Question About Rates

[TrumpCoupTommy]

Hi. I'm new to the site, and I have a question about rates. What is the "going rate" for extended trips, of say close to a week in duration? I would be interested in hearing from both escorts and clients. Escorts, what do you generally charge for lengthy appointments, and clients, what do you feel is reasonable compensation when you book someone for close to a week?

 

What are some of the factors that might have a bearing on such rates?

 

Thanks a lot for the feedback.

[+ deej]

Welcome to the site!

 

This has come up before, of course, and discussion can become quite spirited. You might want to use the site's search feature to see what went before. But the only absolutely iron-clad answer to your question is:

 

It depends.

 

Some escorts have pre-determined fixed rates for extended visits and won't budge on them. These rates vary widely from individual to individual. Others will play it by ear weighing various conditions.

 

As a client, I won't book an extended visit with an escort unless I've been with him before and know that we're compatible. Nothing could be worse than being cooped up with someone you find out you actually don't like. It could wreck a vacation. I have to think there's a similar thought process going through an escort's head.

 

You need to clearly communicate your expectations to the escort and ask their interest. If the destination is something they'd enjoy, you might get a price break. If you have a history of being a needy, rude bitch who wants a hardon-on-demand, 24x7, the price might go up.

 

These are just a few out of thousands of considerations. There are way too many variables for a "rule of thumb" to exist.

[TrumpCoupTommy]

Thanks for the welcome deej :-)

 

And thanks for your feedback. What you said makes good sense.

 

I'll look and see if I can't find some past information on this. as you suggested.

 

Thanks again.

[JT Brooklyn]

Trump...Welcome :-) Exactly what deej said!

[+ ArVaGuy]

Welcome to the site.

 

Deej pretty much summed up the rate question. Try rooting around in the Ask An Escort section for tons of information on this and other issues. Also, don't worry about asking questions even if they have been asked before. Everyone is new here at least once (or more than once for some of us.)

 

I would suggest that you hire any guy you are considering for an extended travel situation at least a couple of times. You need to make sure you are both are compatible and going into a situation like this is asking for headaches if things don't go well.

 

My practice is to hire a guy a few times for 2 or 3 hour sessions. If that goes well then I'll consider the escort for an overnight. By the time I'm considering trip with a guy there's a level of comfort for both of us that makes things much easier.

 

 

 

(Note to moderators: Perhaps this topic should be moved to Ask An Escort section? Just a suggestion. :-) )

[Louis]

Welcome Trump.

I agree with the others. Also don't get too caught up with looks. There are a secveral very, very handsome escorts who have great personalities, out there, and then there are some not quite as handsome or maybe as ripped muscle wise, yet they provide an excellent service. Many people look better in person than they do in their pictures, which is a plus. So if some people charge more than your budget allows, shop around. Tell them what your plans are, and be specific as to what you expect and want to do.

So decide what you want...do you need an expensive escort to fill your need, or will a lower priced escort give you the company you want.

Louis

[Guest zipperzone]

Since the client will be paying for all expenses, including airfare, the absolute maximum I would pay would be $5000 - and I think there should be quite a few escorts out there who would be willing to do it for $3000. After all, they probably don't make that per week on a regular basis and they are getting a 1st class holiday as a bonus.

 

Am I out to lunch?

[JT Brooklyn]

zip..No matter how you look at it..."Tax Free Income" to put into their Safety Deposit Box, alway's puts the Working Guy ahead of the Game! LOL

 

At $250 an hour or $500 a Day, $3500 a week for the Full Time Working Guys...Plus OTHER Travel Frills...Sounds Great to some!

 

BUT..Their are still the Guys who will want 5K for 7 days....and although Unbelieveable to ME..Will get it!

 

And People wonder why it is "so hard" for some of the Working Guys to Retire! This is the reason there are alot of 75 year old Lawyer's & Doctor's Not wanting to Retire! LOL

[TrumpCoupTommy]

>Since the client will be paying for all expenses, including

>airfare, the absolute maximum I would pay would be $5000 - and

>I think there should be quite a few escorts out there who

>would be willing to do it for $3000. After all, they probably

>don't make that per week on a regular basis and they are

>getting a 1st class holiday as a bonus.

>

>Am I out to lunch?

 

It's very interesting Zipper and JT that you guys should mention the figures you did. I've been in touch with several guys recently, including a couple well known here. Some are adamanat in asking for 5K (or more) for a 5-or 6-night date. By the time I add in plane tickets, lodging, food, entertainment, and whatever else it gets pretty pricey for me. 3 or 3.5K seems pretty sweet (and equitable), considering it's probably tax-free income, and all expenses are paid, plus the nice vacation I'm providing.

 

I'm a believer in free enterprise, and if some of these guys can command 5K or more for 5/6 nights, more power to them. It's just more than I care to spend.

 

Thanks Zipper and JT and the rest of you for your comments, all helpful to me.

[Louis]

Let me compare this situation to a friend who collects slides of train pictures. There is a mutual friend who was selling a slide for 20 dollars. The norm is one or two dollars, maybe five for something not too common. Anyways one or two guys were complaining about the price... I basically told them, and I think it applies here....the more interested you are in something the more you are willing to pay. So maybe you spot a guy, for some reason there is something about him that turns you on.... you end up paying more than others would pay for such a service, because he is appealing to you.

So maybe to one guy a certain fee it out of bounds, but to another, who is cutting notches on his bed post...:-) its worth it.

My income is probably the lowest of anyone who frequents this list, so while I would like to be able to hire certain guys, it will probably never happen. That being said, I have had great times with those who do not command fee's beyond my reach.

Also having moved to where I live now, I may only be able to see one mabye two escorts a year.....Winnipeg is a dead issue. I learned my lesson....no sense in hiring a local there, escorts there simply are not the same calibur of those who work in Toronto (or anywhere else for that matter). So that leaves Minneapolis, or some other city which is even further away.

I do have something in the works for July, and its one of those situations where an escort who lives in Toronto is very interested in sightseeing along the North Shore of Lake Superior, and is going to accompany me (for a remarkable rate, which he volunteered...no negotiating) on my drive to Toronto.

Louis

[TrumpCoupTommy]

>Let me compare this situation to a friend who collects slides

>of train pictures. ...the more interested you are in

>something the more you are willing to pay.

 

I like your train analogy. If a particular guy turns me on big time (for whatever reason), I would be willing to pay more to acquire his services. No problem there.

[Guest zipperzone]

>I'm a believer in free enterprise, and if some of these guys

>can command 5K or more for 5/6 nights, more power to them.

>It's just more than I care to spend.

 

There is one factor not to be discounted. There are many gays who are rich beyond truth, either from inherited money or by virtue of their being exceptionally good at what they do for a living, think David Geffen or Barry Diller for example. (Now I'm sure there is a certain member here who will leap to tell us how well he knows these two - oh well - shit happens)

 

For these guys, money is nothing but figures in a ledger and they can afford to pay whatever is demanded if they really want the product bad enough. For them, paying $5000 (or even $10000) is like you or I laying down 20 bucks.

 

So if an escort is atractive enough and has the personality that appeals to a certain individual, then the likes of you and I won't stand a snowball's chance in hell - it's no contest.

[Guest justinwakefield]

This is a very frank and astute letter... I am in total agreement with this gentleman about the various factors involved. For example, when I worked for an agency in NYC one consideration was age. I was 25yo and generally speaking (no one likes to generalize, but there it is!) the younger guys (ie. 18-21) were often compensated MORE 10K for a week's getaway (a hefty chunk going to the agency, of course) because the fact remains that a great # of guys are obsessed with youthful beauty.

 

I think it is also a LOT to expect someone to go away with you without first getting to know the person. As was previously stated, if the individual hiring is a decent person and enjoyable to be around, I am definitely open to dropping my rates. For me, the absolutely minimum I would go away for an entire week would be five thousand dollars. That said, I have a Meditteranean cruise on offer this August (God knows WHY my client wants to go then!) but I am open to compromising simply because the guy is extremely sweet and treats me like gold. That said, why do this type of work if you are not making enough money to retire from it after a few years of hard work and proper investing?

 

One final aside: If someone is loaded (and has the ego to go with it!) I am going to request 5 figures without batting one of my pretty, big eyelashes... because I know I'll have to put up with countless B.S.!

[Guest novabear22031]

First time poster here myself.

 

>Welcome to the site!

 

<snip>

 

>Some escorts have pre-determined fixed rates for extended

>visits and won't budge on them. These rates vary widely from

>individual to individual. Others will play it by ear weighing

>various conditions.

 

That is true. I found a companion here (based on reviews) that offered a "weekend rate"; but was able to extend that rate for an extended vacation. It made it "affordable" for me to have him join me.

 

This was my first time in hiring a companion/escort.

 

>As a client, I won't book an extended visit with an escort

>unless I've been with him before and know that we're

>compatible. Nothing could be worse than being cooped up with

>someone you find out you actually don't like. It could wreck a

>vacation. I have to think there's a similar thought process

>going through an escort's head.

 

I agree to an extent. The companion I hired spent many hours emailing and chatting on the phone before and after the booking. Since many companions/escorts "book"only for "time" and nothing else being promised - I was comfortable with the situation. We never met prior to our first meeting.

 

What made it easier for me was that we met up at the airport. He already had plans that after the trip he was going to stay behind in the city we met in. So we both had an out at the airport. Neither of backed out after our first meeting.

 

Yes, it can be a mixed bag. I will say on my part there was miscues and mixed emotions on the trip. Maybe deep inside, I hoped for two or more a day "encounters". In the end it was like once or twice a day (if I were lucky - he was the perfect man for me. Even if just for this trip. Just talking with him, looking at him at times made me hard).

 

Perhaps we bonded too much in the beginning.

 

>You need to clearly communicate your expectations to the

>escort and ask their interest. If the destination is something

>they'd enjoy, you might get a price break. If you have a

>history of being a needy, rude bitch who wants a

>hardon-on-demand, 24x7, the price might go up.

 

Right on so many points.

 

But the question is one for how we as clients communicate our desires with companion/escorts that don't want to talk about details/expectations?

 

>These are just a few out of thousands of considerations. There

>are way too many variables for a "rule of thumb" to exist.

 

So right you are.

 

It has been four days since my "companion" parted ways. I can't help to keep smiling about our time together. It may have not met all of my sexual needs/desires - but it did meet my need/desire for someone to share sometime with.

 

He sent me an email welcoming me home - even before my flight landed! We have shared a few emails since then. No fantasy on my part of something bigger between us. I think he and I understand perfectly the business and personal side of the issue. And perhaps there is a happy balance between the two. Only time will tell.

 

But in the end one has to decide on the expectations. In my case, I am happy overall on how things turned out. It was just what I needed to find my "center" in life.

 

If/when I were to rehire him (and if he were more local to me - I would hire him in NY minute) - we have a better understanding of our desires/needs.

[Guest novabear22031]

>Welcome Trump.

>I agree with the others. Also don't get too caught up with

>looks. There are a secveral very, very handsome escorts who

>have great personalities, out there, and then there are some

>not quite as handsome or maybe as ripped muscle wise, yet they

>provide an excellent service. Many people look better in

>person than they do in their pictures, which is a plus.

<snip>

>Louis

 

So true.

 

My own experience showed me that is sometimes what is in the heart of a person.

 

My "companion" did match the photos I was shown. So much so I was able to pick him out at the airport on our mutual arrival times. Most of what I saw in photos was spot on. Was he the 'perfect body"? Perhaps for some, no. But neither am I. But in the end we were able to have a good time together.

 

I guess I say that, because in dating or hiring of companions/escorts, we look towards the perfect "person" - whether that is on a physical or emotional level. Maybe more so on the physical level. The "slightest" imperfection sends us running.

 

My first experience showed me that it is possible to have both.

[+ purplekow]

>>

>. Maybe deep inside, I

>hoped for two or more a day "encounters". In the end it was

>like once or twice a day (if I were lucky - he was the perfect

>man for me. Even if just for this trip. Just talking with him,

>looking at him at times made me hard).

>

>We as clients should be clear if we need more than one or two encounters in a day. After all, for me, any man I hire will likely get me hard looking at him. It is likely that this is not true for the escort looking at me. Since he has more of the work to do in terms of generating the excitement and getting excited, it is not surprising that he might initiate fewer encounters than I might desire, left to his own devices. So for we clients with large sexual appetites, being forthright is the best policy. "I am very horny, you get me horny, and I want as much sex as you can give me so don't be surprised if I am angling for it day and night, awake and asleep, standing, seated, lying down, indoors, outdoors, winter, spring summer and fall." This should make it clear that while dinner, sight-seeing, a night of clubbing and a romantic walk along the beach are all nice, that the deal isn't sealed for you until someone is invoking God's name.

[Guest novabear22031]

>We as clients should be clear if we need more than one or two

>encounters in a day. After all, for me, any man I hire will

>likely get me hard looking at him. It is likely that this is

>not true for the escort looking at me. Since he has more of

>the work to do in terms of generating the excitement and

>getting excited, it is not surprising that he might initiate

>fewer encounters than I might desire, left to his own devices.

 

I can relate to this very well. But in the end my companion made me feel better about myself in many ways. Maybe not in the deeper sexual/physical way I had hoped/dreamed of. But better in other ways.

 

As I have said before, he like many others made it very clear that it was for time only. Anything else is discussed as two consenting adults. Going with that I accepted that we could have ended up as only travel buddies.

 

To that end, he surprised me as I was trying to unpack our luggage for the trip.He was the one that made the first moves. We both had very early flights, he more rested than I. He came, I didn't (no matter for me). Afterwards he laid upon my body. I could swear that he was ready to fall asleep. It was a perfect start for the trip.

 

But for some reason that "magic" was not something that would continue. Not to say that our "private" times were not fun. But the expectation level I felt in our first encounter set was not quite the same in our other encounters.

 

For we are talking about fantasies based on our needs/desires, and what we have read/talked about those we hire.

 

> So for we clients with large sexual appetites, being

>forthright is the best policy. "I am very horny, you get me

>horny, and I want as much sex as you can give me so don't be

>surprised if I am angling for it day and night, awake and

>asleep, standing, seated, lying down, indoors, outdoors,

>winter, spring summer and fall." This should make it clear

>that while dinner, sight-seeing, a night of clubbing and a

>romantic walk along the beach are all nice, that the deal

>isn't sealed for you until someone is invoking God's name.

 

I don't consider myself as having a large sexual appetite. To my companion's credit, we never seemed to keep count on whom came when. When we did "connect" it was about the person being pleased. In many ways it was like being on a date. And in some ways very special.

 

But I also know that if I am wanting a more sexual experience, I need to be more up front.

[Guest]

I will repeat what others have mentioned: do not ever hire someone for a long-term hire unless you've hired them short-term first, for many reasons. Beyond the obvious of needing to know you're compatible first, you should also be able to get a much better rate than the one he'll quote on his website if you two get along. It is unusual for escorts to get more than two hourly hires per day, so if you two like each other, you're going someplace he wants to go, and your expectations of him during the trip aren't too demanding, you should be able to find an escort who'll go for no more than a 2-hour rate per day plus expenses (again, that's assuming there's some mutual compatibility). Some high-end escorts might not budge, but you should be able to find someone you like who will negotiate a far more reasonable rate than these rather off-the-wall daily rates I see many escorts advertise.

[TrumpCoupTommy]

Just to follow up, I wound up talking with a few guys about my upcoming vacation, and eventually narrowed it down to two guys. Both young (early 20's), both relatively new to the business, but both with a couple of reviews. Both initially quoted a rate of ~5K for the week's trip. I indicated my budget was about 1/3 less than that, and both were agreeable. I made a decision between the two. Vacation starts tomorrow :-)

 

We've not met before, which I know violates cardinal rule #1 for many clients, and escorts as well. Yet I'm confident things will go well- I'm very excited about the trip. I received what I consider an equitable rate, and my companion is going to enjoy a very nice all expense-paid vacation and receive a nice chunk of change.

 

Not having previously met this young man adds to the excitement of the whole event for me. But that's just me. :9

 

 

>Since the client will be paying for all expenses, including

>airfare, the absolute maximum I would pay would be $5000 - and

>I think there should be quite a few escorts out there who

>would be willing to do it for $3000. After all, they probably

>don't make that per week on a regular basis and they are

>getting a 1st class holiday as a bonus.

>

>Am I out to lunch?