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On 8/18/2021 at 7:06 AM, Erick the Origin said:

I don’t know if it’s feasible in the US but I would love scenes like that to include some “real” Dad/Son verbalization. I mean FamilyDick sometimes goes right up to the line, but can we get overt?

I just discovered this forum thread.
I am totally with you on this. I recall porn in the 70’s and 80’s that did not hold back - both gay and straight porn. There was no end to the real “Dad/son” verbalization between performers in gay porn. When did that change? And why? I’ll admit that it will be considered “perverted”, but it’s porn - it’s fantasy. 

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