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[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Thank you @nycman because this made my morning! I know my story sounds crazy and it is and you actually made me laugh out loud! The thing is this wasn't about money to me and I would have continued to fund his life if he would have been up front with me - it was more about me being naive and believing what I wanted to believe. Again, I have no ill will toward this guy and I'm sure he will be ok (regardless of the fact that he said I ruined his life) and I'm sure I'm not the only one he has done this to. Again, thanks!

 

The way you're cooly handling these responses says a lot about your character.

 

Hope you stick around here for awhile: You seem like a good egg.

[Tonyko]

I've always thought of these kind of guys as adorable wild animals, you bring them inside and feed them but the environment is unnatural to them and they don't want to be there and minute you stop feeding them they bite youo_O

THAT being said I can't believe how good you were to him and how much $$$ you spent on him!

* Have you ever considered adoption? Perhaps a 40-something? Sandy blonde hair, green eyes, gym bod? Small and compact easily fits in a carry-on? Think about it:)

[jawjateck]

he said I ruined his life

 

35k ruined his life? 50k might have been lethal.

[Caliboy95]

Damn. This is crazy. I would be happy to go on a free vacation even if I flight in the cheapest class. ?

 

Jokes aside, I truly feel bad for you because there are a lot of people out there that knows how to manipulate people for their own benefit and you felt for it. It’s not your fault because I have fallen for guys with this type of personality before but without financial part of your story.

[+ m_writer]

*hugs*

 

You don't deserve to be used and abused like that. I'm sorry you had to go through that.

 

Here's a suggestion: come to the forum's Palm Springs weekend. You'll hang out with other people on this forum and meet some decent and wonderful people and escorts to help show you that not all escorts are like this abuser.

[+ nycman]

FINN FANG FOOM revisited

I am truly honored.

He was one of the greats and I miss his brilliant commentaries.

Thank you @nycman because this made my morning!

No bro, thank you for taking it in the playful manner in which it was intended.

Not everyone can laugh at themselves. Once you learn the ropes, you'll do just fine.

... With just a smidge of Rockhard and Doug69 thrown in for good measure

More flattery...stop...I'm starting to blush!

The way you're cooly handling these responses says a lot about your character.

I couldn't agree more.

35k ruined his life? 50k might have been lethal.

So fucking funny! Damn, I gotta get to ATL soon.

[InterestingGuy]

@BDSfan4Life Since you are specifically asking about others who have met him - I am one of them. I have met him several times - and although my experiences with him were generally positive, I did start to see the patterns of manipulation begin once we had established an even very limited relationship. He would text me out of the blue asking for money. He would ask for “an advance” on our next visit. These are red flags for me, and I would shut them down immediately - but he would wait for a period of time and then try again. When he was told “no” again, he eventually gave up. Our last exchange was a little terse because his frustration began to show. At times, he seems really desperate for money.

 

Based on the story you told, I can understand how his personality can play right into someone like you, since you seem to be a giver/pleaser. He can be disarmingly endearing in a childlike way since he always seems happy, smiley and easy-going - almost like a big, goofy kid trapped in the body of a bodybuilder. But regardless of these qualities, he has already shown you who he is. Repeatedly.

Don’t make the same mistake again.

[Skip]

My mother used to always say..."You are never the only one". So anyone criticizing your actions or saying you have no respect for money...careful those words could haunt you.Yes the amounts may seem large to some, probably of no consequence to others. Easy to throw rocks, but we all live in glass houses. So BDS..I have been there too. I haven't tallied up the total but we are probably i about the same dollar amount. Rented a new apartment in NYC (he paid some) gave him credit cards to furnish it. (Man he maxed out everyone in no time! I'd pay it, bam, maxed again) Anyway it went on for 6 months start to finish. I met him on SA. He had a job and was a really nice guy...just took me for the financial ride of my life that I agreed to. No, I'm not asking for sympathy, just letting you know you aren't the only one. I can afford it, sounds like you can as well. It happens, you and I are fortunate enough that we can afford it financially, but it isn't about the money is it? SInce then I have been a little less involved with my hires. I have a good time, enjoy myself and take them with a grain of salt. Good Luck, I know it hurts.

[Gymowner]

curious and skip.... this is not being generous as in this is a virtue. if it was generosity then one would happily throw the money out to those that really need it. if the hustler was overweight, not so pretty etc would the meal ticket be so generous? its about a fantasy "feeling" for being needed and wanted but by only a certain type that the meal ticket knows isnt going to have feelings back.

 

waste ones money anyway one wants to. it would just be nice to hear a story that one gave 35 grand to a hurricane relief fund or to catholic charities instead of being taken advantage of.. imho

 

and i feel there is no respect for self first, then no respect for money. spending money on someone an making you feel good isnt the issue. its knowingly understanding that one is being a victim and continuing the circumstance that is the issue.i dont want to sound like i am in judgement, i just want to call out what it really is so others can understand and possibly learn from this before it happens to them.

Edited February 1, 2020 by Gymowner

[+ nycman]

I just want to jump on a plane and fly out to Vegas and it is taking everything I have to keep myself from doing that.

Just so we’re clear....I will kick your ass if you get on that plane.

 

Right now Vegas is the last place on earth you need to be.

You are in recovery. There are millions of amazing places

on earth to explore. Vegas is one of them, but not for you.

Not right now.

 

Think of someplace else you’ve always wanted to go, and get

on the next plane to that place. Rinse and repeat until “Vegas“

is just a foolish childhood memory.

[Skip]

Gym, I never said it was generous...I never said I wasn't duped or felt foolish. I was just saying that he wasn't the only one, I have done the same foolish things....As for being generous and this is not giving...this is spending. Generosity is a different area. I am careful not to confuse this spending with hurricane relief ...I do my fair share of that and I don't confuse it with what I spend for "pleasure". I just felt the forum was beating up on BDS as if he were the only person who ever opened his wallet for exactly the reasons you describe and was duped.. And if I go in with my eyes wide open...I'm not the victim. It's just a larger expense than I planned. Like a restaurant that is more expensive than you planned and the food is mediocre. When you go back...then it is your fault. There is a lot of very expensive talent out there that really delivers. Unfortunately on occasion, there are those that don't . I will drop a check in the mail to a Catholic charity in your honor...thanks for reminding me what is really important.

[Gymowner]

Skip I truely understand where you are coming from. But I think your example of spending is slightly off base in this example. If the escort said "my fee is 35k for one month of service" and he delivered as expected. Perfect. Now can one have remorse for this saying "geez... one week for 10k would have fit me just fine. Why did I spend the other 25k", then it would be spot on.

 

The escort saw a chance to VICTIMIZE him. That also happens in life. But for BDS to want to get on a plane and go back for more is similar to an abused battered woman getting away from her attacker yet going back again and again. This now goes way past the issue of "spending money".

 

And BDS, please understand, I am not trying whatsoever to attack, belittle nor berate you. I just think sympathy is not the way to go at this time for such a raw situation.

 

I dont think any further opinion is really necessary. BDS is trying to get stronger and I wish him well for that

Edited February 1, 2020 by Gymowner

[+ Coolwave35]

This is the problem when people inherit money. Easy come, easy go.

[sincitymix]

I wanted to share with the group a recent experience because I need to talk about it to someone.

 

I went to Las Vegas in Nov '19 and prior to going I set up an overnight with someone from rent.men - I was only in town for 1 night. I'm not going to use his screen name on here. We set an overnight rate ($1500) to include dinner and I usually stay at the best places/suites in Vegas when I'm in town so I was at the Aria Sky Suites. He was running late which turned into almost 2 hours late so we skipped dinner. I met him downstairs because of security for the suites and we went back to the room. We talked, watched TV and ordered room service. He was nice, looked exactly like his pictures (although I found out he is 26, not 22 like his profile states and that is not an issue), he just recently started work on a huge back tattoo (which I was more than happy to rub lotion on) and we had an overall enjoyable evening. The next morning we showered and hung out for a bit. He opened up to me during our conversation and gave me his real name and showed me pictures on his IG account. He told me a little about the business he is in and I was curious and asked a lot of questions. Before leaving he gave me his real phone number and I told him I'd be interested in seeing him more in the future.

 

He immediately started texting me and told me he had a great time. I was smitten and after a couple of days of conversation I told him I would "sponsor" the rest of his tattoo work and I sent him some money. A day or two later he was in a "bind" and needed some help so I sent him some more money. I knew I wanted to see him again and I was going to Huntington Beach, CA for work and invited him to come along. I bought his first class tickets (he provided me with all of his info so I knew his age at this point, birthday, address, etc.). He asked me for an advance and I was more than happy to do that for him. He needed supliments for the gym and food. All in all prior to our meeting in California I sent him around $8k and I figured for a weekend we would be close to what he would charge - but he asked for additional money and I obliged. I noticed a few things out of the ordinary but didn't put much more thought into it - but I did find out he was a heavy steroids user and has bazaar sleep pasterns as well as a heavy smoker. He wanted to go shopping and ended up buying him $800 worth of "stuff". It was an expensive weekend but again - I was smitten and was just being happy to have eye candy. I was already planning our next trip - this time to Florida.

 

I bought him an iPhone 11 to replace his outdated iPhone 6 and got him a new pair of AirPod Pros.

 

During the 2 weeks between California and Florida we texted daily. Good mornings, afternoons, etc and he sent daily pictures of what he was doing. These text also came with monetary request. His truck would break down. He got sick and needed to go to urgent care (2x). He would overspend at the bars and not have enough money to pay his tab (these calls would come in the wee hours of the morning).

 

The trip to Florida! This was a 3 day trip and I was excited to spend time with him. I promised him a "night off" so he could go and do whatever he wanted around the city. I got us a great room right on the beach. Then everything started to spiral... The night before he flew out he spent at the bars in Vegas (his local bar to be exact - and I know a lot about that place from what he told me). When he got here the weather was awesome but all he wanted to do was sleep. Ok, no big deal because we had lot of time. We had dinner reservations that night but he didn't want to go so I canceled them. He slept while I watched TV in the living room of our suite. Then all he wanted to do was go to a strip club (a tiddy club as he called it) so I put him in an Uber and off he went. I'd get calls that he was out of cash and stranded so I sent him more money until I max'ed out the amount I could send on cash app. The weekend sucked and I felt ripped off. On check out day I just took him straight to the airport even though his flight was 6 hours out.

 

At this point I was done - but once he got back to Vegas he put the charm on again. I had a work engagement in London and I was following it up with a week vacation in Greece and I asked him to go (OMG am I stupid?). He said he wanted to go but I had to fly him first class (which is no big deal because that is the only way I fly). I purchased the tickets but things started to really fall apart before this trip. He told me he "quit" working as long as I would be there and take care of him and I was good with that. Why not, I could make it happen and I thought about renting him an apartment in Vegas and started looking around. Then one day he needed a rather large sum of money because his truck broke down and needed $3k worth of work, he had a $3k marker at a bar and this chick he fucked "one time" was pregnant and needed an abortion. I called bullshit and started to question a lot of stuff. I hired a PI out in Vegas to give me a run down on him and found out much more than I ever wanted to know. I told him I'd send him money to get his truck fixed but the rest was on him. This is when the roid rage came out in full force! Over the course of 3 days I got blasted in text telling me I'm a piece of shit, I ruined his life, I was a liar about who I am (and I never lied or hid anything about myself), blocked and unblocked reblocked and unblocked from text/calling. Even at the end I felt bad (stupid me) and I told him I'd send him $1000 to help him get out of the bind he was in and instead of getting a thank you I told how much I promised him and how I destroyed everything for him. Granted I knew he was still working because the PI sent me pictures of him going on "dates".

 

So I write this as a lesson learned for myself. Even as I sit here typing this I have feelings for this guy but I know they will pass. In total I spent $35k (not including the airfare to Europe that I'm trying to get refunded). I wanted to know if anyone else has done something this stupid and wanted to share their story with me. I feel shame and feel stupid. I guess I knew what I was getting myself into but I didn't want to believe it.

 

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

 

does he drive a huge white truck with even bigger tires?

[BabyBoomer]

does he drive a huge white truck with even bigger tires?

 

Was that what he was driving when you met him 3+ years ago?

 

~Boomer~

[studchaser]

I cant

[jj69action]

Thanks! I know that now First and only experience like this.

You will be fine, live and learn.

[intecblossom]

Who is this escort and how can I avoid him? Please PM me his name, thanks.

[sincitymix]

Who is this escort and how can I avoid him? Please PM me his name, thanks.

I second this I too would like to know.. privately of course.

[Gymowner]

Bds... you were making strides yet now you are doing what many battered women do. They blame themselves. What your last post was totally about. You mentioned what anyone would do if someone was throwing wads of cash at someone else is to take it. Well not exactly. you stated he came to you each time with a different excuse as to why he needed large amount of your money. And you felt an obligation to give it to him otherwise he cried foul and blamed you for ruining his life. Thats manipulation. If I was an escort I would never take huge amounts of cash from someone unless I knew EXACTLY what they wanted from it AND if I could give that to them. I knew an escort that this happened to. A guy went way overboard giving him large amounts of cash for what basically was the hires way of mentally falling in love. I told the escort "watch out. This doesnt end the way you think it shoud" and sure enough. An ugly situation happened. So to answer your question, no, normal people dont take huge amounts of cash thinking there are no strings attached. If it seems to good to be true....

 

I'm afraid you feel that somehow he will find out that you are trying to stand up for yourself and raise holy hell. Another fear of victims. Now you just want all this to go away but continue posting.

 

I felt sympathy for you. However, I believe that somehow you will not let this go and continue with bankrolling him as if to say to yourself "well if I give him more and more, somehow he will straighten out and become a morally good person and leave me alone".

 

I still feel for you but for a whole different reason. I truly hope this all works out for you in the end. I know I said I would stop commenting but this saga seems to have taken a turn and not much for the better. My apologies.

Edited February 7, 2020 by Gymowner

[+ peterhung85]

@BDSfan4Life : First of all, I am genuinely sorry that this happened to you.

 

This story brings up a few things in me:

1. Makes me want to work out even harder so one day a guy like you will fall for me too (sadly, I have always thought long-term and never scammed anyone in my life /well, exact opposite, I can count on my one hand how many times people tried to take advantage of me/, and this guy with all his scams probably makes as much as I do, which is just crazy to me).

2. Reinforces the fact that with amazing looks, you can still get away with murder because nice guys like you allow it (unfortunately).

3. Makes me wonder if you ever read anyone's reviews before hiring a companion....?!

 

Since he did all these things, wouldn't you want to share it in a form of a review so that others don't make the same mistake?! Because I bet you that you weren't the first he did this to.... but if you could stop him from doing this to others, it would do everyone a great favor (providers and clients as well)!

 

Thank you!

Edited February 14, 2020 by peterhung85

[+ peterhung85]

Thank you for your sweet message my dear!!! :-*

 

Sorry to hear! However, his is the outcome when people think from waist down rather than shoulder up! Well “dopamine” is indeed very strong chemical that brain secretes and it hijacks rationale thinking. I would say only will power is big thing to overcome the drooling over eye candies! I am not saying that not to spend money on someone whom you like but do it not at first time. First build mutual trust! Understand integrity of a person and then take the move. I am glad that I made conscious choice to meet @peterhung85 who is indeed a person of integrity. It is exactly the reason why many respect him and like to meet him.