escorting!

[Guest Tomcal_]

RE: Cause and Effect

 

I agree with Hawk, there are red flags all over this!

 

>> If i make an effort, I can be a BLINDING WHIRLWIND personality.<<

On the first "date" with an escort, this means little, what you do for the hour between the sheets is much more important to most guys who are hiring!

 

>> I have very high sex drive.<< Don't we all???!!!

 

>>Only catch is, I wear braces. I don't think I can suck people off. Also, even When I suck or get sucked off, condoms are mandatory for me. Am I kidding myself? Is my escorting carrer over even before i begin?<<

 

this is by no means a scientific survey, but the vast majority of guys I know, do not care to suck on latex, nor expect to wear one to receive...given your limitations, I would venture to guess you will have a very limited clientel.

[Guest siren_silence]

Thank you to all who posted here.

 

Candy man,

 

Thank you for your post. As for my location and start date, I will definitely keep you informed. Things are a little up in the air right now.

 

FrancodiSantisxxx

 

“consider how the guys you meet, who are not paying you for your intimate time with them, react or feel when you let them know that oral sex - giving or receiving - requires a condom. That will give you a good sense of what kind of reactions you will receive from gentlemen who are paying you.”

 

Right now, actually since always, I’ve had little problems with people regarding the issue of condoms in oral sex. The only times when problems arise is when I forget to mentioned beforehand and I bring it up in the throes of passion.

 

Thanks for your advice but I think that the situation is slightly more complex. Right now, people are sleeping with me with no economic shadow hanging over us. I asked my questions because I think somehow when money is involved, expectations are higher. I suppose people would want a perfect experience simply because they are PAYING for an experience. I’m not sure if I would make the cut then. Hence I don’t think my experiences with men right now can quite prepare me for when I go into business. (hope that makes sense) Of course, I’m banking on my other qualities to make it work. But thanks again, yours is a pertinent, clear-headed response……which brings us to

 

VAHAWK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It’s really quite funny, He sounds much more like a “young” (read: immature) college guy than I am.

 

“Get real, if won't get sucked without wearing

a condom, then the odds are, he ISN'T engaging in any kind of

anal intercourse.” Have you got telepathic abilities? Are you an X-men?

 

“IMO, just another straight, gay for pay, hustling guy out to

take advantage of gay men!” I wish (hahahahahaha!), then that would save me so much anguish growing up.

 

“Of COURSE, none of that matters to those who are so blind that

they REFUSE to see!” Sadly ironic, he is accusing of others being blind when he is imposing his presumptuous, reactionary declarations and refusing to allow imagination to flow. To me, he seems very dangerous and I do all I can to avoid this sort of people in my life.

 

Tomcal

“>> If i make an effort, I can be a BLINDING WHIRLWIND personality.<<

On the first "date" with an escort, this means little, what you do for the hour between the sheets is much more important to most guys who are hiring!” My blinding whirlwind personality translates into intensity during sex. DUH!

 

Seriously guys, many thanks for your responses. I pretty much got the answers I am looking for and don’t worry guys I definitely won’t advertise that I’m desperate for money. I’m not that stupid. I added that to let you guys see where I’m coming from.

 

SEXSIREN.

[VaHawk]

>VAHAWK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

>It’s really quite funny, He sounds much more like a

>“young” (read: immature) college guy than I am.

 

No, I'm sure you are a straight, gay for pay, college boy, and I'm damn sure I'm much more mature than you, which is why I can see thru your bullshit.

>

>“Get real, if won't get sucked without wearing

>a condom, then the odds are, he ISN'T engaging in any kind of

>anal intercourse.” Have you got telepathic abilities?

>Are you an X-men?

 

No, just a realist, as your reference to X-men, only reinforces my "presumptions" of your immaturity, youthfulness, and gay for pay bullshit! You are just straight, looking to take advantage of older gay men, with all your bogus "limits", but go right ahead and escort as there are a LOT of gay men who will buy into your TIRED bullshit!

>

>“IMO, just another straight, gay for pay, hustling guy

>out to

>take advantage of gay men!” I wish (hahahahahaha!),

>then that would save me so much anguish growing up.

 

Please continue to grow up, as you are obviously still "growing"! Perhaps I did indeed err, in attributing you as being mature enough to be in college. Maybe, just maybe, you're still in high school!

>

>Sadly ironic, he is accusing of

>others being blind when he is imposing his presumptuous,

>reactionary declarations and refusing to allow imagination to

>flow. To me, he seems very dangerous and I do all I can to

>avoid this sort of people in my life.

 

As I, in return, do all I can to avoid the sort of people you are, in my life. IMO, you are a loser, user, hustler, and a total disgrace to the HB site, and you should be swept up in the dust bin.

 

This is an adults only board, so perhaps you should take your high school schtick to another site! GO ADVERTISE ON AOL! or Craig's List, as you would probably have better luck there.

[SexualAlchemist]

Kungfutze sez:

 

"While it is difficult to assess a first timer, it is very easy to see a regular's ways."

[Will]

No, no: I didn't mean that I think it's inappropriate for him to say on this board that he's desperate for money. On the contrary. I was only saying that an escort who uses his need for money as an item in his self-promotion is wrong-headed. As for college kids, well, I'm the original sugar daddy. However, it's only very, VERY rarely that I find myself wanting to have sex with them. It feels like incest or something, even when I think about what it would be like to hire a twink. YUCK!

[Donnie]

>VAHAWK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

>It’s really quite funny, He sounds much more like a

>“young” (read: immature) college guy than I am.

 

Nah, it's just the Jack Daniels talking.

[VaHawk]

Actually it must be the mixer. That damn Coke will kill you. ;-)

[+ Axiom2001]

Although not an escort myself-- (could have been once upon a time :9 )-- only two escorts who have written previously at this site responded. Personally, I'd be interested to read the responses from more escorts to this guy's query!

 

The preceding comments do not mean that I discounted the ideas written by fellow cybermates or m4mers; I liked what I read, for I would have had difficulty with this "young" man if I had hired him for his services. I abhor having a condom put on my dick when I am being sucked off and vice versa. Deep kissing is very important to me, and yes, if I get fuked-- the man doing it will be sheathed.

[Juan Vancouver]

Hey hot stuff!

Since only two escorts answered you, I will tel you what another escort thinks.

All the advise and feedback given before should be valued by you, even Vahawk's, since it might be a representation of the wide spectrum of clients and situations that you might find yourself in, while escorting. So, my advise is not to ignore then or fight them, but try to understand them and see if you can manage them with ease, peace of mind and a clever business intelligence that will allow you to turn every situation in both pleasurable and profitable.

Now, back to the important question....

Call me an idealist, but I dont think that being cute and needing money desperately are enough to choose a career in escorting.

The best advise my mother ever gave me was never to do something just because I could, but to do it because I wanted to do it so passionately that I would do it for free... That I dreamed about it, that I had planned on doing it for a long time, so whenever I did it, I could be one of the best, simply cause I love it!

Escorting, in the same category as dance, theater, writing and other hard demanding professions, need very specialized people, but over all people who desperately WANT to do it.

You are going to need that desire and yearning whenever you find a "difficult" client, whenever you are in an odd situation. THat deep call, deep desire to do it will allow you to transform all situations and create pleasure out of them.

If you do not have that, you might find that you get tired of it so easily, turning jaded, mean, and dettached from your clients, and believe me, its not a matter of trying hard... a client knows when you have your cock inside him, and your mind in the moon...

Besides, you dont want to live your life trying hard... Isnt life about doing what comes easily for you, using your talent at its fullest? That would be the only way to get repeat clients and thrive in a difficul career where we have LOTS of competition both professionaly and for free.

That deep need to please and make your client feel special is what will make YOU special and grant you a decent level of income

 

About all the rest, believe me, if you are responding to that call, if you want to make them feel special, clients will come to you like bees to honey. No matter what your restrictions are. It might limit your options, sure, but you dont have to do anything that you dont like to do in the first place. This profession is NOT about pretending or faking anything. But enjoying it all....

 

Phheewww..... that was a long one, but I really felt that I had to share this with you. I hope that if you join us, it will be out of conviction, not out of need. And whatever you do, I hope from the bottom of my heart that you will go beyond this times of hardship.

I hope the best of the best for you!:-)

[Rick Munroe]

>I hope that if you join us, it

>will be out of conviction, not out of need.

 

Isn't that what Jim Jones said before passing out the grape Kool-Aid?

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Was it really grape flavored? I never knew that factoid...

 

 

Somewhere right now, Alex Trebek is writing this down and perfecting his snooty pronunciation of 'Jim Jones.'

 

 

Warmest Always,

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[Rick Munroe]

>Was it really grape flavored? I never knew that factoid...

 

Actually, it might not have even been Kool-Aid:

 

"914 died: 638 adults and 276 children. Some sources say 911 died. Most appear to have committed suicide by drinking a grape drink laced with cyanide and a number of sedatives, including liquid Valium, Penegram and chloral hydrate. Some sources say it was Kool-Aid; others say FlaVor-Aid®. Other victims appear to have been murdered by poison injection. The Guyanese coroner said that hundreds of bodies showed needle marks, indicating foul play. Still other victims were shot." (dont'cha love google?)

 

So. Alex had better do some research before he practices his elocution.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

>Isn't that what Jim Jones said before passing out the grape

>Kool-Aid?

 

No, that's an urban legend. What he actually said was, "Am I going to have to break out the Tang, children?" :o