EVERYONE OVER 35 and NEW to Gay sex CJ's public service message

[Guest CJ]

Hi Guys

 

I have been in this business for 3 years now and I have found that many "newcomers" to the gay sex scene are unfamiliar with the dangers of Hep B.and C

 

HEP B is COMPLETELY PREVENTABLE and you should know that the chance of contracting HIV from a needle stick is .05% and HEP B is 6-30%...

HIV is thought to start to die when exposed to air.

 

HEP B will live outside the body(and remain infectious) in wet,dark,and warm enviornments for DAYS !!!!

 

I understand that immunization costs. I feel it is far better to get immunized than contract a preventable disease...I hope that someday we will have this option for HIV and HEP C but until then please look after yourselves and get immunized.

 

AND like the shopping channel show ...if you get immunized against HEP B it is thought that you cannot contract HEP D (delta virus)

 

NO PREACHING HERE just genuine concern for your safety of newcomers. I am immunized

 

later<smile>

 

CJ

 

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[Guest bighugbearphx]

Hep B vaccination

 

I agree that any gay man who is sexually active should consider being vaccinated for Hep B. And be aware that it is more likely to be a successful immunization when done when you are young. (In many states, school children receive these vaccinations these days.)

 

I found this out when I had a one year relationship with a young man from Taiwan. He was attending a university here in the US, and - in donating blood on campus - found out he had the Hep B antibody, meaning he had been exposed (and could be a carrier, though not likely as he had not been sick, and this was later found to NOT be the case.)

 

My physician had me - at age 49 - get the series of three Hep B shots, and followed up with blood tests to see if I developed the protective antibody. The first round of shots did not take, and I went through a second set (The drug company provided vaccine for a second round at no additional cost.) The antibody was still not detectable after the second set, and we found out that this is the case in about 1/3 of men over age 40, while it works about 99% of the time for younger men.

 

I discussed this at length with a friend who was a physician in NYC during the early trials of the Hep B vaccine, and became a nationally-known specialist on the disease. As was explained to me, it is possible I do have immunity (despite no detection of the immune response antibody), and there would be no point to getting a third series of shots. It is also possible that an immunity (and non-response to the vaccine) could have resulted from a misdiagnosis of a bad case of "mono" I had while I was in my 20's, which had all of the classic symptoms of a mild case of Hep B, but which doctors didn't look for as much back then. A blood test now confirms I am not carrying the virus either, nor any detectable level of either Hep B antibody. I've recently read that another drug company is working on a more reliable Hep B vaccine, but this could be years away. The one that is available now is fine for most people, and even better if you are no older than your 30's when you receive the vaccine.

[Guest CJ]

RE: Hep B vaccination

 

Thanks for you comments they are great...H

 

However over 30 you will still develop immunity.

 

Some people will not develop immunity because of unknown reasons.

 

You can find additional info at smithkline beecham and their new vaccine for hep a and b is Havrix 770/1440...

 

Your antibody titre level should be taken before hand to see if you have been exposed and developed natural immunity without contracting acute hep

 

3% develop acute hep and die, some develop self limiting hep which means they are not infectious but have had the virus, and others develop hep b,are infectious and have a 400 times greater chance of developing primary liver cancer.

 

for additional info and the benefits and risks of immunization please see you physicain <thats the other side of me..a lawyer>

 

later<smile>

 

CJ

[Guest JH]

Havrix??

 

I understood that Havrix was only for hep A and that Twinrix is the combined hep A and B vaccine. I couldn't find anything on the Glaxo Smith Kline website to the contrary. Are you sure about your information?

 

I agree wholeheartedly with your public health message for immunisation against hep A and B (previously championed by Matt_Vancouver) and also for the need for a confirmation antibody test.

[Matt_Vancouver]

aw you remembered

 

this conversation has been brought up on several occasions, along with other threads about Sexually Transmitted Deseases.

I realize this site isn't a public service announcment, and therefore a section devoted to answering these questions, is a lot to ask, but how about a link somewhere easy to find, that directs users to a website with all of the appropriate information?? Just a thought.

It would appear that we Canadians are more informed about the dangers of Hepatitis, than most. (I think CJ is Canadian) I wonder why that is? Any thoughts??

Matt(proud of my less than perfect(read: hugely flawed) socialized medical system, even if it means waiting 6 months to see a specialist *@#&*!! |: )

[Rick Munroe]

from the archives...

 

Here's a blast-from-the-past, if you like your threads nasty & argumentative yet informative & scientific. (For the record, I'm immunized & I never eat ass.)

 

http://www.male4malescorts.com/cgi-local/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=2101&forum=DCForumID5

[+ nycman]

RE: from the archives...

 

I will save you all hours of reading and direct you to the only

salient post in the thread Mr. Munroe pointed out:

 

>RE: Rimming - is it safe?

 

>Only if done with magenta or burnt umber lip stick.

>Anything else and you're a goner.

>Later.

 

Written by Traveller.

 

I laughed so hard I cried...thanks for the blast from the past Rick.

[Guest CJ]

You are correct the Combination drug is called Twinrix

 

You are absolutely correct the combination drug is Twinrix....

 

Bottom line <no pun intended> go see your doc and get immunized...this is a totally preventable disease and it would be foolish not to get it...

 

later <smile>

 

CJ

 

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