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>Yeah, that's s story that middle-America can grab and go

>with. Except the shitty sex part...

 

LOL "shitty sex" in this case both figuratively and literally!

 

A bit surprizing, Craig seems like a bottom to me (and someone

who would be into watersports and scat) ... guess you never know!:+

 

Cheers,

Fisher :7

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Soliciting = Free Speech?

 

The gift that keeps on giving! Now Craig is claiming First Amendment protection for his stall communications:

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21496482/

 

If he wins legal recognition of solicitation as free speech, he'll have just about redeemed himself in my book. }(

 

Of course he'll probably try to have it both ways, just as it appears he's done in the rest of his life thus far.

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I am not so sure about giving full credence to this allegation. Yes, it's possible that this guy remembers an encounter from 20 years ago. However, there's plenty a bar fly in DC that claims to have had sex with high level government officials for years.

 

I recall one guy who claimed to have had sex with Democratic Senator Sam Nunn during the Don't Ask Don't Tell controversy. Senator Nunn was the driving force behind that legislation when it was passed. There were a few who wanted to believe such a story but it's so far fetched as to be beyond absurdity.

 

One reason the mainstream media would avoid reporting this story is that it's totally impossible to prove it’s true. Unless there's a video tape that is. The source certainly does not have the credibility of a police officer operating a sting to arrest restroom perverts.

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>One reason the mainstream media would avoid reporting this

>story is that it's totally impossible to prove it’s true.

>Unless there's a video tape that is.

 

My memory is a bit fuzzy here but when Mike Jones outed Ted Haggard, did he have any proof other than is own word? I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

 

But there are many sleazy tabloids that could run the story. If they are simply quoting what someone was claiming, I would think they would be safe legally. No?

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>>One reason the mainstream media would avoid reporting this

>>story is that it's totally impossible to prove it’s true.

>>Unless there's a video tape that is.

>

>My memory is a bit fuzzy here but when Mike Jones outed Ted

>Haggard, did he have any proof other than is own word? I don't

>think so, but I could be wrong.

>

>But there are many sleazy tabloids that could run the story.

>If they are simply quoting what someone was claiming, I would

>think they would be safe legally. No?

 

That's a good point. I forgot about that story but didn't Haggard cop a plea and beg forgiveness at the allegation? Senator Craig is certainly not inclined to follow that route.

 

Still...I'm not 100% convinced the allegation holds water in this instance. Don't be surprised if the senator decides to file suit to force the guy to recant.

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>But there are many sleazy tabloids that could run the story.

>If they are simply quoting what someone was claiming, I would

>think they would be safe legally. No?

 

 

These days you can pretty much say anthing about a famous person (and Larry Craig falls under "famous person" status) as long as it is not malicious and/or defamatory.

 

Truth is always a defense however.

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>Craig decided not to resign, because the government will pay

>for his lawyers.

 

I don't think the government will pay for his lawyers. However, he will be able to use any campaign funds that he has raised for reelection for such a purpose. He will also be able to take any funds in those accounts for his retirement in addition to his congressional retirement plans. It's likely he's sitting on at least a half million or more in his campaign accounts.

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>However, he will be able to use any campaign funds that he has

>raised for reelection for such a purpose. He will also be

>able to take any funds in those accounts for his retirement in

>addition to his congressional retirement plans. It's likely

>he's sitting on at least a half million or more in his

>campaign accounts.

 

Really? That sounds like conversion - which James Bakker (Tammy Faye's ex) went to jail for.

 

If he can keep the funds for his retirement fund - please tell me he at least has to pay income tax on the $$$.

 

Eventually, when everything is finally sorted out, someone will write a book about the whole mess. Could prove to be interesting reading.

Kitty Kelly - are you listening?

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Remember, Congress writes the legislation so they take care of themselves very well. Since he's not going to run for reelection he can pretty much use that money as he pleases.

 

Also, Congress is exempt from most of the labor laws and other restrictions the rest of us must live by. For example, MOC's may obtain Cuban cigars legally while the rest of us have to resort to convoluted mechanisims to smuggle....uh import....them from Canada and Central America. That exemption has been in existence since the embargo was first implemented over 40 years ago.

 

Old time staff refer to the Hill as "the Last Plantation" for a number of reasons. Each office is the personal fiefdom of it's MOC and believe me some of these guys are real slave drivers. Pun intended.

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Only 8 men Larry??

 

Paper: 8 Men Claim Encounters With Craig

 

Sunday, December 2, 2007

U.S. Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho), right, and his wife, ...

 

(12-02) 19:40 PST Boise, Idaho (AP) --

 

Eight men say they either had sex with Sen. Larry Craig or were targets of sexual advances by the Idaho lawmaker at various times during his political career, a newspaper reported Sunday.

 

One of the men is the former escort whose allegations disgraced the Rev. Ted Haggard, former president of the National Association of Evangelicals, the Idaho Statesman reported.

 

The newspaper identified four men and reported details of the encounters they say involved Craig. It also reported the accounts of four other men who did not agree to be identified but who described sexual advances or encounters involving the conservative Republican, who opposes same-sex marriage and has a strong record against gay rights.

 

Craig pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct after being accused by an undercover officer of soliciting sex at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport and later called a news conference to deny that he is gay.

 

The newspaper acknowledged that its report was not based on definitive evidence but said it also found no evidence to disprove the accounts of the four identified men. It said it reviewed the senator's travel records, which put him where the sex is alleged to have taken place, and did background checks on those making the allegations.

 

Craig and members of his staff declined to comment to the newspaper.

 

But in a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press on Sunday, the senator said the newspaper's report was "completely false" and he accused the paper of careless journalism.

 

"It is unfortunate that the Idaho Statesman has chosen to continue to lower itself to the standards of what can best be described as tabloid journalism," Craig said in the statement.

 

"Despite the fact the Idaho Statesman has decided to pursue its own agenda and print these falsehoods without any facts to back them up, I won't let this paper's attempt to malign my name stop me from continuing my work to serve the people of Idaho."

 

The report is the Statesman's latest on allegations about Craig's sexual background since his June arrest in an airport men's room sex sting operation was reported in late August.

 

Statesman Editor Vicki Gowler said the newspaper spent several months checking the backgrounds and details of the men's stories.

 

"We believe it's important for you to know what we've learned and to hear the men's own words," Gowler said.

 

Two of the identified men and one of the unidentified men told the newspaper they had sex with Craig.

 

One of the men identified in the report, Mike Jones, 50, described as a former male escort, was the focus of the sex scandal involving Haggard, the disgraced leader of Colorado's New Life Church.

 

Jones said Craig paid him $200 for sex in late 2004 or early 2005. The encounter took place at a studio apartment in downtown Denver, Jones said.

 

Jones told the Statesman that he did not recognize Craig until his arrest made the news. The newspaper reported that Jones went on the record after Craig appeared in a television news report in August to address the arrest and his future in politics.

 

Jones has written a book about his experience with Haggard and acknowledged to the Statesman that his allegation about Craig might help sales. A message left for Jones by The Associated Press through his publisher Sunday evening was not immediately returned.

 

Current phone numbers could not be found for the three other men identified in the Statesman's report.

 

Amid pressure from top GOP leaders in Washington, Craig announced his intent to resign from the Senate. He later changed his mind, deciding to finish out his term, which expires in January 2009. He is also appealing in Minnesota courts to have his guilty plea overturned.

 

The undercover police officer who arrested Craig said the senator moved his foot next to the officer's foot and tapped it in a way that indicated he wanted sex. He also alleged the senator sent a signal by swiping his hand under the divider between men's room stalls.

 

Craig has said the officer misconstrued those motions.

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> The undercover police officer who arrested Craig said the senator moved his foot next to the officer's foot and tapped it in a way that indicated he wanted sex. He also alleged the senator sent a signal by swiping his hand under the divider between men's room stalls.

 

> Craig has said the officer misconstrued those motions.

 

 

Senator Craig further contends he was not aware of the officer entering the next stall, as he was adjusting the volume on his iPod at the time. His alleged foot and hand gestures were merely reflective of his enjoyment in listening to The Shirelles' rendition of “Love is a Swingin’ Thing”.

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RE: Only 8 men Larry??

 

>"It is unfortunate that the Idaho Statesman has chosen to

>continue to lower itself to the standards of what can best be

>described as tabloid journalism," Craig said in the

>statement.

 

I think the only "Statesman" who has lowered standards is the Senator himself. If 8 have come forward, it's probably only the tip of the iceberg.

 

I know the Religous Right, where most of his support lies, are famous for hiding their heads in the sand - but even they must at some point in time come to their senses.

 

>"Despite the fact the Idaho Statesman has decided to pursue

>its own agenda and print these falsehoods without any facts to

>back them up, I won't let this paper's attempt to malign my

>name stop me from continuing my work to serve the people of

>Idaho."

 

The only way he can "serve the people of Idaho" is by resigning. I guess he could always confess his "sins" and visit the same kook that Haggard saw and declare himself as "cured" in about three weeks.

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Great Chritmas present!

 

http://www.stupid.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/craig-a.jpg

 

The Talking Senator Larry Craig Action Figure stands about 12" tall and wears a t-shirt emblazoned with his declaration: "I Am Not Gay." His limbs are bendable, so you can put him in all sorts of poses... even the famous "wide stance" the Senator refers to.

 

Best of all, THE ACTION FIGURE TALKS! Press the button, and he delivers a portion of his Press Conference...

"Thank you all very much for coming out today. I will read a statement: 'I am not gay. I never have been gay."

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