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In the US, on rentmen (including Toronto and Montreal)

3700 escorts

17% bareback ("anthing goes")

27% tops

23% vers top

29% vers

9% vers btm

4% btm

(8% ask me, but who cares)

 

1200 muscle escorts

16% bareback ( "anything goes")

35% tops

27% vers top

22% vers

5% vers btm

1% btm

(10% "ask me" but who cares)

 

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That seems about right. I definitely think it makes the most business sense to be top, vers-top, or vers. I consider myself vers, but it's very easy to find bottoms on Grindr when I want to do that. It's much harder to find good tops.

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In the US, on rentmen (including Toronto and Montreal)

3700 escorts

17% bareback ("anthing goes")

27% tops

23% vers top

29% vers

9% vers btm

4% btm

(8% ask me, but who cares)

 

1200 muscle escorts

16% bareback ( "anything goes")

35% tops

27% vers top

22% vers

5% vers btm

1% btm

(10% "ask me" but who cares)

Thanks for sharing this. I still don't understand those bottoms on RM. I'm pretty sure they operate their business mostly at loss and they do it basically for sport.

 

As per the Safe/BB stats they are biased. I can't tell how many "Only Safe" tops change their minds when you offer a bit more for BB. Nowadays, almost everyone is on PrEP anyways.

 

I would also like to know where did you get these stats from. Care to PM Daddy?

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I still don't understand those bottoms on RM. I'm pretty sure they operate their business mostly at loss and they do it basically for sport.

 

What's not to understand? Not every client is a bottom.

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What's not to understand? Not every client is a bottom.

Yes, that's why I said they do it for sport, just that with RM they get some money in exchange. I'd doubt it justifies a strong investment in advertisements.

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Thanks for sharing this. I still don't understand those bottoms on RM. I'm pretty sure they operate their business mostly at loss and they do it basically for sport.

 

As per the Safe/BB stats they are biased. I can't tell how many "Only Safe" tops change their minds when you offer a bit more for BB. Nowadays, almost everyone is on PrEP anyways.

 

I would also like to know where did you get these stats from. Care to PM Daddy?

U know me, dont give a shit about tops and its a lot easier for a top to bb than a btm. Where the hell can i find bb musc btms.

Stats, easy, just fake gps yourself in the middle of US and do search by distance

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That seems about right. I definitely think it makes the most business sense to be top, vers-top, or vers. I consider myself vers, but it's very easy to find bottoms on Grindr when I want to do that. It's much harder to find good tops.

U lucky bastard, cant find btms, grndr or scruff

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Dam those strict tops. You d think bottoming would be a day off for escorts, no cumming no blue pilll... top clients are at a disadvantage

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Dam those strict tops. You d think bottoming would be a day off for escorts, no cumming no blue pilll... top clients are at a disadvantage

I know Mike Gaite has posted on this board a couple of times saying no matter how hard he tried he rarely has clients who want to top him but is always looking. Try contacting him as he travels quite extensively.

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Dam those strict tops. You d think bottoming would be a day off for escorts, no cumming no blue pilll... top clients are at a disadvantage

 

Not sure what part of the country you're in but JasMorgan in Cleveland is a total bottom and has an amazing body. I'm still trying to line something up with him. And here in Columbus almost all the guys are bottoms on Grindr/Scruff. Guess I'm just lucky, lol.

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I don’t get the stats with all the tops. I hear there are more bottoms in the gay world than anything. I don’t necessarily believe that but finding a porn model muscle bottom is like discovering a two headed unicorn. Damn near impossible unless your willing to travel to the big city. Plus the BB info maybe skewed because most guys won’t advertise that unless you ask. A more accurate way to get a true number would be number of safe only responses.

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U lucky bastard, cant find btms, grndr or scruff

I believe you have the wrong filters or wrong approach Daddy. Only in a parallel universe there would be a shortage in the supply of bottoms on Grindr or Scruff.

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Dam those strict tops. You d think bottoming would be a day off for escorts, no cumming no blue pilll... top clients are at a disadvantage

While there is excess of bottoms I can see how you could be rejected by some bottoms as for most of them the ideal sex partner has to be young, tall, hairy, handsome and hung. But I also think there is a good number of them who are into mature men. Also, why not expanding your search criteria to those escorts who advertise as versatile. As per @marylander1940 empiric observations, a bunch of them are natural bottoms who'd top only if requested/necessary for business.

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Dam those strict tops. You d think bottoming would be a day off for escorts, no cumming no blue pilll... top clients are at a disadvantage

 

For some guys bottoming is painful. Would you be able to bottom for $ ?

 

Top is the one who tried to bottom and couldn't!

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I’d love to know the number of “Ask Me” in the Safer Sex category. I find that the last few years, Anything Goes popularity has moved to Ask Me. Perhaps that is due to the popularity of PrEP. I’ve also never had an Ask Me say “No” to bareback.

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For some guys bottoming is painful. Would you be able to bottom for $ ?

 

Top is the one who tried to bottom and couldn't!

Oh yes. I think if I was young and muscled I would bottom for $ but only seeing clients 8" and less.

I somewhat disagree with the pain thing. I've asked my tops who tried and couldn't. Their discomfort was also psychological.

They have a mindset of dominance.

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I’d love to know the number of “Ask Me” in the Safer Sex category. I find that the last few years, Anything Goes popularity has moved to Ask Me. Perhaps that is due to the popularity of PrEP. I’ve also never had an Ask Me say “No” to bareback.

Completely agree. I also don't like providers who say they only do safe but will raise their donation if you ask bb. Another way of scam to get more money from the client.

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I’d love to know the number of “Ask Me” in the Safer Sex category. I find that the last few years, Anything Goes popularity has moved to Ask Me. Perhaps that is due to the popularity of PrEP. I’ve also never had an Ask Me say “No” to bareback.

 

Ask me means they're afraid of being blacklisted by those who still practice safe sex.

 

A frequent poster bragged last month about convincing guys who listed "Safe only" to BB just for him.

 

PrEP has certainly changed the game but before there were guys who didn't care about HIV because in their minds it was a manageable disease.

 

 

Oh yes. I think if I was young and muscled I would bottom for $ but only seeing clients 8" and less.

I somewhat disagree with the pain thing. I've asked my tops who tried and couldn't. Their discomfort was also psychological.

They have a mindset of dominance.

 

Talk to the ones who brag about being strictly tops on here...

 

I'm sure it has a lot to do with personal insecurities and the influence of our society but some swear even a finger could be extremely painful.

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Talk to the ones who brag about being strictly tops on here...

 

I'm sure it has a lot to do with personal insecurities and the influence of our society but some swear even a finger could be extremely painful.

Nah, that's an exaggeration, you can't have excruciating pain from just 1 finger. How do you poop then, liquid? Lol. I've rimmed and fingered some of my tops, of course never in the first meeting as for them is something intimate. Some of them even enjoy this with women so they agree to do it with me knowing that I'm 100% bottom and I'm not trying to penetrate them, just playing. They will get rock hard, allow this play for a minute or two, and then go back to dominate. But if I try to stick a full finger or 2 fingers, or even worst being on top, they will lose their hard-on.

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Nah, that's an exaggeration, you can't have excruciating pain from just 1 finger. How do you poop then, liquid? Lol. I've rimmed and fingered some of my tops, of course never in the first meeting as for them is something intimate. Some of them even enjoy this with women so they agree to do it with me knowing that I'm 100% bottom and I'm not trying to penetrate them, just playing. They will get rock hard, allow this play for a minute or two, and then go back to dominate. But if I try to stick a full finger or 2 fingers, or even worst being on top, they will lose their hard-on.

 

Maybe that’s an exaggeration but they have to said that on here. I’m not going to quote them. Maybe they’ll post on their own.

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Not sure what part of the country you're in but JasMorgan in Cleveland is a total bottom and has an amazing body. I'm still trying to line something up with him. And here in Columbus almost all the guys are bottoms on Grindr/Scruff. Guess I'm just lucky, lol.

Oh there's no shortage of bottoms here and they all hit me on Scruff and grinder and they all want me because of my pictures and then I tell them I'm not hung and I'm dead in the water. Ssssso are all your Columbus bottoms sizequeen as well

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I believe you have the wrong filters or wrong approach Daddy. Only in a parallel universe there would be a shortage of supply of bottoms on Grindr or Scruff.

No. In this universe, anything less than an 8 is not worth btming for.

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While there is excess of bottoms I can see how you could be rejected by some bottoms as for most of them the ideal sex partner has to be young, tall, hairy, handsome and hung. But I also think there is a good number of them who are into mature men. Also, why not expanding your search criteria to those escorts who advertise as versatile. As per @marylander1940 empiric observations, a bunch of them are natural bottoms who'd top only if requested/necessary for business.

U have no idea the amount of vers or vers top or worse ask me who said no btmint

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