escorts offering to bareback

[Bart]

Thanks Greg for the comments regarding condom falling off. Some escorts do not like the nice tight fitted condoms. It inhibits activity. Some addtional lube would help keep things moving along and not stick. I am quite certain the gentlemen involved were good thickness and length.

 

It just would have been nice for the escort to say something. It is a bit disconcerning getting home later after a very active fuck and to some post clean up and realize there something else coming along.

[seaboy4hire]

Might I suggest for those of you working and hiring if you're on the thick side of the pole a female condome works great and is much more durable then regular condomes imho. Using the female condome feels like there is no barrier at all and feels great imho for the top.

 

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[seaboy4hire]

Might I suggest for those of you working and hiring if you're on the thick side of the pole a female condome works great and is much more durable then regular condomes imho. Using the female condome feels like there is no barrier at all and feels great imho for the top.

 

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[Guest Merlin]

Potatohead, go back and read my post. I said, the only to make sex safer is to assume all are infected. And, it is safer yet if you avoid sex with those you know or suspect are infected. I did not, as you suggest, say that you should guess who is not infected and then have unprotected sex with him. Of course, you are correct, there is not way to tell. But some times you do know. If he tells you, for instance. Or if he offers to bareback. It is simple logic that sex is safer if you avoid sex with those whom you know or believe to be infected. Accidents happen.

[+ glutes]

TBLover, 'got tested?'

 

>>IMO anyone thats willing to have bareback sex already

>has

>>aids. even if they use condoms with you who's to say they

>>don't bareback in their personally life.. you should

>assume

>>everyone has aids and use a condom..

>

>

>I agree 110%

 

"What's that smell?"

Fri Jun-09-06 08:05 AM by twinkboylover28

 

 

Has this ever happened to you?

 

I made plans to meet this "married" twink escort who claims to be in an "open relationship". I met him from gay.com where both he and his BF advertise in the chat room that they do tricks.

 

Last night was my 2nd time with this escort/hustler.

 

I was stunned that he just let me fuck him raw without a condom the first time I met him back in December.

 

Anyways, as I said, last night was my second time meeting him.

 

We agreed to meet at his apartment at 3am; however, when I got there he stated his bf had "returned home" and I would have to either get a hotel or "do it in my car".

 

I opted for my car since I didnt want to spend an extra $50 for the room.

 

I was fucking this twink "porn star" escort for about a minute when he had an "accident" and released his bowels on my dick and shirt.

 

My dick did not have a condom on it.

 

Needless to say the smell grossed me out and I had to immediately end the session.

 

I didn't know how I should react to this situation. I rarely have sex and I didn't know if this was normal for anal sex or if I should be pissed off.

 

I tried not to freak out and I acted like everything was alright. I was trying to act like a gentleman.

 

He acted like nothing was going on and everything was normal. He gave me his underwear to wipe his shit off of my dick.

 

I still payed him $100 for what turned out to be 15 minutes of driving around to find a spot and 20 minutes of actual "making out".

 

Not to mention the fact that I drove 1 hour each way just to meet him. With recent gas prices that can be expensive.

 

Anyways, 10-15 minutes after the "accident" I had a chance to wash my cock in soap and water at a gas station. My clothes was covered in shit and smelled.

 

This experience has certainly shattered my enjoyment of gay sex.

 

I had stool all over my tool.

 

I'm now freaking out that I will get herpes or some nasty STD.

 

I don't know if I will ever be able to eat ass or enjoy anal sex the same way ever again.

[CT Dick]

RE: TBLover, 'got tested?'

 

>I was stunned that he just let me fuck him raw without a

>condom the first time I met him back in December.

>

>Anyways, as I said, last night was my second time meeting

>him....

 

>I'm now freaking out that I will get herpes or some nasty STD.

 

NOW you're worried? What were you thinking the first time you fucked him without a condom? How do you think str8 men get AIDS?

 

Dick

[Guest josephga]

RE: TBLover, 'got tested?'

 

I see that statement a number of times in post cant believe he let me fuck him raw. the question should be why would you want too. i see guys on line posting looking for married only for bb. these idiots think they will only get aids from openly gay men and not other married guys..

[Guest PotatoHead]

>Potatohead, go back and read my post. I said, the only to

>make sex safer is to assume all are infected. And, it is safer

>yet if you avoid sex with those you know or suspect are

>infected. I did not, as you suggest, say that you should guess

>who is not infected and then have unprotected sex with him. Of

>course, you are correct, there is not way to tell. But some

>times you do know. If he tells you, for instance. Or if he

>offers to bareback. It is simple logic that sex is safer if

>you avoid sex with those whom you know or believe to be

>infected. Accidents happen.

 

Again, I'm not trying to flame, but, I have to respond.

 

I don't see how sex can be "safer still" by not having sex with people who you know are infected. If your partner is HIV+, it doesn't matter whether you know or whether you don't know - they are still positive. As a matter of fact, in my opinion, if you KNOW your partner is HIV+, you will be more cognizant of what you're doing and more focused on safety than if you THINK they're HIV- when they're actually positive.

 

I'm sorry, but I don't see how it's simple logic that sex is safer with somebody who tells you that they are HIV- even though you have no factual knowledge of this than with somebody who flat out tells you that they are HIV+.

 

I promise you that there are hundreds and hundreds of guys out there who are HIV+ and know that they are HIV+ yet tell people they are not. Is it, in some way, safer to have sex with them than to have sex with the guy who admits to his status?

 

And, for the record, I didn't "suggest" that you said you should have unprotected sex with anybody. Clearly you didn't.

[Guest]

>According to the American CDC bareback topping is not as

>dangerous as bareback bottoming, it is closer in risk level to

>that of giving a good bj. This explains why there are plenty

>of men (including some escorts) who are willing to bareback

>top but who don't bareback bottom and who remain HIV-ngeative.

> "Safe sex" for many of these guys means "I

>never get fucekd" or "I never get fucked raw."

>

>The "estimated per-act risk for acquisition of HIV, by

>exposure route"...the risk per 10,000 exposures to an

>infected source:

>

>Blood transfusion 9,000

>Needle sharing injection-drug use 67

>Receptive anal intercourse 50

>Receptive penile-vaginal intercourse 10

>Insertive anal intercourse 5

>Receptive oral intercourse 1

>Insertive oral intercourse 0.5

>

>

>These CDC stats are easily checked out:

>http://depts.washington.edu/hivaids/post/case5/fig1d.html

>http://depts.washington.edu/hivaids/post/case5/discussion.html

>

Just a little comment. These data are a bit misleading in that they lump all HIV positive people together. Someone who's either acutely infected (i.e. recent infection), or who's in the last stages of AIDS is much more contagious than this. Someone who's well-controlled, with a viral load of zero is less contagious (although an undetectable viral load doesn't mean the person doesn't carry the virus within his white blood cells). Of course, on average these numbers are correct, and the average client has no way of knowing what the escort's stage of disease is. But I think people need to be aware that a blissfully unaware idiot who barebacks without care may be recently infected or uncontrolled due to an excessive amount of denial. He is likely much more contagious than, say, our friend from Seattle, who, probably, is taking good care of his disease (not that I know this for a fact).

[twinkboylover28]

>

>I promise you that there are hundreds and hundreds of guys out

>there who are HIV+ and know that they are HIV+ yet tell people

>they are not.

 

 

Isn't that like borderline manslaughter? I mean that's really sick if you think about it. How can someone who KNOWS for a 100% fact that they are HIV+ actually consciously tell another person (ie- sex partner) to their face that they are HIV- ? How can they have such blatant disregard for the other persons health?

 

I'm glad I can say I havent had bareback sex in years, and that I tested HIV- and STD-free in April 2008.

 

Back to the stats, has it ever been scientificaly proven that anyone can get HIV from receiving a blow job?

 

I was told that it has only been recorded once and the circumstances were sketchy. Furthermore, giving a blow job has got to be very low o nthe scale of getting HIV.

 

(*awaits people to bash my question instead of actually ANSWER it*)

[Guest josephga]

twinkboy its a scary thought but theres people that will lie about aids. when i lived in Athens GA i knew this guy he and his bf had been together 20 years when his partner cheated and became poz. he broke up with the guy.. this guy was so bitter about becoming hiv positive and made comments to people that he didn't care who he gave it too because who ever gave it too him hadn't cared.. this guy purposely had bb sex with a few guys.. however people like this arnt the only ones to blaim. This is 2008 not the early 80s we have knowledge that those didn't have back then. This guy couldn't infect anyone if they had made the smart choice and protected themselves.

IMO no one is responsible for keeping another person hiv negative. health is an individuals own responsibility.. I am hiv negative and staying that way falls on me and no other.. back to your other question im not sure what the risk is for recieving unprotected oral. i havent heard of any cases..

[twinkboylover28]

As usual Josephga you are correct.

Not a single person has to get HIV via sexual contact if everyone protects themselves from here on out. My main thesis was that I just couldn't believe some would knowingly pass it on to an unsuspecting partner.

[Guest Merlin]

Accidents happen, even with safer sex. Therefore it is logical to try to avoid sex with infected partners. There is no certain way to do that, and if you have sex with numbers of men some will be positive and some negative. BUT if you avoid those you know or believe to be infected you are undoubtedly reducing the number of positive partners and reducing the chance of an accident.

[Guest PotatoHead]

>Isn't that like borderline manslaughter? I mean that's really

>sick if you think about it. How can someone who KNOWS for a

>100% fact that they are HIV+ actually consciously tell another

>person (ie- sex partner) to their face that they are HIV- ?

 

Those are the rarities, I'm sure; however, what I would expect is more frequent are people who are + not saying anything about their status to their partners and their partners not asking. There was an HIV awareness ad in SF several years ago featuring two guys ready to have sex. Both guys had thought bubbles with one saying, "He didn't ask about HIV, so he must be +" and the other, "He didn't ask about HIV, so he must be -." I think a lot of people practice don't ask don't tell, though I have no factual basis to support this.

 

>Back to the stats, has it ever been scientificaly proven that

>anyone can get HIV from receiving a blow job?

>

>I was told that it has only been recorded once and the

>circumstances were sketchy.

 

I can't answer the question about scientifically proven; however, I would think that there would have to be other factors significantly contributing to the event - such as the presence of another STD, somehow mixing of blood, biting, etc.

[+ Axiom2001]

>As usual Josephga you are correct.

>Not a single person has to get HIV via sexual contact if

>everyone protects themselves from here on out. My main thesis

>was that I just couldn't believe some would knowingly pass it

>on to an unsuspecting partner.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed! Agreed! Agreed! Agreed! Agreed!

 

Your response sums up this entire thread! It's quite superb, and I thank you immensely!

[seaboy4hire]

>IMO anyone thats willing to have bareback sex already has

>aids. even if they use condoms with you who's to say they

>don't bareback in their personally life.. you should assume

>everyone has aids and use a condom..

 

There is a difference clinically between AIDS and HIV.

 

What is HIV?

 

The Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) is the virus that leads to AIDS. HIV belongs to a subset of retroviruses called lentiviruses (or slow viruses), which means that there is an interval -- sometimes years -- between the initial infection and the onset of symptoms. Upon entering the bloodstream -- through mucous membranes or blood-to-blood contact -- HIV infects the CD4+T cells and begins to replicate rapidly.

 

Scientists believe that when the virus enters the body, HIV begins to disable the body's immune system by using the body's aggressive immune responses to the virus to infect, replicate and kill immune system cells. Gradual deterioration of immune function and eventual destruction of lymphoid and immunologic organs is central to triggering the immunosuppression that leads to AIDS.

 

What is AIDS?

 

Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome (AIDS) is the final stage of HIV infection. The Centers for Disease Control establish the definition of AIDS, which occurs in HIV-infected persons with fewer than 200 CD4+T cells and/or persons with HIV who develop certain opportunistic infections. In 1992, the CDC redefined AIDS to include 26 CDC-defined AIDS indicator illnesses and clinical conditions that affect persons with advanced HIV.

 

Source:http://www.hiv.com

 

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Greg

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[seaboy4hire]

TBL there have been a few cases where the person did not disclose their status and were convicted and locked up. I don't know if it was manslaughter but they were found guilty regardless. Theres been a couple cases here in Washington of such situations.

 

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[Guest josephga]

This case here is the one i hear the most about..

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/basir1108

[tanman4u]

"How can someone who KNOWS for a 100% fact that they are HIV+ actually consciously tell another person (ie- sex partner) to their face that they are HIV- ?"

 

Hell there's an entire website dedicated to it. http://www.bugshare.net has tons of stories of guys who deceived other guys so as to convert them. There's stories about biting the ends off of condoms, or just slipping it off during the heat of things, etc. The site "claims" it's only fantasy stories and it's there to promote safe sex. I guess that's partly true because it scared the hell outta me and made me play it even safer than before.

[Guest josephga]

I have a friend that dated a guy that was poz for 8 years and until the last year of the guys life my friend didnt have a clue. his partner lied the whole first 7 years of the relationship. he told me he found out once the guy started getting really sick. about 3 years into the relationship they even stopped using condoms.. he told me the day he found out that he was scared too death that he just knew he was going too test poz as well. but he didnt. he says he knows how lucky he is. even after finding out his partner lied he stayed with him that final year keeping the relationship non sexual, sometimes working 2 jobs to get the bills paid. its been 7 years and too this day he still tests negative. he has been in a new relationship for the last 5 years and told me they use condoms every single time. that he would never risk it again even in a long term..