Posting your schedule ahead of time

[+ Mplsgymguy]

Not being a provider, as either an escort or a masseur, I have no idea how the system works on your end. I don’t check the usual sites (Rentmen, Rentmasseur, Masseurfinder) every day, but when I do, it’s very frustrating to see an ad pop up with no advanced notice that a certain provider is suddenly in my area for a few days. Granted, some providers (Victor Powers is a good example) post their travel schedule weeks in advance, and it’s much appreciated. But is the lack of posting the fault of individual providers or of the sites (and some complicated rules)? There are providers with whom I would’ve liked to make contact, if I’d known in advance they would be in my city, whether at home or on vacation.

[Shawn Monroe]

It's not that there are complicated rules. It's how the sites display when you're in a city.

 

Masseurfinder does a good job of denoting when a guy is coming soon vs when he's actually in a city, but RentMen and RentMasseur are rather terrible in that regard - their icons (home base, near travel, currently visiting, and soon to visit) are hard to decipher. Not only that, but RentMen will make it seem like you're in a city up to 30 days before you're actually supposed to be there - Masserfinder, it's 7 days before.

 

With most guys wanting to meet that very second they contact us, we often find ourselves messaging "Hi there - I'm not currently in [x city]. My ad says I'm currently in [y city] and I'll be in [x city] from [date a] to [date b]. Would you like to meet while I'm in town?" more often than booking actual appointments, and to save some of the hassle, many will post their ads when they get to a city (most of our trips are front loaded anyway and most guys want to meet the first day we're in town).

 

All that said, I still prefer to advertise ahead of time - that way I know if I'll at least have a gauge of how a trip will turn out, and whether or not i need to take the trip in the first place.

[MrMattBig]

To add to what @Shawn Monroe mentioned Rentmen only allows for up to 6 cities at a time. So if someone is planning several cities back to back, they will have less time to post up the tail end of their trip. For example I am planning 11 cities from tomorrow through September 11th. In my case some cities get a month exposure, while the back end might only get 1 week exposure.

It used to be even worse when they only allowed 3 cities. If you have particular escorts on your to-do list, reach out to them if they have any plans to visit your home city or where you are traveling to if you sent your travels in advance. It could convince them to make plans once they see eager interest.

[Trick]

Couldn’t providers just put their travel dates on the text of the ad?

[MrMattBig]

Couldn’t providers just put their travel dates on the text of the ad?

Very very very few(very few) potential clients take the time to read the ad copy. I snuck my rate along with my website into the headline of my ad copy, and I still get questions about my rate everyday.

And every time you change the ad copy, at least on rentmen, it's subject to approval which could take several hours and possible censoring.

Besides all of this, even if travel locations are in the ad copy, the profile won't show up in whichever city unless it is listed in the 6 possible travel locations.

[Mocha]

Not being a provider, as either an escort or a masseur, I have no idea how the system works on your end. I don’t check the usual sites (Rentmen, Rentmasseur, Masseurfinder) every day, but when I do, it’s very frustrating to see an ad pop up with no advanced notice that a certain provider is suddenly in my area for a few days. Granted, some providers (Victor Powers is a good example) post their travel schedule weeks in advance, and it’s much appreciated. But is the lack of posting the fault of individual providers or of the sites (and some complicated rules)? There are providers with whom I would’ve liked to make contact, if I’d known in advance they would be in my city, whether at home or on vacation.

 

It’s not a 1 answer fits all topic, tbh. On one hand, I’ve had success travel guys tell me that advertising further than 2 weeks in advance is going to be ineffective, because the guys who were horny 2 weeks ago may not be available and horny 2 weeks later.

 

On the other hand, you have people who book weeks in advance....like has been mentioned.

 

Rentmen is doing the best they can to make the travel schedules noticeable (there’s often in green letters in the list view of profiles, of when someone is visiting the area).

 

In my experience: with the exception of the Palm Springs weekend which is booked months and years in advance, I find 1 to 2 week notice is ample. Sometimes even 1 day notice is ample. I can’t recall how many times I’ve deviated off my travel schedule, only to go to an unexpected city and still ended up busy.

 

In today’s market, advertising too far in advance tend to carry cancellations or “sorry, I’m out of town this week”. I tend to post with no dates, so people don’t get confused if I decide to postpone/push things back...and then when I’m ready, I’ll put a date up and whoever is ready when I get there, is ready.

 

The things I’m not fond of when people reach out and say,

 

“are you in...” (the map shows the city I’m in)

 

“I thought you were here already” (never assume)

 

“How long are you going to be here in...” (Before I even there, which doesn’t sound like they’re trying to nail down plans)

[hypothetically]

Not being a provider, as either an escort or a masseur, I have no idea how the system works on your end. I don’t check the usual sites (Rentmen, Rentmasseur, Masseurfinder) every day, but when I do, it’s very frustrating to see an ad pop up with no advanced notice that a certain provider is suddenly in my area for a few days. Granted, some providers (Victor Powers is a good example) post their travel schedule weeks in advance, and it’s much appreciated. But is the lack of posting the fault of individual providers or of the sites (and some complicated rules)? There are providers with whom I would’ve liked to make contact, if I’d known in advance they would be in my city, whether at home or on vacation.

 

I’d encourage you to do a filtered search on RentMen for “Visitors Only,” as this will show you all the providers coming to town which may have otherwise had little visibility on the grid for whatever reason.

 

Speaking personally, I prefer giving little notice and not weeks and weeks because that results in a slew of inquiries a month (or more) old that don’t come to fruition. For me (with the exception of overnights/weekends) the further out arrangements are being made to meet, the less likely it is to happen. On a rare occasion someone may still be eager to meet you when you’re local two months later, but not often. Additionally, putting an ad in a travel destination will have you positioned in that cities’ grid for however far out your trip is, people will begin to think you’re a staple in the city and overlook your ad. I reap more rewards with “surprise attacks” because you’re “new” in town.

Edited July 31, 2019 by hypothetically

[Shawn Monroe]

Couldn’t providers just put their travel dates on the text of the ad?

As @MrMattBig said, very few clients read ad text. Every time I’m visiting a new city, on rentmen and rentmasseur, I change my headline to the city I’m visiting and the dates and still get questions.

 

Masseurfinder will no longer let you change your headline (they’re all now ‘’massage by [name]”) and they filter out anything not relevant to massage (so no longer can you put the cities and travel dates in the text.)

 

I tried advertising outcalls only once in one city and it didn’t work.

 

And at the top of every one of my ads I mention I’m available nights and weekends in atlanta as I have a 9-5, and still get guys disappointed that I can’t meet in the mornings.

[+ ButchAtl]

I think most clients appreciate when providers who have limitations on availability put their available times on their ad, such as @Shawn Monroe mentioned. Some providers do have "day" jobs, but fail to mention in their ad they're only available nights, and maybe weekends, until contacted.

[+ Mplsgymguy]

Some providers do have "day" jobs, but fail to mention in their ad they're only available nights, and maybe weekends, until contacted.

 

Another good point. Thanks, ButchAtl, and thanks to everyone who responded for their insights. This explains a lot that I’ve been wondering about.

[Mocha]

I’d encourage you to do a filtered search on RentMen for “Visitors Only,” as this will show you all the providers coming to town which may have otherwise had little visibility on the grid for whatever reason.

 

Speaking personally, I prefer giving little notice and not weeks and weeks because that results in a slew of inquiries a month (or more) old that don’t come to fruition. For me (with the exception of overnights/weekends) the further out arrangements are being made to meet, the less likely it is to happen. On a rare occasion someone may still be eager to meet you when you’re local two months later, but not often.

 

Once in awhile, I may advertise in a city that I want to visit in the near future...and pick up some interest. If I do, I don’t answer any phone calls from that city’s area code, because I know they’re going to be asking if I’m there now. I just text and email.

 

I call it, commercial breaks. It’s like advertising which city the February Super Bowl is going to be in, but it’s only November. Yes, it’s 3 months away, but we’re going to nudge you to buy that 60” TV, and nudge you to save for that plane ticket now “in case” your team is going.

 

Btw, I just noticed Miami got picked AGAIN to host the Super Bowl next year. Last time I was there during Super Bowl, all of South Beach was closed off. It ends up being more of a “all sexes” gay pride weekend ??‍♂️

[crushme99]

. . . it’s very frustrating to see an ad pop up with no advanced notice that a certain provider is suddenly in my area for a few days. . . . There are providers with whom I would’ve liked to make contact, if I’d known in advance they would be in my city, whether at home or on vacation.

 

I understand and appreciate the replies from providers and "thanks," guys. You raise several good points. However, I share Mplsgymguy's frustration. I live in an area of Minnesota where travel to a major city is the only way to do a meet-up. It's frustrating when top-quality muscle I have been wanting time with just pops up in a city I enjoy (hint hint, Vegas) and, of course, their window of opportunity doesn't match mine. There's probably no good answer to the situation, but I'm afraid some of us can get branded as mere Looky Lous or flakes when short notice shoots our hopes down in flames. Ah well, such is life.

[GTMike]

This is an interesting question and situation and i respect all the escort's and client's responses, frustrations and rationales. Again i feel like as a client, i may be in the minority as i always make contact and establish a rapport with an escort well in advance and usually make arrangements weeks if not even a few months in advance, when i see they could be visiting my city. In my baby time of hiring, (just over 3 1/2 years), i can't recall ever meeting up with an escort, (that is for the first time), the same day that we initially became acquainted. I think maybe I'm missing out though, hahaha

[TruthBTold]

I am not sure whether Rentmen, etc. do this accurately and continuously but I appreciate when the escort's full time "residence" is denoted. Sometimes clients are of the type where they wish to establish a rapport with a working guy and see him continually. However the ads don't list where his hometown is. Of course, I realize that he may be out-of-town at any particular time but much of time you can see that if their traveling schedule is listed accurately. I do realize that there are symbols for this sort of thing but often they are there or they are wrong.

[Trick]

 

I do realize that there are symbols for this sort of thing but often they are there or they are wrong.

 

If only “truth in advertising” laws applied to escort ads. One of the reasons providers are bombarded with so many questions is because most ads are ambiguous. I hate seeing ads where all the boxes are checked on the “Into” section. If you’ve been following the ads for some time, you’ll know that they change their “Home” cities to their present location. How accurate and effective are the “Near Travel” sections? They never worked for me.

 

As a client, I try not to ask for information that is already on the ad. But from experience, half the information there is untrue and incomplete and the only way to know for certain is to ask. But when I ask too many questions, I’m called a time waster.

 

I’m not dissing on escorts here. I’m just expressing my wish for better and clearer communication between clients and providers.

[hypothetically]

If you’ve been following the ads for some time, you’ll know that they change their “Home” cities to their present location. How accurate and effective are the “Near Travel” sections? They never worked for me.

 

RentMen will not allow you to change your home location to another city outside the country unless you submit a request. If this were the case stateside, and everyone’s home location were actually reflective of where they lived (as they would be unable to switch their home location and only utilize the travel feature), I think it would alleviate a lot of confusion.

[Trick]

RentMen will not allow you to change your home location to another city outside the country unless you submit a request. If this were the case stateside, and everyone’s home location were actually reflective of where they lived (as they would be unable to switch their home location and only utilize the travel feature), I think it would alleviate a lot of confusion.

 

Unfortunately, that is not the case. I just treat home location on RM as the escort’s current location.

[+ VictorPowers]

It's not that there are complicated rules. It's how the sites display when you're in a city.

 

Masseurfinder does a good job of denoting when a guy is coming soon vs when he's actually in a city, but RentMen and RentMasseur are rather terrible in that regard - their icons (home base, near travel, currently visiting, and soon to visit) are hard to decipher. Not only that, but RentMen will make it seem like you're in a city up to 30 days before you're actually supposed to be there - Masserfinder, it's 7 days before.

 

With most guys wanting to meet that very second they contact us, we often find ourselves messaging "Hi there - I'm not currently in [x city]. My ad says I'm currently in [y city] and I'll be in [x city] from [date a] to [date b]. Would you like to meet while I'm in town?" more often than booking actual appointments, and to save some of the hassle, many will post their ads when they get to a city (most of our trips are front loaded anyway and most guys want to meet the first day we're in town).

 

All that said, I still prefer to advertise ahead of time - that way I know if I'll at least have a gauge of how a trip will turn out, and whether or not i need to take the trip in the first place.

My go to reply these days goes something like “Which city are you asking about?” Then once that’s out of the way, I confirm my dates for that city with them so we are on the same page.

[Trick]

My go to reply these days goes something like “Which city are you asking about?” Then once that’s out of the way, I confirm my dates for that city with them so we are on the same page.

 

When I see an escort I like in an ad for my city, knowing how RM works, my first text is, “Hi buddy, are you in [name of city]? I’m interested in meeting when you come for a visit.”

 

That usually gets the text exchange going.

[Boink]

I also hate it when a visiting escort abruptly leaves my city with no notice. Not knowing how long the escort will be in town makes it hard to plan dates.

[+ Kman]

I don't know how you are doing your searches @Mplsgymguy but if you do a general search of your city in rentmen it shows the providers that are coming to your city given that they have put it in their ad...but if you do just a 'near me' search you just get whoever is in the city now. In my experience it seems the ones that pop up unexpectedly in a city end up being fake...not all the time of course

[GTMike]

Another good point. Thanks, ButchAtl, and thanks to everyone who responded for their insights. This explains a lot that I’ve been wondering about.

Oh and by the way on RentMen, you should "Buddylist" ones you're interested on your account and check the "buddylist activities" if you hadn't already done that. As soon as they list a particular city they anticipate visiting even months in advance you'll be able to see it in the activities tab and plan accordingly.

[+ Keith30309]

Oh and by the way on RentMen, you should "Buddylist" ones you're interested on your account and check the "buddylist activities" if you hadn't already done that. As soon as they list a particular city they anticipate visiting even months in advance you'll be able to see it in the activities tab and plan accordingly.

Where is “Buddylist activities”? I use the web RM - not the app - but don’t see Activities any where.

Thanks

[GTMike]

Where is “Buddylist activities”? I use the web RM - not the app - but don’t see Activities any where.

Thanks

And likewise. I use the web version. At least on mine if you go to the general home search function, there are standard icons on the bottom of the site. Starting from left going right on the bottom of the screen there is a "Home icon", then the "Mail icon", then "notifications", then "My Buddies", then a few more going on the bottom of the screen. When you are perusing profiles you can "buddylist" people that you are interested in and then when you go to the "My Buddies" section there are tabs towards the top. Again going from left to right, there are 4 "tabs" titled, 1) "My Buddy's" which lists all the profiles you've added, then 2) "Online Buddy's" so you can real time see which of them are currently online in their profile, then 3) Blocked Users, which lists profiles you may have blocked and then 4) "Buddylist Activities". When you go into that tab it will list historically when a profile makes any changes like adding new pictures or that profile gets a review or changes their city and lists their travel. Hopefully this is making sense hahaha. It's possible maybe these are features for the "premium" account and that could be why it's not showing up for you? But i don't think so. Check it out and lemme know what you see and if you have any other questions we can take this to PM so not to bug others. Hahaha

[+ Keith30309]

And likewise. I use the web version. At least on mine if you go to the general home search function, there are standard icons on the bottom of the site. Starting from left going right on the bottom of the screen there is a "Home icon", then the "Mail icon", then "notifications", then "My Buddies", then a few more going on the bottom of the screen. When you are perusing profiles you can "buddylist" people that you are interested in and then when you go to the "My Buddies" section there are tabs towards the top. Again going from left to right, there are 4 "tabs" titled, 1) "My Buddy's" which lists all the profiles you've added, then 2) "Online Buddy's" so you can real time see which of them are currently online in their profile, then 3) Blocked Users, which lists profiles you may have blocked and then 4) "Buddylist Activities". When you go into that tab it will list historically when a profile makes any changes like adding new pictures or that profile gets a review or changes their city and lists their travel. Hopefully this is making sense hahaha. It's possible maybe these are features for the "premium" account and that could be why it's not showing up for you? But i don't think so. Check it out and lemme know what you see and if you have any other questions we can take this to PM so not to bug others. Hahaha

Ahha

Buddylist Activities shows up on Rent.men but not on rentmen.eu.