No responses to emails and phone msgs - is this "normal". ?

[bbyguy]

I was recently in San Francisco. A couple of weeks before the trip, I sent out a few short emails asking the escort if he was going to be in SF on those dates so that we could set something up.

 

I contacted only those who had had favourable ratings on this site.

 

Of the 6-8 emails that I sent, I got 2 initial responses. I communicated with one of them and subsuquently met up with him.

 

When I got there, I called 6 of them to set up another session; I got hold of 2 on the phone, but they were busy. I left messages for the others and I never heard back from any of them.

 

Question to the clients on this site:

Is this normal - with the escorts not responding to emails or returning phones calls?

 

Question to the escorts:

Why would the escort not respond to the emails (some of them said they prefer initial communication via email) or not bother calling back ?

[MichiganMan]

Welcome to reality. I whinned about this very same thing over two years ago, and it has only gotten worse. Lazy would be the word that comes to mind,but, then again, that's just my opinion.....

[flguy]

Well said MM, this is pretty standard anytime as far as I am concerned. Also I probably get a little better response rate than that, but maybe 2 days later after the requested appointment date has come and gone. No one said most escorts are good businessmen. Very very few are, but usually the better reviewed ones tend to respond more quickly. I have sent two emails, one through HooBoy, to a VERY well reviewed and active message board escort in the past 10 days. Not a single response from him, this surprises me but is reality.

[+ bigjoey]

when i travel and have time restrictions or need an escort on short notice, an agency is often a better way to go. you get a quick response and they know their men's schedules. their escorts tend to be reliable and show up on time, otherwise they are out of the "stable".

 

the problem is that outside of a few major cities there are no agencies. one in san fransico does not come to mind; does anyone know of a good agency there; there must be one in a city like that.

[+ ArVaGuy]

I have sent

>two emails, one through HooBoy, to a VERY well reviewed and

>active message board escort in the past 10 days. Not a single

>response from him, this surprises me but is reality.

 

It's possible your messages got caught in a spam filter or bulk e-mail trap. My yahoo account needed a bit of tweaking to accept messages through this site. I found that some would go directly to the in box and others would go to the bulk folder.

 

Such could have been the case with the guy you contacted just to give benefit of the doubt. I contact directly with the published e-mail rather than going through the site.

[RockHard]

Maybe you should ask Tom Isern to define "normal."

 

"No one said most escorts are good businessmen."

 

Ain't that the truth. I'm continually baffled why some bother to put an ad together. I've decided most don't take this business seriously. Da..it's easy to assume why they don't.

 

I've been told some are just looking for easy money and/or sex with hot men (who are willing to pay). Some only respond when they need a little extra cash. I always ask for HIV status so some may not respond because they prefer not to reveal the truth and/or deal with my presumed response.

 

I keep a list of the non-responders and share the names with fellow friends who shop. No one in my purchasing circle is interested in playing games or doing business with a fly-by-night, no matter how hot he might be.

[jawjateck]

>Question to the clients on this site:

>Is this normal - with the escorts not responding to emails or

>returning phones calls?

 

Yep.....Sounds about right to me. Over the years, well over 50% of the email inquiries to escorts never received a response. It does not surprise me that the flakes fail to respond, but when well-reviewed guys provide absolutely no response, ever, it makes me wonder how did they become so well-reviewed. Perhaps they have changed (lost interest, no longer customer oriented, etc), and they are on the way out of the biz.

[+ Oliver]

What's "normal"?

 

Fortunately for me, my experience has been almost the opposite. I don’t have statistics, but I would say that my response rate has to be 90% or higher. For instance, I will be in Chicago next weekend and wrote to three men. I heard from all three in 24 hours or less.

 

This may be because of when, how and with whom I make contact.

• When: because most of my hiring is done when I travel (not a whole lot to choose from here ) and such plans are formulated at least a month in advance, lots of time is there for both of us. Almost all have appreciated the advance notice. I don’t recall ever getting a “Call me when you get here” response – I’d decline such a response.

• How: I write a short but comprehensive e-mail telling them where, when and for how long I would like to meet, something about me, asking for the rate for the time, and use a subject title not likely to be ignored.

• Who: almost always they are reviewed here (more than once), and/or have been recommended by Hooville compatriots; someone who appeals to me (obviously) because of pictures, expressed attitudes, etc.; and who would appear to be compatible with me.

I usually have a “backup” plan in the event of a cancellation as happened last May in NYC (wonderful Maximum! ).

 

This has worked so well for me. Of course, that response rate could change. Then I’d be as unhappy as you! ;(

[Trixie]

Perhaps this sort of thing varies from region to region... personally, I feel that the fair folk of the greater San Francisco area are trying to steal NYC's crown title of "Rudest City in the US". At least new Yorkers will be rude openly, which I find refreshing. Here in "enlightened" CA, rudeness comes in a hidden, passive- aggresive form that is felt more subliminally than openly... you often don't know that someone has smeared shit on your face, except for the quiet ache you feel in your ego as you're falling asleep at night.

 

The escorts here are notorious for not responding to e-mails. Having a peculiar fetish myself, one that needs some explaining and some "interviewing" if you will, of the prospective escort, I find e-mail to be the best,most thorough way of explaining what I am looking for, as well as finding an escort who is open and suitable to my needs.

 

I would say about 80% of those contacted do not bother to reply, even with a polite "no thank you". Of the remaining 20%, probably 15% reply with a curt "call me", rather than responding to anything I've asked them. (Percentages here are based on my own rather bizarre perception of time and space.)

 

In a nutshell, I do not care for the attitude of Bay Area escorts, in general. With many exceptions, of course.

 

La Trix

 

La Trix, again

 

 

 

 

la Trix, furthermore

[tanman4u]

Definitely not just a regional thing. I've had the same luck in Boston, Chicago, Columbus, New York, and Ft. Lauderdale, over the past couple of months. Now I start out with a blast email to everyone I'm vaguely interested in, then sort through whoever takes the time to reply. That probably starts a vicious circle. The more potential clients like me send out blast emails the more phishing emails the escorts have to deal with.

 

Also a lot of guys say "call only". It's an international call for me so, while I don't mind calling to confirm as soon as I'm on U.S. soil, I'm not able to in advance. There's a lot of notes that say "no blocked calls" and I don't even know what that means or why it matters.

[+ ArVaGuy]

RE: Blocked Call Feature

 

There's a >lot of notes that say "no blocked calls" and I don't even know >what that means or why it matters.

 

 

In the US we have the ability to block our phone numbers being sent to a person we are calling by dialing *67 bfore the number. This prevents the number appearing on the caller ID display. It matters, in part, as a security feature for the escort to weed out flakes from serious prospects and possibly law enforcement.

 

Home numbers can even be set up not to accept blocked or unknown numbers free of charge at customer request. Then the blocked caller has the option of calling back unblocked or going through a security feature that requires them to state their name and reason for calling. The person receiving the call then gets a call from an auto system that then repeats the information and gives the recipient the option of taking or refusing the call.

 

A few years back there was even a feature called *55 (or *54) but the phone companies removed this due to customer complaint. This feature allowed someone receiving a call to dail the *55 and enter a phone number. Then the phone system would give the person the name and location (not address) of the person who called based on phone records.

 

Hope this helps explain the matter for you.

 

 

ArlingtonVaGuy

[Guest 8mile]

>I keep a list of the non-responders and share the names with

>fellow friends who shop. No one in my purchasing circle is

>interested in playing games or doing business with a

>fly-by-night, no matter how hot he might be.

 

Kind of hypocritical no? Escorts shouldn't be allowed to do this but clients definitely can?

 

Zachary

[RockHard]

Since when is the playing field level?

 

Hypocritical? Are you kidding me?

 

Last I looked it's the escorts who place and pay for ads in search of customers, not the other way around.

 

"Escorts shouldn't be allowed to do this but clients definitely can?"

 

I'm not aware of any "rule book" on what escorts "should or should not be allowed to do" but I have no problem with an escort exposing a nut-case customer, especially if the customer's behavior warrants warning other escorts. I sincerely doubt there's much of a "community" camaraderie among escorts, in general, but what escort wouldn't appreciate a "head's up" from another escort, especially if the warnings are justified and handled with reasonable discretion?

 

Personally, I have no problem with escorts, or hairdressers for that matter, exposing asshole customers in public. I'm sure it would make for fun and entertaining reading. However, this is not A+ business decorum and I would caution my favorite escorts (and hairdressers) to consider another method of putting an asshole customer in his place.

[Guest 8mile]

RE: Since when is the playing field level?

 

How about not replying to emails?

[jackhammer91406]

On a trip to Denver last September, I had almost NO success in reaching any advertised escort in that city and I use much the same format as Oliver mentioned, planning early, being specific about dates and desires, and including a fairly str8forward profile of myself. In fairness, I did hear from several long after I had already returned home asking what my travel dates were, but too little, too late. Did pretty well with free hookups off Craig's list.

 

I don't hire much anymore and then usually only during travel, but I find non response to be the norm.

[RockHard]

Not replying to emails

 

"How about not replying to emails?"

 

Well, there's no rule that says an escort must respond to email. Common sense would suggest that if you don't respond, the potential for losing a new customer is real. I wonder how many escorts have common sense?

 

I recently noticed more and more ads specifically stating, "No emails! If you want an appointment, call." This is a much better way to avoid turning a new customer off. At least the escort states his case up front.

 

I'll still bitch and moan about the email dilemma because I absolutely can't use a phone and maintain my privacy. That means there are tons of hot men who will never get to experience a fun and fantastic time with me and find out just how deep my wallet gets because I won't contact any escort who demands "phone only" or one who will not answer my email. Oh well.

[Guest 8mile]

RE: Not replying to emails

 

like I said, it's probably for a reason for an particular escort not returning YOUR emails. what happened to an escort and client relationship when the client stop respecting the escort. sheesh. I'm probably hotter than all you other clients on this board, yet for some reason when I left home I was taught to have respect even the gardener, though I am the one paying it is HE is who actually doing me a favor. Wouldn't be anyone for me to pay if whomever was not providing.

 

I learned at an early age that money isn't worth the paper it's printed on if the person who is holding it is a jerk.

 

SOME of you people need to visit France for a while and realize the freaking customer isn't always right.

 

As Usual, (this time a slightly tipsy)

Zachary

[bbyguy]

>Perhaps this sort of thing varies from region to region...

>personally, I feel that the fair folk of the greater San

>Francisco area are trying to steal NYC's crown title of

>"Rudest City in the US".

>

I am heading to NYC soon and sent emails to some of the

guys here. I would say almost all of them responded. So

it sounds like NYC can longer be in the running for the

title of "Rudest City in the US".

 

Or least the escorts here are not helping NYC retain that title...

[Guest zipperzone]

RE: Not replying to emails

 

>I'm probably hotter than all you other clients

>on this board,

 

You for got to mention "modest" too.

[buckguy]

My hit rate varies alot and I'm not sure how much geography, time of year, etc. figure into it. If I'm really interested, I'll follow-up with a second email. I figure these guys get a lot of junk emails and dead end inquiries, so if a second try or a follow-up phone call don't work, I move on.

 

Yes, it's shitty way to do business, but it's one that cuts down on the flow of email, which may be the point. What's funny is getting an emailbot response from someone who never responded to past emails. That happened when an escort 9nowe out fo business) paid a visit to teh city where I used to live. Clearly, he took the effort to archive the emails to which he didn't respond. If someone expends that much effort, they could have a "form email" that they send when they can't schedule someone.

[+ nycman]

RE: Not replying to emails

 

>You for got to mention "modest" too.

 

LOL.

 

Thanks for saving the rest of us the trouble

of having to point that out...grin

[bbyguy]

RE: Update on responses from New York Escorts

 

I have to say that the situation was very different in NY. Every escort I sent an email to, or left a message for, responded.

 

A couple of them even provided me with an update, where they had initially said they were available and then sent a note back to say there was a change in their schedules and would not be in town at that time.