Open to pricing advice?

[sexymonk]

Thank you for sharing your story. It is so funny how we are all so different and coming from different backgrounds.

 

I remember when I first started in this trade, I had a rather lower hourly rate (not Craigslist low but RB low) but I was running specials back then. I wanted to see the USA & the world. I offered to clients that if they take me to a US state or a country I have not been before, I charge $300/day. Before I get new inquiries, please note that that limited time offer has expired (10 years ago ).

 

To address @keroscenefire I would say "Go for it"... just be as "non-intrusive" as you possibly can. Approach it from the angle that you are trying to help (in case they need it) and not from an angle that "I know it better than you, so let me tell you that..... ". I know you would do it as scenario #1, just re-affirming.

You mean I missed the initial limited offer? I don’t think so! I get unlimited experience from you on all sphere!

[BaronArtz]

How hard can it be for a newbie escort to find out what the market rates are in his area? Pretend to be a prospective client, contact a representative number of escorts that have your 'look' and be quoted what their rates are. This is not rocket science.

 

When someone quotes me a high rate, I simply say 'thank you, that is above my spending cap at the moment'. I hope it comes across as polite and professional.

[+ FreshFluff]

The problem is that we do not know the mean and standard variation for price, though it theoretically exists. This board would likely be the best resource for calculating it with a huge sample size over time, in USA for example, for one hour with a cis-male escort and no other variables and no other extraneous chatter in a unique dedicated thread that could be started in which posters simple entered the fee they paid for each encounter in real time until we achieve an arbitrary volume of data, eg 1,000 tricks, 12 months Jan-Dec2020, etc.

 

The average price along with the price range for 67% of tricks could easily be established. The larger the sample size the narrower typically that 67% calculation (plus/minus 1st standard deviation) around the average the range is.

 

Armed with this data, escorts and johns could be given a general benchmark around which to justify asks at the higher end.

 

It's a good idea, but I'm guessing the escorts in this group aren't a representative sample as far as price goes.

[+ keroscenefire]

It's a good idea, but I'm guessing the escorts in this group aren't a representative sample as far as price goes.

 

You wouldn't be asking the escorts, but the clients. Or you could even use Daddy Reviews since they show the price for time (assuming they are roughly accurate).

 

For example in Denver there are 17 escorts reviewed on DR: Five have a suggested donation of $200 an hour, 1 has $220, 8 have $250 and 3 have $300. So the average escort charges $242 an hour in Denver. I think that is pretty useful information for both client and escort alike.

 

Of course there are limitations...reviewers are not always accurate, escorts change their prices, escorts move or retire, etc. But in doing the math on that, the escort suggested donation for Denver seems pretty accurate. Although I suppose it helps that I wrote about half the reviews myself.

[+ Pensant]

How hard can it be for a newbie escort to find out what the market rates are in his area? Pretend to be a prospective client, contact a representative number of escorts that have your 'look' and be quoted what their rates are. This is not rocket science.

 

When someone quotes me a high rate, I simply say 'thank you, that is above my spending cap at the moment'. I hope it comes across as polite and professional.

That’s about the same verbiage that I use. It’s to the point, non-triggering, and opens the conversation up to an adjustment in fees, if the provider desires.

[+ Pensant]

Ultimately, that is what I did. Like I said, I did a sort of "That's a bit more than I can afford for right now, but good luck," sort of message. So at least there is an indication that their price was the sticking point for me and maybe that will lead to adjustments. The "trial and error" as you will. I will likely still browse their profiles from time to time and if they want to message me again, will certainly be open to seeing them if they figure out a price for their time that is more what I am willing to do with them.

Sometimes closing with “good luck” can be a bit off-putting.

[BaronArtz]

Sometimes closing with “good luck” can be a bit off-putting.

 

I agree.

[+ keroscenefire]

I agree.

I don't actually think I wrote good luck on either message...but I'll remember that in case I'm tempted to. Thanks.

[+ poolboy48220]

Sometimes closing with “good luck” can be a bit off-putting.

Back in my running days, there was a big difference between spectators at a marathon cheering "Looking good!" vs "Hang in there!" :-)

[+ peterhung85]

You mean I missed the initial limited offer? I don’t think so! I get unlimited experience from you on all sphere!

Sorry, definitely missed the $300/day special!

[+ smara]

You mean I missed the initial limited offer? I don’t think so! I get unlimited experience from you on all sphere!

 

Great for you!! Envy you, man

[Ryan Roman]

I recently got messages (unsolicited but likely because I browsed their profiles) from two escorts in Denver that by their lack of reviews and RM member dates are probably new to the trade. In both cases, when it got to talking about what they charge for time, both quoted pretty high numbers, especially for someone with little track record.

 

In both cases, I just gave a generic response like, "Sorry, but I can't afford that at this time." But was wondering if it would be appropriate or appreciated if I kind of guided these gents on pricing. As I have spent time with many of the available men in Denver, I feel I am pretty knowledgable about the going rates and even a bit about how they compare to other cities.

 

But I don't know if that would come across as rude or if it would be welcome. Is there a way I should present this without coming across as being a bargain hunter or whatever? I really do think that in some case their quoted prices could be just not knowing the market. Although of course I will admit that I actually would be potentially interested in spending time with these guys, just not at the rates they are asking for.

 

Know what your market will bear as well as what your value is related to the market you're serving.

[Ryan Roman]

This is pretty solid advice. In one case, the gentleman was offering a "holiday special" that was 2 hours for $500 (normally he charges $350 an hour and would only do the special if you booked 2 hours). Part of it is that he has some experience in massage and it would include that as well. I almost wanted to offer: Most of the time I get a massage here in Denver for about $150 an hour and time with an escort for about $250 an hour. Would you consider 2 hours for $400? I guess it never hurts to offer and worse that can happen is he says no. $500 to me was out of the question as I had just spent two hours with IronMaus for that price, and he is a world-class escort and porn star (and worth every penny).

 

It never hurts to ask... As long as you're being reasonable in your offer. I know of one great lakes city where the men are cheap as hell and will try to hire a full service provider for $100/hour...