Sensual Masseur or Escorting: Which is More Lucrative???

[+ Lucky]

It annoys me when someone starts the same thread on more than one forum.

[Guest Hole_4_Hire]

I think you're being very kind. It doesn't annoy me it just pisses me off. x(

[Argos]

I am curious to know which profession is more lucrative . . . being a sensual masseur or an escort. It seems to me that the masseurs I have been with have much more business than the escorts (or at least that is what they say. i.e. averaging 4 to 5 clients a day!) Obviously, they charge about 1/2 of what the escorts charge for their time but does the lower charge actually translate into higher dollars because of increased volume??? Or is it probably stretching to say that a masseur averages 4 to 5 clients a day 7 days a week.

[Flower]

RE: Sensual Masseur or Escorting: Which is More Lucrat...

 

Well, its such a stupid post it doesn't deserve either forum, so I'm pissed off and annoyed! x(

[Rod Hagen]

RE: Sensual Masseur or Escorting: Which is More Lucrat...

 

> Well, its such a stupid post it

>doesn't deserve either forum, so I'm pissed off and annoyed!

 

Even I think you're being mean Flower. It's not a stupid post. Granted it didn't need to be asked twice, but it's a very good question, and I don't think the answer is obvious. Currently, I'm only working about 2-4x week, and no longer doing overnights, so I'd be curious to hear if masseurs, erotic or otherwise, are doing better.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

>Obviously, they charge about 1/2 of what

>the escorts charge for their time but does the lower charge

>actually translate into higher dollars because of increased

>volume???

 

Maybe in some cases, but another thing that really drives escorts' earning power upwards compared to masseurs is the demand for longer appointments -- evening dates, overnights, etc. I would think that generally the longest someone would hire a masseur for would be a couple hours (that's total speculation on my part -- anybody here know if it's true?), so the only way to make more money is to take more appointments.

 

Similarly, I would guess that there is less of an incentive for masseurs to travel, since they'd really have to spend just about the whole trip locked up in their hotel rooms working to make it lucrative the way a similar trip can be for escorts. My hunch is also that masseurs (especially "legitimate" ones) have more very regular clients (whom they once or more a week) and benefit less from the "new boy in town" phenomenon than escorts. But that's just a hunch and I have no idea if it's true. It just seems like I notice more traveling escorts than I do traveling masseurs, though I'm sure there are some of the latter who make it work really well.

 

On the other hand, erotic masseurs may be better positioned to weather the vagaries of the economic cycle. Sure, they probably see some drop off in their clientele, but they might also be picking up some business from clients who have been struggling to pay the escort-tier rates and are willing to settle for a few more limits in the action to bring the price down. (Besides, masseurs, apparently, vary widely with regard to how porous their limits are, so there's always that chance...but it's a crapshoot.)

[Guest fukamarine]

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> Well, its such a stupid post it

>doesn't deserve either forum, so I'm pissed off and annoyed!

>x(

 

My, my, my........... and don't we have our panties in a twist today!

 

As for stupid - have you reviewed some of your past posts lately?

 

fukamarine

[+ Lucky]

RE: Sensual Masseur or Escorting: Which is More Lucrat...

 

"As for stupid - have you reviewed some of your past posts lately?"

Why should he, you don't!

[Flower]

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Fine! Just fine! ....be that way :7

 

Well, OK, so maybe you guys are right--I was being a little bitchy }( --however, the answer seems SO SUBJECTIVE that there just seems little value in the question. And here is my thinking as to why:

 

1. It's like asking; "who will earn more -- the man at Mac Donald's at $6.50 hour or the man driving equipment at $26 hour. Well, it's seems simple enough if they both work the same number of hours, but of course we know that is not necessarily so.

Just as two escorts charging the same rate will have vastly different yearly incomes--I mean it's not rocket science

 

2. And further, do you really think some escort is going to reliably post saying "I make $150K yr. escorting and then have a Sensual Masseur write in saying I make $85k as a Sensual Masseur? Would they even want to tell you? And even if they did, would it be reliable and really answer your question? And would you know if they both worked the same hours. In the end, would the poster have any better idea as to the answer to his question than when he started--to me it seemed like an exercise in futility. But I've been wrong once already this year, so who knows.

 

Now as it turned out, Retredescrt offered an opinion in the duplicated post in the Lounge that offered his experience when compared to he and his husband, but that was sort of a long shot in getting that kinda comparison and even then, nothing about who works the most hours, work habits, etc., but still as close as you'll probably come, and his response was sorta what everyone thought anyway. Bottom line -- it still seems too subjective to quantify here.

 

And Lucky, it's true, I don't originate threads for many reasons, but I do chime in with an unpopular opinion now and then, but I say what I think IF I think it's an important issue or one that interests me, but seldom throw in one-liners as I did here -- just the way I do things. :+

[Guest fukamarine]

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>"As for stupid - have you reviewed some of your past posts

>lately?"

>Why should he, you don't!

>

 

Lucky - That's what I LOVE about you. You are so fucking predictable!

 

You never miss an opportunity, do you? Yet you bitch at me at every chance, never realizing that you do exactly what you are accusing me of doing. You are one convoluted puppy!

 

It's so comforting to know this board is watched over by someone who truly thinks he walks on water - which by the way, must be very hard to do with all those holes in your feet.

 

fukamarine

[Bilbo]

Devon, That would seem to make sense, but it's not the case, at least not here in the hinterlands of Houston. Even when I was very hung up on how I had spent a lot of time and money training to be a masseur and was not going to have gone to all of that trouble just to wind up a less paid version of what I already was and did only donut massages (leaving out the middle, like a donut hole), even then when I was doing absolutely legitimate therapeutic-only massages, and even when I was told by many of my clients that I was one of the best in the city, I didn't have the regular clientel that your thinking of here. My most regular clients, even now, see me about once every two weeks, not twice a week. And many people feel that you are their regular masseur if they get a massage from you every several months. Heck, I was even introduced to someone in a bar by a guy who called me his regular masseur even though I really didn't remember the guy and knew for a fact (because I was ballsy enough to ask) that he hadn't been to see me in a couple of years. Also, the percentage of newbies to regulars was roughly the same as it has been for me in escorting (and several other local masseurs have told me the same thing). About 80 - 20. Most people tend to think of masseurs as reactive and not as proactive CAM. They get a massage only after some body part, usually their back, has gotten bad and don't get one again until it gets bad again. I think that an independent masseur (in this city at least) who is very actively advertising and has at least the beginning of a following can only count on 5 - 10 massages per week, usually on the low end of that. Course, I could be wrong.

[Guest RetrdEscrt]

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As i said in the duplicated post my hubby who has been a masseur for about 6 years and works maybe 20-25 hours a week on average,granted he only works maybe 39 weeks a year but only charges $95 per hour which is the big divide regarding the earning power between masseurs and escorts,how many escorts even newbies would charge that-0 !!

 

Also he does all 'out' calls he visits clients at their homes/offices etc so can spend another 3+ hours plus a day travelling within the Greater L.A area so gas/car costs also have to be included,now he has built up a regular clientele and is also branching out into reiki as well as the usual massage stuff.Last year was his best year so far but as i said before he made maybe one quarter what i did without the travelling/overnights/weekends etc that i did.He works every day 5 days per week usually,I worked maybe 2 times a week on average.

 

The funny thing is that only about 20% of his clients are gay most of them at one point or another have asked him about going 'further'than a massage one offered him $200 extra to let the client suck his dick which he refused(awww aint he the best ! ).I have said more than once he should get into the escorting side but he's not that keen.Though i dont know what the market would be for a big Blatino muscle guy, it seems the popular California 'type' is more 'me' the blond hair/blue eyed guy.

[Rod Hagen]

RE: Sensual Masseur or Escorting: Which is More Lucrat...

 

Uhm, his best was 25% of your usual. So if he's making $100/hour 20 hrs a week for 40 weeks, that's $80k. You believe that as an escort you were making 4x 80K, $320K? Working 50 Weeks/year that would mean that you were averaging 6.25k/week which translates to 30 hours of clients a week, 6 hours each day M-F, or at least 6 overnights a week, or a similarily hard core combination of the two. Holy shit. what have I been doing wrong? :-) (I'm sure many of you have a list).

 

-Hagen

[Guest Dan]

RE: Sensual Masseur or Escorting: Which is More Lucrat...

 

>Uhm, his best was 25% of your usual. So if he's making

>$100/hour 20 hrs a week for 40 weeks, that's $80k. You

>believe that as an escort you were making 4x 80K, $320K?

>Working 50 Weeks/year that would mean that you were averaging

>6.25k/week which translates to 30 hours of clients a week, 6

>hours each day M-F, or at least 6 overnights a week, or a

>similarily hard core combination of the two. Holy shit. what

>have I been doing wrong? :-) (I'm sure many of you have a

>list).

>

>-Hagen

No shit, Rod. Apparently you and me both!

 

 

Dan Dare

http://meetlocalmen.com/mlm/dandarela.html