Do Hustler Bars even exist anymore?

[thedanNYC]

1 hour ago, Danny-Darko said:

Anybody care to tell why are there women in a lot of The Townhouse pictures (and I don't mean the entertainment singers & piano players), if it's a "Gentlemen's Club"?  

Other than maybe when it's explicitly about sex (e.g., at a bathhouse), have you ever been to a gay party/club where women weren't present? I haven't. I'm not sure how old you are, but maybe there's a generational difference here.

 

A lot of women feel like either they're one of the boys when it comes to the gays, or that a gay is one of the girls. So they're more than happy to go to gay venues, party, and look at and grope boys without dealing with getting hit on and without their ladylike self-image taking a hit because, you know, they're just out with the girls groping girls (non-straight guys). And it's all in good fun for them.

 

That, and gays sometimes bring women as a security blanket.

[Danny-Darko]

22 minutes ago, thedanNYC said:

Other than maybe when it's explicitly about sex (e.g., at a bathhouse), have you ever been to a gay party/club where women weren't present? I haven't. I'm not sure how old you are, but maybe there's a generational difference here.

 

A lot of women feel like either they're one of the boys when it comes to the gays, or that a gay is one of the girls. So they're more than happy to go to gay venues, party, and look at and grope boys without dealing with getting hit on and without their ladylike self-image taking a hit because, you know, they're just out with the girls groping girls (non-straight guys). And it's all in good fun for them.

 

That, and gays sometimes bring women as a security blanket.

I was under the impression The Townhouse was a "Gentlemen's Club" and had escorts among the cliental. That is not what I'd call a neighborhood gay bar that caters to the LGBT community. 

And since you asked I'm 61. So yes I've seen plenty of establishments the world over that only cater to men and other only to women (some lesbians hate men or simply want a space for themselves) and others yet only to Trans/Cross Dresses and the "Straight"/Bi men that pursue them. (They don't like it when gays or women enter because it scares the already nervous "straight" guys away, nor do they like competition). 

I don't know how young you are or how much you've traveled but yes in my days these were not uncommon! Yes your average bar would welcome females, I even saw them in Gay Male Strip Bars, and Gay Porn Theaters like "Nob Hill" and "Campus Theater" in San Francisco and in some in Vancouver Canada! I was surprised and it was awkward but yes there they were in a sexual venue and allowed in, no problems. Again, this The Townhouse club struck as a different kind of establishment. Obviously I'm wrong. 

[Rod Hagen]

6 hours ago, thedanNYC said:

Other than maybe when it's explicitly about sex (e.g., at a bathhouse), have you ever been to a gay party/club where women weren't present? I haven't. I'm not sure how old you are, but maybe there's a generational difference here.

 

This really is a generational thing :-)   20 years ago the West Hollywood Athletic Club went bankrupt and closed, the gym had no female members.  It was wonderful for many reasons.

I can remember in my Gay infancy in the late 90s large complaints about how women were infiltrating gay bars, specifically The Gay '90s in Minneapolis,  but presumably elsewhere, with their friends to fawn over the hot male strippers.

Someone very close to me who is in his 80s now looks back at his gay life and the gay events and organizations he belonged to and has ruled that, generally, women move in and ruin things.

So, it's both a different history and, in the case of people like my friend, a different attitude based, reasonably or not, on individual, non-millenial and non-zillenial, therefore ancient, experiences.

[thedanNYC]

26 minutes ago, Rod Hagen said:

This really is a generational thing 🙂  20 years ago the West Hollywood Athletic Club went bankrupt and closed, the gym had no female members.  It was wonderful for many reasons.

I can remember in my Gay infancy in the late 90s large complaints about how women were infiltrating gay bars, specifically The Gay '90s in Minneapolis,  but presumably elsewhere, with their friends to fawn over the hot male strippers.

Someone very close to me who is in his 80s now looks back at his gay life and the gay events and organizations he belonged to and has ruled that, generally, women move in and ruin things.

So, it's both a different history and, in the case of people like my friend, a different attitude based, reasonably or not, on individual, non-millenial and non-zillenial, therefore ancient, experiences.

I kinda wish I'd gotten to experience that more "boys only" vibe of some years ago. Getting manhandled by women in ways that would have them kicking and screaming if a straight man did it to them gets old really fast.