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No, I haven't (knowingly) been in a situation like yours, but really does it matter?? There are thousands and thousands of stories where someone young (and 19 qualifies) has done something very stupid, been caught, served their time and never fallen afoul of the law again. There are also thousands and thousands of instances where someone young has offended and gone on to exhibit criminal behaviour all his/her life. The problem is that all of those stories and instances are true and neither you (nor anyone else on this board) knows which category your escort may fall under.

 

From what I can tell, your gut instinct is that you like this guy, enjoy his company and want to go on using his services, but this revelation about his criminal past has you questioning your judgment and that's only natural. But of all of us, you're the person who (likely) knows this guy best, so all our experiences/instincts/beliefs about law-and-order don't really amount to much. Before you decide whether to keep seeing this escort, there are two things I'd recommend you consider.

 

The first is what's your record as a judge of character? If I'm right and your gut's told you that you like this guy- ask yourself has your gut frequently let you down in the past? And I'm not just talking romantically, but what's your track record with friendships and business relationships, etc? Have you often found yourself in the position when a friend/co-worker/etc. has knowingly let you down or not lived up to your trust? If the answer's 'yes' (and be honest with yourself) then recognize that maybe your 'gut' instincts aren't all that good and maybe you should be ignoring them in this case rather than continue to see this guy and be disappointed again.

 

The other question you need to consider is are you in a position where the revelation of association with a felon could seriously compromise your personal/financial/community standing? Again if the answer is yes, you might want to consider that very carefully before seeing him again.

 

That's my advice (for what it's worth) ;) Think about this carefully, remember there are other good escorts out there and good luck!

 

Alan

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I would add a couple of questions (to ask yourself) to Alan's very thoughtful post: how old is he now? how long have you known him? do you have a comfortable relationship not centered exclusively around hiring and sex? do you share feelings/opinions/facts about other parts of your lives? These are important in any case if you're considering taking a trip with him, and may give you some clues about how to proceed. Here's another obvious one: could you discuss this with him directly?

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>TRUST ME..."THEY KNOW THEIR OWN KIND." A 19 Yr old

>would recognize a 13 yr old as that much younger. He KNEW

>what he was doing. The length of the sentence indicates it.

>Since he was just pass teens a judge would have let him off

>with a "slap on the wrists"...IF it was concensual.

>However, the charge indicated that it was RAPE in the eyes of

>the law and the victim. He is almost definitely a TRUE

>pedophile with most likely sociopathic tendencies. To RAPE a

>child shows total lack of conscience and moral core.

>Sociopaths are KNOWN for their charm but make NO MISTAKE they

>are DANGEROUS!!! IF they do not get thier way they STRIKE

>OUT!!! The victim HAD TO have been actively involved in the

>case against him to get that lengthy a sentence. R.Kelly is

>an example. They had no victim's charge in THAT case...so

>R.Kelly walked. Your escort's computer activity might even be

>monitored by the feds. They MIGHT even be monitoring his

>contacts. NEVER allow him access to YOUR COMPUTER. During

>the "CANDYMAN" sting, one man was arrested for child

>porn because his room mate downloaded it (without his

>knowledge) on his laptop while he was working. BEWARE!!!! BE

>VERY CAREFUL!!!

 

There is a certain truth to what you say, and I certainly don't condone a 13 year-old having sex with a 19 year-old, even though they're both teens. Nevertheless, statutory rape is not quite in the same league from a sociopathic standpoint as putting a knife to a woman's throat and tying her up for forcible rape. I would agree to be careful with this person, and the warnings about the laptop are well taken. Out of curiosity, though, I looked up ages of consent on wikipedia, and there are a number of places on the planet where sex with a 13 year-old is legal.

Again, I'm not suggesting I agree it's OK for a 19 year-old to have sex with a 13 year-old, but some 19 year-olds are very immature and have poor judgment. Assuming the sex was consensual, I wouldn't put this guy in the same category as the Hillside Strangler. The guy made a major mistake just as he entered adulthood, and now he's probably going to have a difficult time functioning in society perhaps for the rest of his life.

While I can't imagine having sex with an 8th grader when I was 19, this happens a lot, rarely reaches legal attention, and is, in fact, legal in some places. Yet I do agree with the above poster that the original poster should be careful in his association with the escort. Of course, what if you go on vacation with an escort and he carries drugs without your knowledge? One always has to be careful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Age_of_Consent.png

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With a felony record, he will have trouble traveling, even with a passport. Canada for instance will not allow anyone with a DUI conviction, not even a felony. Britain recently excluded Martha Stewart for her perjury conviction. And when he returns to the US be prepared for a thorough inspection of baggage for contraband.

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>Generally, just because a person was convicted of a crime,

>does not mean he cannot get a passport. Basically, if he has

>any outstanding warrants, or child support owed over $5,000, a

>person will be on this list -- a list that precludes a US

>national from leaving the US territory. Also, any law

>enforcement can request that a person be placed on this list

>if he does not want the person in question to get a passport,

>e.g. the likelihood that the person in question would flee to

>avoid prosecution, etc.

>

>

>So basically, if you say, you will pay for his passport

>expenses and you feel comfortable with him and want him to be

>with you on a trip-- What could I say? Except go get the

>passport and BON VOYAGE!

>

>

>P.S.

>

>If I was reading your posting right, your main concern was not

>the escort's character or past conviction; but the supposed

>block or the perceived inability and problems to obtain a

>passport!

>

 

Actually that was not really the gist of my concern. As already pointed out being a convicted felon makes it difficult to travel. Based on the nature of his crime I would not be comfortable traveling with him in any case.

 

I do appreciate your comments though.

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>I believe a convicted felon, who is not on parole or any

>limiting situations can get a US passport. There is no

>question on the application form about arrests or convictions,

>and no law that limits the foreign travel of a convicted

>felon, unless it has been so ordered by a court.

>

 

Well, getting a passport is only part of the problem. Having the other country let you in is another matter. A prior discussion on this message center revealed that, for example, Canada won't even let Americans in if they've had so much as an old DUI conviction. I can imagine that sex crimes would be an even greater barrier (maybe some of the escorts on this board can enlighten us). I don't know if other country check criminal records of people coming in.

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The Impact of A Criminal Conviction on Foreign Travel

 

Well, getting a passport is only part of the problem. Having the other country let you in is another matter. A prior discussion on this message center revealed that, for example, Canada won't even let Americans in if they've had so much as an old DUI conviction. I can imagine that sex crimes would be an even greater barrier (maybe some of the escorts on this board can enlighten us). I don't know if other country check criminal records of people coming in.

 

This is the crux of the matter and likely the reason why your escort felt it was useless to get a passport and risk trying to travel. Canada and the US are open about the fact that they have full access to each other's criminal records at immigration checkpoints and that a criminal conviction for absolutely anything is grounds for refusal to grant entry to either country. Furthermore, visa applications and immigration officials of other nations around the world routinely ask travellers if they have a criminal conviction. It is unclear to the traveller what information the immigration officials of other nations have at their disposal and lying about your criminal record or anything else is in itself grounds to deny entry. The bottom line is that having any kind of criminal conviction, but particularly one for a felony, can substantially limit your ability to travel abroad.

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Two things:

As mentioned, prison time of any duration is a heightened risk of

HIV infection. Also, felony convictions can be expunged, especially

after a release for good time and unblemished parole. This takes

time and effort but once accomplished the person can legitimately

answer "none" to any questions about criminal record.

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twinkboylover, gosh what a mess he was. And to read him complaining about NAMBLA given his own tastes, well, that's one reason he was such a hoot.

Anyway, he hasn't posted for such a long time I wouldn't be surprised if he was in the slammer.

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An escort I knew and saw regularly about 10 years ago told me that he had served time while still a teenager for manslaughter -- apparently he stabbed a guy during some sort of drug transaction.

 

I've always wondered why he felt he needed to give me this information...and, yes, he was the one who brought up the subject of his past. The guy was stunningly handsome, and did porn for several big studios. He was my guest in my home several times, and for some reason I never felt that my own safety was ever at risk. Naivete? ...perhaps.

 

I've lost contact with him, and I wonder occasionally how he's doing.

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