Escort on Escort Violence ...

[RockHard]

RE: Working it long and hard.

 

"Let's not forget some Guy's have been "Working It" for along time! IF they haven't learned certain thing's by now, Apologies from them are really just a PLOY, to hang on to whatever is left of a Job!"

Readers know that I disdain cynicism but, given the nature of escorting, it would be foolish to say that no amount is justified. I do have experience with a few veteran, professional escorts who are truly great guys. Their love of life, men, fun, and sex is no act. I usually can spot an actor a mile away: I work with plenty.

 

I can't claim to know Mr. Draker well and I will never "name" my private experience on this board but I'm inclined to keep an open mind on this one. Again, this level of contrition is NOT the norm and he who is without sin, feel free to cast the first stone. (That said, I have never written on this forum in any other username.)

 

I haven't given much thought to escorts engaging in changing pseudonyms. One would think Daddy would have a grip on IP address antics and ban any escort who engages in such crap. Maybe it's time to consider implementing new rules (or enforcing old ones). Even in the presence of competition, exposing a bad-apple-escort will simply raise the bar of site integrity.

 

Hmmm, maybe zipperzone is really Tom Isern. They both seem to like the word IDIOT a lot.

[+ Lucky]

RE: Shameful Episode !

 

I deleted my original response because it seemed to me that this discussion was going nowhere. The "camps: have set their sights and readied for battle. Escort bashing is a huge thing here (Adler, Nicholas, Munroe, Isern, all get bashed regularly) and so it is no wonder that Draker would feel the need to create a different screen name to post non-business thoughts. But to create another name just to attack is another thing. But it looks like no one who discusses this is going to change their opinion. Deej didn't take Draker to task, Rock Hard just uses it as an opporunity to bash Scott and me. Isern will be next. So nothing is going to change. Draker will just create a new name and there we go again.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

RE: No excuse, SIR !

 

*bites tongue*

 

Touché Deej... touché

 

 

 

BN

[RockHard]

RE: Shameful is right.

 

And WE ALL KNOW Lucky knows PHONY. (Have you found Rico yet, dear?)

[+ Lucky]

RE: Rock Hard is right.

 

"And WE ALL KNOW Lucky knows PHONY."

 

Well, I haven't met you yet.

 

(Have you found Rico yet, dear?)

 

He was your best friend, you find him!

[SAdler]

RE: Stephen Draker is Wiz-boy?

 

>How utterly tacky to judge a gentleman's apology as "not

>enough." Scott Adler, you remind my why I refuse to live in

>L.A.: it's very hard to find good men there.

 

How utterly tacky of you to tell me what I need to accept as an apology for attacks against me and none against you. Frankly in response to our recent private dispute, your pompous attitude in this post an others are the final straw in which I will do "the only thing that would upset you." Good riddance.

 

>I can't remember the last time I read such fervent contrition.

>But, sadly, it appears to be not enough for Scott. Does Scott

>Adler ever have enough? Is he ever satisfied?

 

Again, it's not for YOU to decide what is enough or valid in an apology when the apology is not to you. As I pointed out:

 

(1) The apologies timing came in with perfect timing to follow a possible pass on Draker for work

(2) As Arlington pointed out above, the apology is a copout

(3) If you BOTHERED to read my initial response it said that I appreciated (in essence) accepted THAT part of his apology but I wanted clarification on the above mentioned aspects of it

(4) What about Rick and JT. Why did he leave them out? But no, you can never leave anything alone without making it dramatic either.

 

>If I were Scott, I'd graciously accept Mr. Draker's apology

>and drop the whole thing. But we know that won't happen

>because Scott can never get enough.

 

You're not me so obviously it's not you issue. But since you're not involved IN ANY WAY you have to MAKE it about you because as we all know it's always about RockHard and he has to be the center of attention. Get over it especially when it has nothing to do with YOU.

 

>I don't recall IceFireWizard ever saying anything terribly

>scandalous but I remember Scott's uproar over my "insider"

>reference to a tiny pot belly. What was supposed to be a cute,

>innocent joke turned into a bloated, self-indulgent, 3000-view

>diatribe, with Scott stoking the flames. As if a little body

>fat might ruin his career. (such VIOLENCE!)

 

MY ONLY RESPONSE TO YOU IN THAT THREAD:

 

"Thanks to everyone who has posted thus far. Rockhead....er...Rock Hard needs to stop thinking he has more insight into life than he actually does.

 

In a private email when he said he'd consider seeing me on this NY trip I told him it wasn't in his best interest because I had gotten a tad chubby after 3 weeks of finals, vacations, and non stop pride parties causing me to miss the gym...

 

That was about two weeks before I took those pictures I guarantee that at the moment Miranda Priestly herself would have nothing but a double nod for me. ( wearing Prada)

 

Sorry to dissapoint you if my reality bores you but as you said in YOUR email ... "I like a little pot belly on a cute boy." Good luck"

 

After that post and a back and forth cute banter with IceFire that issue was put to rest. Oh but wait. RockHard is blowing things up again to make himself seem more important than he is ... there's a shocker.

 

>I'm not excusing Mr. Draker's poor choices but, let's be

>honest: in the scheme of things, this isn't a big deal. I'm

>stunned and very impressed with Mr. Draker's apology (very

>rare on these boards) and I'm disappointed in Mr. Adler's

>refusal to accept it graciously. Who gets my wallet? That's a

>no-brainer.

 

Isn’t a big deal for whom? For you a consumer completely outside of the issue with IRRELEVANT views on how I should feel? His apology was an attempt to cover his own ass and lord knows how many loose threads it left which is what I was addressing.

 

Your disappointment means little to nothing to me after posts like this and our recent correspondence. Should your wallet be Gucci, Prada, LaCroix, or anything else you purport it be, I’ve established that I have no interest in it so feel free to share it with whomever you’d like.

 

>For some people, forgiveness is harder than offering an

>apology. And since no man is perfect, I'd rather play with the

>atoner than hang with the man unwilling to forgive.

 

I agree. Forgiveness is very difficult but the point you forget to distinguish is an apology of merit and that of convenience.

[SAdler]

RE: Shameful Episode !

 

>The "camps: have set their

>sights and readied for battle. Escort bashing is a huge thing

>here (Adler, Nicholas, Munroe, Isern, all get bashed

>regularly) and so it is no wonder that Draker would feel the

>need to create a different screen name to post non-business

>thoughts.

 

I guess this means you and I are finally in the same camp. Politics does make strange bedfellows ... wanna share a sleeping bag.

[SAdler]

RE: No excuse, SIR !

 

::tapping foot::

 

waiting. From what I can assume Donnie is an old poster but not getting the glasshouses commentary.

[+ Lucky]

RE: New Episode !

 

I'd rather share that cabin with you and Jason!

[SAdler]

RE: New Episode !

 

Well I know Royal always has last minute cancellations ... keep checking and you just might

[RockHard]

RE: VIOLENT attacks

 

"How utterly tacky of you to tell me what I need to accept as an apology for attacks against me"

Well, like I predicted. She can't handle anything she can't control.

 

You mean VIOLENT attacks, don't you, Scott? Oh girl, take a breath. No one is more dramatic than you on this board. There's nothing more emasculating than a banshee escort queen on a yapping rampage.

 

"Frankly in response to our recent private dispute, your pompous attitude in this post an others are the final straw in which I will do "the only thing that would upset you." Good riddance."

Private dispute? No dispute on this end. I don't ever take you that seriously. I will miss you, dear, but think of how many Pradas I can buy. Wait till I tell Bruce.

 

"What about Rick and JT. Why did he leave them out?"

They're certainly not screaming as loudly as you. And nor did they start their own "public" thread with their very own bitch fest. Keep checking those view numbers, dear. I'm sure you won't be satisfied until Draker ends his life or goes into hiding. Wait a minute, you'll never be satisfied. So here we stand. When you rant like this, I see no difference between you and the wolves who started escortspeak, and they weren't respectable escorts. (Is that an oxymoron?)

 

"You're not me"

And that's why I began my statement with "If."

 

"as we all know it's always about RockHard and he has to be the center of attention."

Silly boy. Step away from the mirror. I think you're jealous that I have more designer labels in my closet than you. Shall we compare how many celebrities we've fucked and who got more money?

 

I can't believe you brought up a quote from that banshee-pot belly thread. Wait a minute, of course I believe it. Are you the only member here permitted to exaggerate to make a simple point? :-)

 

"Isn’t a big deal for whom?"

Sweetie, it's no big deal for anyone but you. Nobody died here or contracted AIDS from an IFW post. You're losing your attractiveness with each new rant. Go visit a beauty salon, your hair needs straightening.

 

"His apology was an attempt to cover his own ass"

And you've never had to cover yours? Are you really that perfect?

 

"Your disappointment means little to nothing to me"

I'm crushed. At least you left room for hope by saying "little to no." I think I may have to acquire an eating disorder. I can't bear the fact that you're reminding me of Tom Isern, and we all know what a turn-off he is.

 

"I agree. Forgiveness is very difficult but the point you forget to distinguish is an apology of merit and that of convenience."

Well, thank you JUDGE Judy Adler! Forgiveness is only difficult for a selfish hard-head, who believes he's perfect and never does anything wrong. I'm not convinced Draker's apology is without merit, no matter how much you bitch, scream and yell, "Foul!"

 

The fact is, Stephen Draker DID NOT NEED TO ADMIT that he was IceFireWizard. If this had been a serious offense, any reputable attorney would have advised Mr. Draker to say nothing. As long as you NEVER admit a wrong-doing, guilt can never be solid without absolute proof.

 

The fact that Stephen Draker put forth an apology, WHEN HE DID NOT HAVE TO, and quite an extensive one at that, proves to me he's less shady and character-less than others on this board.

 

As for the quality of character you've displayed on this very public board, Mr. Adler, I remain disappointed. Too bad you don't care.

[SAdler]

RE: VIOLENT attacks

 

>You mean VIOLENT attacks, don't you, Scott? Oh girl, take a

>breath. No one is more dramatic than you on this board.

>There's nothing more emasculating than a banshee escort queen

>on a yapping rampage.

 

So sorry you can't see through a little wording choice in the threads since your focus has been on the word violent from the beginning. I would have used "Escort on Escort Trash-Talking from Behind Pseudonyms" but we all know how verbose I am in the message of the post let alone the subject. I'll try to break out the thesaurus for you next time.

 

I would say the only thing more emasculating would be a banshee self important “star-fucking” queen causing a fuss over something he wasn’t involved in to begin with.

 

>Private dispute? No dispute on this end. I don't ever take you

>that seriously. I will miss you, dear, but think of how many

>Pradas I can buy. Wait till I tell Bruce.

 

There is a REALLY great retort to that but I’ll opt not to use it since it only devalues your comment and makes me look bad Be my guest and tell him because ANYTHING you say will of course go to (or through) me and then we can have ANOTHER exposure party. Seriously, how petty can you be? Guess we’ll find out.

 

>They're certainly not screaming as loudly as you. And nor did

>they start their own "public" thread with their very own bitch

>fest. Keep checking those view numbers, dear.

 

Interesting you bring that up. It’s all kind of starting to make sense. The point isn’t whether or not they started a bitch fest, it’s that I was merely commenting in my response to Draker (NOT YOU) that his apology to me seems forced since he doesn’t address ANYONE else he wronged. This wasn’t all about me at ANY point. Thankfully I don’t think like you and need everything to be about me.

 

>you and the wolves who started escortspeak, and they weren't

>respectable escorts. (Is that an oxymoron?)

 

Is there anyone really “WORTHY” of your respect?

 

>Silly boy. Step away from the mirror. I think you're jealous

>that I have more designer labels in my closet than you. Shall

>we compare how many celebrities we've fucked and who got more

>money?

 

At least the ones I have fit me well No, I don’t divulge information about my clients but we all know how much you’d love to regail us with the stories of which celebrities you’ve fucked so please … enlighten us.

 

>I can't believe you brought up a quote from that banshee-pot

>belly thread. Wait a minute, of course I believe it. Are you

>the only member here permitted to exaggerate to make a simple

>point? :-)

 

UH HELLO?!?! You brought it up as a point against me and I proved that like most of your postings it was irrelevant. Not to mention the fact that it proved you were completely off base in your previous comment that I went into an UPROAR against you for the comment which I showed was obviously not the case. I can’t believe you would over dramatize something like that … wait a minute, of course I believe it

>

>"Isn’t a big deal for whom?"

>Sweetie, it's no big deal for anyone but you. Nobody

>died here or contracted AIDS from an IFW post. You're losing

>your attractiveness with each new rant. Go visit a beauty

>salon, your hair needs straightening.

 

Sweetie, it’s a big deal because it calls ethics into question and shows that he did something wrong. However as I write this I am already taking on a new tone. BoN took something from my past and has decided to bring it up as his only point against me for years now almost. I would never go as far as to harp on the topic for eternity without merit. However, the difference is that my indiscretions were very much in the past and had no malicious intent where as IFW was a creation for the sole purpose of malicious attack. The point is I accepted Steven’s apology (as I already established) but I’m just saying that it comes with such convenient timing and seems forced; like he’s only apologizing BECAUSE he was caught.

 

As to my attractiveness, given what most people think about you on the board I think I might be winning a Mr. Universe in the near future.

 

>And you've never had to cover yours? Are you really that

>perfect?

 

Nobody is that perfect. If I were exposed (not volunteering information willingly) for something I would probably choose to admit fault WITHOUT attempting to justify it as Mr. Draker has done.

 

>I'm crushed. At least you left room for hope by saying "little

>to no." I think I may have to acquire an eating disorder. I

>can't bear the fact that you're reminding me of Tom Isern, and

>we all know what a turn-off he is.

 

That was a typo because of my unfortunate obsession with rhetoric. I need to work on being less wordy; it’s typically a stylistic choice of mine to write “little to no” so rest assured that your disappointment means nothing to me

 

I think Tom and I might have to have coffee in a couple weeks.

 

>Well, thank you JUDGE Judy Adler! Forgiveness is only

>difficult for a selfish hard-head, who believes he's perfect

>and never does anything wrong. I'm not convinced Draker's

>apology is without merit, no matter how much you bitch, scream

>and yell, "Foul!"

 

To err is human and forgive divine. Forgiveness is difficult for many, otherwise it wouldn’t be considered so powerful. Most Jews let it all build up for an entire year and give it all at once. Maybe I’m a little more difficult. To me forgiveness is merited by someone understanding WHAT they did wrong. An apology means nothing if you’re just going to repeat the bad act. This of course is relevant to another issue here in LaLa land but it’s pretty irrelevant now.

 

You constantly seem to be glossing over the fact that I wrote that the apology was appreciated. I didn’t realize you were the end all be all answer as to whether an apology not to you consisted of merit.

 

>The fact is, Stephen Draker DID NOT NEED TO ADMIT that he was

>IceFireWizard. If this had been a serious offense, any

>reputable attorney would have advised Mr. Draker to say

>nothing. As long as you NEVER admit a wrong-doing, guilt can

>never be solid without absolute proof.

 

You’re right, he didn’t need to admit it. It was pretty much laid out. If anything this thread was giving him a chance to redeem himself which in my eyes he’s on his way. It would be far worse for him to pull a MrSilentStar or other similar situation where an escort lays associated with a poster forever.

 

Of course a reputable attorney would say admit no fault but we’re not talking about something with legal ramifications – we’re talking about ethics. And I think it was very important and impressive of him to admit it and begin the apology process. I was merely commenting on the timing and the pieces missing from the puzzle that he left out.

 

>The fact that Stephen Draker put forth an apology, WHEN HE DID

>NOT HAVE TO, and quite an extensive one at that, proves to me

>he's less shady and character-less than others on this board.

 

Of course he had to apologize; be it for personal or occupational reasons. He got caught and he had to do something.

 

>As for the quality of character you've displayed on this very

>public board, Mr. Adler, I remain disappointed. Too bad you

>don't care.

 

[flguy]

I can't believe that I would EVER EVER EVER agree with Rockhard but he is so spot on with his analysis of Scott and this whole ordeal it's frightening. I also don't quite understand why Deej's post about "glass houses" has only been responded to by BN. Who else is Deej referring to as using additional screen names to accomplish their alter ego posts? What is the difference of escort or client hiding behind additional screen names? I also remember many posts from IFW that were helpful and courteous to other posters and I totally agree Steven was not being forced to reveal his IFW identity. There is so much mudslinging that goes on here on this board, this is just one more instance. And I guess Scott and the others have never thrown mud at anyone else. It must really be nice to be so perfect. Thanks Rockhard for your astute comments, thanks Scott for again reinforcing that I would never hire you due to your rants on this message board.

[SAdler]

No problem. If you can't handle the heat then stay out of the kitchen

 

Myself and the others aren't slinging mud in the sarcastic cases in which you refer to, we would be responding to mud thrown at us. In any case everyone ends up dirty no matter how the game is played.

 

Can't we all just get along?

[whipped guy]

RE: No excuse, SIR !

 

Re: This line of work can be stressful - you have to deal with all kinds of people. There can be days when this job is damn tough! Worse, problems at home don't always wait there silently for you.[/font color=blue]

 

Well welcome to the real world...

 

I'm sure most of us posting in this forum feel the same about our jobs and those we have to deal with on a daily basis...

 

In fact I'm sure many of us have jobs that are often like "pulling teeth"…

 

Stress, tension, and knowing how to work under pressure are aspects of life that we all need to come to grips with.

 

In fact, part of being a true professional is learning how to comport oneself under such demanding situations.

[RockHard]

RE: VIOLENCE and bullshit.

 

Yada, yada, yada...girl, you talk way too much, just like a valley girl.

 

"I need to work on being less wordy"

"Work" is the pivotal word here, dear. Do you know the meaning of the word?

 

"I would say the only thing more emasculating would be a banshee self important “star-fucking” queen causing a fuss over something"

Me causing a fuss? STEP AWAY FROM THE MIRROR! PUT THE FLAT-IRON DOWN! I didn't start this public thread and label it, "Escort on Escort Violence." Your manipulation is SO transparent. And you are shameless.

 

"Seriously, how petty can you be?"

Not nearly as petty as you.

 

"This wasn’t all about me at ANY point."

STEP AWAY FROM THE MIRROR! PUT THE FLAT-IRON DOWN! Keep yapping, sweetie.

 

"Is there anyone really “WORTHY” of your respect?"

Absolutely. Those escorts and MC members know who they are.

 

"No, I don’t divulge information about my clients"

Maybe not here on the board...

 

"You brought it up as a point against me"

Scott, you need to grow up. I've never been "against" you and you're too selfish, stubborn and immature to see that. I've always liked you regardless of my inability to put you on any pedestal.

 

"and I proved that like most of your postings it was irrelevant"

Your need to prove shit is irrelevant. You sound paranoid. Are you high?

 

"it’s a big deal because it calls ethics into question"

Is Scott Adler the same escort who allegedly sold sex when he was underage, a prime topic at the former escortspeak? Are you fucking kidding me with this pompous ethics grandstanding? Until sex-for-money is legalized and regulated, escorts are never permitted to play the ethics card.

 

"However, the difference is that my indiscretions were very much in the past and had no malicious intent where as IFW was a creation for the sole purpose of malicious attack."

He who is without sin cast the first stone. Shame on you, Scott. I'm afraid you have no idea how badly this makes you look. You're too damn stubborn for your own good.

 

"As to my attractiveness, given what most people think about you on the board"

Speaking for most people on the board are you? How tacky. I don't need approval, dear, especially from you. I speak as honestly as I can. Like it or leave it.

 

"I would probably choose to admit fault WITHOUT attempting to justify it as Mr. Draker has done."

Yet you tried to justify your indiscretions as being "very much in the past." Scott, you're a hypocrite, just like the rest of the hypocrites on this board.

 

"An apology means nothing if you’re just going to repeat the bad act."

This certainly is true when you deal with addicts. I'm giving Stephen Draker the benefit of any doubt.

 

"If anything this thread was giving him a chance to redeem himself"

With you controlling the reins. Had you taken the high road, I would have written in support of you. But you didn't take the high road.

 

"we’re talking about ethics"

Not anymore we're not. (Read above.)

 

"Of course he had to apologize"

NO HE DID NOT. But you seem very proud that you forced his hand, and all of it is ugly. Too bad you don't care.

[D.A.C.]

RE: VIOLENCE and bullshit.

 

Prostitutes,ethics,good christ they sell their asses to any mope with a few spare bucks..what ethics???

Hookers with ethics=ROTFLMFAO

[Rick Munroe]

RE: VIOLENCE and bullshit.

 

>they sell their asses to any

>mope with a few spare bucks.

 

Not the ones who are total tops!

[SAdler]

RE: VIOLENCE and bullshit.

 

>Yada, yada, yada...girl, you talk way too much, just like a

>valley girl.

 

Ooooh short angry responses … are the new underwear that you had to question the forum members about getting into a twist? Which ones are they?

 

>"Work" is the pivotal word here, dear. Do you know the meaning

>of the word?

 

Yes. Force x Distance.

 

>Me causing a fuss? STEP AWAY FROM THE MIRROR! PUT THE

>FLAT-IRON DOWN! I didn't start this public thread and label

>it, "Escort on Escort Violence." Your manipulation is SO

>transparent. And you are shameless.

 

Shameless … hmmmm. How many celebrities DO you know … if we’re going to talk SHAMELESS

 

>Not nearly as petty as you.

 

You were “threatening” to tell my boss about something on here … you always have had a penchant for the irrelevant. ::yawn::

 

>Absolutely. Those escorts and MC members know who they are.

 

But do they care …

 

>Maybe not here on the board...

 

I know I’ve gotten to you when you have to make things up to try to make me look bad …

 

“Keep yapping sweetie.”

 

>Scott, you need to grow up. I've never been "against" you and

>you're too selfish, stubborn and immature to see that. I've

>always liked you regardless of my inability to put you on any

>pedestal.

 

Selfish never … I always like my guys to cum first Stubborn of course … LEO POWER. Immature, hmmm … well that is subjective. Although I’d have to say you’re showing some pretty ugly colors at the moment.

 

>Your need to prove shit is irrelevant. You sound paranoid. Are

>you high?

 

That didn’t make sense … and you know I don’t do drugs. Trying to make up more things again I see I don’t have a need to PROVE shit irrelevant … merely point it out.

 

>Is Scott Adler the same escort who allegedly sold sex when he

>was underage, a prime topic at the former escortspeak? Are you

>fucking kidding me with this pompous ethics grandstanding?

>Until sex-for-money is legalized and regulated, escorts are

>never permitted to play the ethics card.

 

Been to Europe recently? Oh yes how silly of me. Of course you have. Everyone on this board knows that sex-for-money is one of the worlds oldest forms of occupation and that a money hungry government that can’t tax it would rather outlaw it than let it happen. I mean, otherwise how would you get laid?

 

>He who is without sin cast the first stone. Shame on you,

>Scott. I'm afraid you have no idea how badly this makes you

>look. You're too damn stubborn for your own good.

 

You just called me shameless Now I have shame? Make up your mind.

 

I’m really enjoying it actually. I haven’t had this much mail in my box because of a thread in a while But yes, as a Leo I completely admit to the stubborn factor … I’d like to think I take it to a good place though.

 

>Speaking for most people on the board are you? How tacky. I

>don't need approval, dear, especially from you. I speak as

>honestly as I can. Like it or leave it.

 

You’re right, using the word MOST was callous of me … Word Choice is on my list. I really need to pick up that thesaurus. I’ll take Violence and Most out of my vocabulary for this chat. I didn’t say you needed my approval … seems like a bit of projection considering above you’re discussing the importance of who you deem respectable. Isn’t that just a TOUCH hypocritical?

 

>Yet you tried to justify your indiscretions as being "very

>much in the past." Scott, you're a hypocrite, just like the

>rest of the hypocrites on this board.

 

That’s not a justification as much as a statement of fact. A justification would be that I was driven into it by slave traders or the pressures of my life were too much for me at that age yadda yadda. Do you know the difference between fact and justification? Well obviously fact is outside of your reach but we’ve always known that

 

>This certainly is true when you deal with addicts. I'm giving

>Stephen Draker the benefit of any doubt.

 

And I sincerely hope that you’re right about that. Wow, we agreed. Is there a trumpet somewhere?

 

>With you controlling the reins. Had you taken the high road, I

>would have written in support of you. But you didn't take the

>high road.

 

Weren’t you the one accusing me of being high already? Trust me, your support is the LAST thing on my mind.

 

>Not anymore we're not. (Read above.)

 

Nope, that’s the point of THIS thread. I don’t know what you’re reading or trying to turn it into. My thread was about whether or not I had a right to be upset and how clients feel about escorts speaking negatively about other escorts under the guise of a pseudonym. You on the other hand … well you’ve done what you tend to do

 

>NO HE DID NOT. But you seem very proud that you forced his

>hand, and all of it is ugly. Too bad you don't care.

 

Well let’s see. I could have continued to let him talk trash about myself and other escorts on this public forum. I could have messaged him privately and told him to take back all the trash he talked about me. I could have waited till the cruise and started a fight on the ship and had other angry escorts throw him overboard ... OR I could have brought it up without accusing him directly and using his name and gave him the chance to explain himself and apologize.

 

Oh yeah .. I did that. Gave him some humility and like the other threads have generated, shown that what you have done doesn’t define you nearly as much as what you are doing. Hopefully we can move on and I’ll still get that blue drink out of him You on the other hand have turned it into far bigger a production than it needed to be.

[RockHard]

RE: VIOLENCE and bullshit. Finito.

 

">Yada, yada, yada...girl, you talk way too much, just like a

valley girl.<

Ooooh short angry responses … are the new underwear getting into a twist?"

You ARE Tom Isern, girl. She likes the underwear joke, too.

 

Angry? Not me. I just can't stomach valley girl speeches.

 

"Force x Distance" = Work

Well, the Force ain't with you and you haven't gone the Distance. That means you get an F.

 

"Shameless … hmmmm. How many celebrities DO you know"

I know (and am friends with) quite a few. Tis the nature of the beast. Celebrity doesn't mean anything to me, though, so I fail to see a need for shame. But it is good for business.

 

"You were “threatening” to tell my boss"

You're boss? Who's your Daddy, girl? (I believe that one went completely over your head.) How funny.

 

">Absolutely. Those escorts and MC members know who they are.

 

But do they care …"

They seem to care much more than you do. One can never really know in this anonymous world, can one. Plus, I'm not looking for love. My life is already full.

 

Scott: >No, I don’t divulge information about my clients<

Rock: Maybe not here on the board...

Scott: "I know I’ve gotten to you when you have to make things up to try to make me look bad …"

 

Scott, dear, "getting to someone" seems to be a negative agenda you enjoy. Not a good agenda for an escort. Nobody has to make anything up to make you look bad. Your mouth does that job quite well.

 

"Stubborn of course … LEO POWER"

Some Leo's are dumber than others. I know them well.

 

"you know I don’t do drugs. Trying to make up more things again I see"

I never mentioned the word drugs. Are drugs the only way to get "high?" Your defensiveness is interesting.

 

"I mean, otherwise how would you get laid?"

I don't ever recall having a problem getting laid. Getting it up, nice and rock hard, yes. Some escorts are better at that than others. Sometimes you get what you paid for.

 

"You just called me shameless. Now I have shame?"

You are shameless and without shame. Shame on you. :-)

 

"That’s not a justification as much as a statement of fact."

Yada, yada bullshit.

 

"Trust me, your support is the LAST thing on my mind."

And everyone knows, when a used-car salesman (or anyone) begins his pitch with the words "trust me," a smart customer knows to RUN in the opposite direction. Only a fool would trust you, dear. Your contempt is in full force here. Enjoy that tea with Tom Isern. You finally found your sister. (Lights. Camera. Enter: Sally Jesse.)

 

"My thread was about..."

OH PLEASE, spare us the recaps. The shrill is deafening.

 

"You on the other hand have turned it into far bigger a production than it needed to be."

Save that line for Andrew Lloyd Weber.

 

"I’m really enjoying it (attention) actually. I haven’t had this much mail in my box because of a thread in a while"

 

And here the truth is finally revealed. Scott Adler WANTS your attention (and money) and she'll say anything she can to get that email count "high." She cannot and will not tolerate anyone else who receives more attention than her.

 

My work is done here.

[SAdler]

RE: VIOLENCE and bullshit. Finito.

 

>"You were “threatening” to tell my

>boss"

>You're boss? Who's your Daddy, girl? (I believe that one went

>completely over your head.) How funny.

 

Yes apparently, now I think you're the one who's high with these psychotic rants.

 

>Scott, dear, "getting to someone" seems to be a negative

>agenda you enjoy. Not a good agenda for an escort. Nobody has

>to make anything up to make you look bad. Your mouth does that

>job quite well.

 

Getting to someone is a defense attorney's dream. Makes them say things they didn't mean to or thought they wouldn't say. For instance, some things you have said remind me of someone else I used to speak to ... Getting to someone typically leads to getting to the truth and then exposing it

 

>I never mentioned the word drugs. Are drugs the only way to

>get "high?" Your defensiveness is interesting.

 

You asked if I was high and commented on paranoia, two symptoms connected with textbook accuracy to some illicit drugs. There's no defensiveness, your implication was pretty damned obvious.

 

>"That’s not a justification as much as a

>statement of fact."

>Yada, yada bullshit.

 

Oooh. Good one ... I'll have to use it some time

 

>"Trust me, your support is the LAST thing

>on my mind."

>And everyone knows, when a used-car salesman (or anyone)

>begins his pitch with the words "trust me," a smart customer

>knows to RUN in the opposite direction. Only a fool would

>trust you, dear. Your contempt is in full force here. Enjoy

>that tea with Tom Isern. You finally found your sister.

>(Lights. Camera. Enter: Sally Jesse.)

 

Now who's being paranoid and jaded? Sounds like you've lost faith in the integrity of the general population ... sorry to hear that.

 

>And here the truth is finally revealed. Scott Adler

>WANTS your attention (and money) and she'll say anything she

>can to get that email count "high." She cannot and will not

>tolerate anyone else who receives more attention than her.

Someone once told me that these boards are for “Advertising, discussion, whatever!” It doesn’t take a degree in psychology to see the projection at work in THAT statement. Look at your signature, all you care about it people giving you attention

 

>My work is done here

 

No force and no distance to be spoken of ... something is missing from your equation.

 

It’s nice to see that once you are backed into showing your true colors all the response you can give are insults and spite

[Guest alanm]

RE: VIOLENCE and bullshit. Finito.

 

>My work is done here.

 

Great. Let us hope you really follow through and take a long break from these long arguments with several people on this site. For such a busy and important person, you have a lot of free time to post here.

[SAdler]

RE: VIOLENCE and bullshit. Finito.

 

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[AdamSmith]

RE: VIOLENCE and bullshit.

 

>Prostitutes,ethics,good christ they sell their asses to any

>mope with a few spare bucks..what ethics???

 

OK, too good to let drop:

 

If the escort delivers what was promised, for the agreed price, what's unethical?

[+ Tom Isern]

RE: No excuse, SIR !

 

I just did a search and found that Steven Draker used his alias to say unflattering things about me as well. (And I’ve worked with him and found him enjoyable to be around too.) I'm tempted to agree with Rockhead (go figure!) that a gracious person accepts an apology. The problem, however, is that Steven apologized only to Scott. For misusing the message board he owes everyone here an apology.